Originally Posted by EO2K
(Post 1073004)
Agreed. The 99/00 coil pack uses a 4 pin connector where only 3 pins are populated.
I noticed the Ballenger Miata page has the same 3 pin connector listed for 1989 - 2005, but I believe that specific 3 pin connector only fits the 01-05 factory quazi-COPs. I cannot comment on the 89-97 fitment, but I know its wrong for 99/00.
Originally Posted by Leafy
(Post 1073005)
90-97 connectors are the same as 99-00, except 95.5+ only have 3 of the pins populated.
The connectors are all the same family until the NC, so let's just refer to them by the number of ways. IIRC, VVT is a variable too. So, how does this play out? If we can get something settled here, I will put it up and we can have a good reference going forward. 1989 = 3 way? 1990-1997 = 4 way with 4 wires 1998 = 3 way? 1999 - 2000 = 4 way with 3 wires 2001 - 2005 = 3 way 2006+ = new style 3 way |
There is no 98. 95.5-97 are 4 way with 3 wire. I had to double check the 90-93, I think I'm wrong on those. They look to have a female 4 way connector on a small pig tail off the coils that goes to the ignitor.
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Originally Posted by vtjballeng
(Post 1073045)
E02K, that is what we are trying to get corrected here. Thanks for the pics & info.
I've got the entire NB1 (99/00) chassis to engine harness sitting in my garage right now if you guys need pics of anything in particular. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1384368972 3rd time I've posted this image today, I'm really whorin' it up lol |
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Oo, I have a request! Has this one been identified yet?
Using the Ballenger nomenclature this would be "Ignition Subharness Connector" AKA the 4 pin (2x2) Ignition connector that lives next to the 8 pin (4x2) Fuel Injection connector where the engine and chassis harnesses come together at the front of the engine Ignition Subharness Plug (engine side) https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1384391394 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1384391394 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1384391394 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1384391394 Ignition Subharness Receptacle (chassis side, see image in my previous post) https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1384391394 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1384391394 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1384391394 I'd eventually like to roll my own injection/ignition harness from scratch. |
Thats a DL series sumitomo 4 way, the flat one from the DL series that we use for the coils is also a 4 way but referred to as "special A".
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Originally Posted by vtjballeng
(Post 1073045)
1989 = 3 way?
1990-1997 = 4 way with 4 wires 1998 = 3 way? 1999 - 2000 = 4 way with 3 wires 2001 - 2005 = 3 way 2006+ = new style 3 way
Originally Posted by Leafy
(Post 1073048)
There is no 98. 95.5-97 are 4 way with 3 wire. I had to double check the 90-93, I think I'm wrong on those. They look to have a female 4 way connector on a small pig tail off the coils that goes to the ignitor.
89-95 =? 95.5 - 97 = 4 way with 3 wires 98 = not sold in the us? |
Originally Posted by EO2K
(Post 1073116)
Oo, I have a request! Has this one been identified yet?
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Originally Posted by vtjballeng
(Post 1073256)
So, the 99 - current chart is good. What do we do with the 89-98 data? Just trying to fill out the application chart.
89-95 =? 95.5 - 97 = 4 way with 3 wires 98 = not sold in the us? |
Originally Posted by vtjballeng
(Post 1073259)
Leafy got it. We are bringing that one in. Will probably bring in the 8 way ignitor plug too while at it. We are slowly getting there for a full harness.
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Originally Posted by vtjballeng
(Post 1073256)
98 = not sold in the us?
Mr Ballenger, I'd be happy to loan you this harness for a while if it will help the cause, both the chassis and engine harnesses. |
Originally Posted by EO2K
(Post 1073333)
Correct. There is no 1998 Miata in the US
Mr Ballenger, I'd be happy to loan you this harness for a while if it will help the cause, both the chassis and engine harnesses. |
Originally Posted by vtjballeng
(Post 1073973)
Thanks for the offer. We might get to that point but I am just adding the parts we can bit by bit over time as adding these parts is just something I am adding in my free time. Interestingly, the data from the google spreadsheet doesn't match up well with some of the information in the thread. I will try to update it when I get a chance.
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Now this isnt a miata part. Does anyone have a suggestion for a truely safe 10 or 12 gauge 2 way or 1 way bulk head fitting for fuel tanks. I want to run high gauge wire directly to my new pump because the tiny 18ga that comes stock on the car gets scary hot running the wally 400e85. Right now I'm finding some ghetto looking insulated and mostly sealed terminal lugs. Or actual fuel tank rated bulk heads but they only go up to 14 amps per pin. Or also wire pass throughs that are sealed, which are just asking for death since the fuel is just going to wick up the wire braid and eventually start dripping out right next to the relay.
After looking up the current draw on the wally 400E85, its only going to see over 14 amps when I run ALLOFIT. So I guess this is the best option for not killing myself. I'll just run double wires to each connection. http://www.racetronix.biz/itemdesc.a...WS-001&eq=&Tp= |
Seems I still need to update all that coil data. Added NC MAF Connector here:
Ballenger Motorsports - High Performance Electronics |
That looks the NC DBW throttle body connector, not the MAF connector. The MAF connector has 5 pins, not 6.
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Originally Posted by Reverant
(Post 1091712)
That looks the NC DBW throttle body connector, not the MAF connector. The MAF connector has 5 pins, not 6.
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Still no love on the Ignition Subharness Connector? I grabbed one from the guys at Fab9 but it would be nice to have them in one spot.
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Not sure why they dont have it, the 95.5+ miatas use the sumitomo DL normal 4 position (female on the coil side). And the 94-95.5 use the sumitomo DL 6 position with one blanking plug because it uses 5 pins.
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We are getting both in (4 way and 6 way dl), it just takes time for production and shipping from Japan. The Miata stuff we just put out to help enthusiasts and typically isn't a positive earner so I end up adding the items and fixing the listings when I can find time. Hopefully it helps people out and I genuinely appreciate all the effort in this thread both as an enthusiast/racer myself and for the purpose of making the parts available for others.
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Just to verify, you guys have connectors for the common e85 sensors I see in junk yards?
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