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Old 07-29-2018, 09:22 AM
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At mid ohio watching the mx5 cup cars today Trans cooler lines
Diff cooler and lines
and talking to some of the crew guys, they all run trans and dif coolers on them and still have trans faliures with the updated transmissions, yhey say that you never know if you are getting a lemmon or a good one...
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Matches the Twins with 400 less lbs.
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Matches? How bout at 3500 rpm ? Smokes the twins, with 400 lbs less.
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Those results are nuts, curious where the SCCA is going to class the ND2.
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As if I didn't want an ND enough as is. That's awesome
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Those results are nuts, curious where the SCCA is going to class the ND2.
Seems too fast for CS but too slow for BS. Unless the wheels are wider maybe it'll be ok in BS against the s2ks and slower vettes. Would probably get slaughtered at pros though.
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Curious if there's a transmission update to go along with the extra power.
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Curious if there's a transmission update to go along with the extra power.
Million dollar question. My guess is no. A well known local STR driver has reportedly broken a gen 4 box.

Meanwhile, our local dealer has a 2019 RF in stock.
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Originally Posted by emilio700
Million dollar question. My guess is no. A well known local STR driver has reportedly broken a gen 4 box.

Meanwhile, our local dealer has a 2019 RF in stock.
Someone should go test drive it and bust the "driving impressions" media embargo.

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Originally Posted by codrus
Someone should go test drive it and bust the "driving impressions" media embargo.

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By all accounts, little has changed outside of the power increase. It now has roughly the power of a reflashed, exhaust & header equipped ND1. I know what that "feels" like. For those that haven't driven a tuned ND1, use your imagination a bit. The rest is about the same.
I'm assuming the ND2 will respond to tuning about the same as the ND1 so perhaps 185whp on 91. That would be fun.
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Originally Posted by emilio700
By all accounts, little has changed outside of the power increase. It now has roughly the power of a reflashed, exhaust & header equipped ND1. I know what that "feels" like. For those that haven't driven a tuned ND1, use your imagination a bit. The rest is about the same.
I'm assuming the ND2 will respond to tuning about the same as the ND1 so perhaps 185whp on 91. That would be fun.
Maybe 195-200whp with exhaust and E85? That would really be tasty.
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Originally Posted by z31maniac
Maybe 195-200whp with exhaust and E85? That would really be tasty.
At least on our ND1, we didn't see any gains with E85. I think that's the EcuTek software though. Even after attemping to over write the EcuTek install, we never made more than 159whp no matter what we tried.
Seems like others have found the extra power one might expect from corn. In any case, our ND2 won't be flexfuel or mapped for E85. It'll just run on 91 pump.
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Interesting, thanks for the info. Really weird no extra power was found.

But from what I understand, the freer flowing the intake/exhaust, the less of a difference E85 makes vs pump.
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Beaker price dropped to $23,500.
New Gen 4 trans just installed by dealer.

Details in FS: post a page or so back.
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Seems like a prime opportunity for a proven small-market innovator to bring a baller ND sequential transmission solution to market!

Wait, what, you want to sell enough to make money and stay in business while doing so? Pffft
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Originally Posted by Mobius
Seems like a prime opportunity for a proven small-market innovator to bring a baller ND sequential transmission solution to market!

Wait, what, you want to sell enough to make money and stay in business while doing so? Pffft
Do you want a $55,000 ND?
Cause that’s how you get a $55,000 ND.

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Originally Posted by doward


Do you want a $55,000 ND?
Cause that’s how you get a $55,000 ND.

Isn't that what the cup car costs?
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Originally Posted by x_25
Isn't that what the cup car costs?
Yup, and they still break transmissions too. That's with the $2500 EMCO 3-4 gearset conversion.
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I'm gonna be honest. I drove an ND for a bit last week. It was fine. Felt shockingly strong down low.


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I like the NC better. Come at me bros.
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