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Old Dec 11, 2017 | 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by borka
well that rules out me ever buying an ND.

no way im sinking $6K+ into a gear box.

bummer, i like the new design and was going to buy it once they were older and sub $10k

what was Mazda thinking?? dont they see how many people boost their older gen miatas ?!?
Seems like an opportunity for an aftermarket company to come up with a stronger transmission option similar to the new BMW setup for the early cars.
Old Dec 11, 2017 | 01:12 PM
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Originally Posted by borka
what about thinking of every one that is going to buy them brand spanking new, and then autox or track them, and break gears with their brand new car.
Or boost their brand new car??
Its a perforance car, Mazda knows owners will be autox and tracking it. so why not make a decent gearbox?

Why is the NA, NB, NC gear box while not being bulletproof can at least hold down about 250hp and ND blows up at 150?

what applies to used car resales, has the same issues brand new.

I do think by the time i will be in the market for one, there will be plenty of kits to adapt a different gear box into the ND. just like we now have a BMW gearbox kit.
Easy. Weight. Everyone bitched about how the NC's gained weight over the NA/NB's. To get their weights down, components had to become smaller. Mazda has no plans of putting larger engine in the MX-5 from the articles I've read, so make the gear box survive the highest output motor. If i recall correctly, the 5 speeds were designed for the light truck and the 6 speed was developed for multiple platforms using heavier chassis. Sadly, they did miss the mark with the issues being seen, but they are a small car company and might not have the resources to put behind products like Toyota, Ford, GM, ect. I've seen items pass prototype and 1st production article testing only to fail once mass production was running full tilt. I can only assume that Mazda knows this market and knows that the aftermarket will pick up where they left off. Mazda created the lightweight roadster everyone wanted, but had to make sacrifices to do so.
Old Dec 11, 2017 | 07:34 PM
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While I get what most people mean, I don't think 4k USD is bad for a complete gear set that is rated at 800Nm.
Old Dec 11, 2017 | 07:39 PM
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$6k is doable but still a bummer that this needs to be fixed before you can do any power adders.
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Old Dec 11, 2017 | 09:24 PM
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Originally Posted by emilio700
$6k is doable but still a bummer that this needs to be fixed before you can do any power adders.
True fact but sometimes it is part of the game. I have a friend who has a reputable FRS/BRZ shop, they have gone over 6 transmission units in their FI'ed demo car. The ugly reality of new platforms. Junky transmission, plastic clutch master cylinders and other shenanigans.
Old Dec 12, 2017 | 01:46 PM
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Yeah, 6k sucks, but it is what it is. Mazda isn't going to design ANOTHER entirely new transmission for the ND, just so people can turbo them reliably. So, coming off my previous post, if gears 1-5 are replaced, does that mean that going into 6th under power and on track is a no-no? 6th is the 1:1 gear, so does that make it stronger or weaker than usual? Is there any difference at all?

With the way the gearing is on an ND, you can cruise around town in 6th at 35-40 mph, so a straight-cut 1-5 wouldn't be that big of a deal at all.

Honestly, I plan on staying N/A for a long time, because I have spent entirely too much on my car already. My ND will eventually become a race car, once I am in the position to buy another bigger and more comfortable DD. If the transmission problem really never is fixed, I would much rather just swap in a LFX/LGX. 6k towards that will make it a lot faster than a Skyactiv powered ND anyways lol
Old Dec 23, 2017 | 09:04 PM
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Well, I found a great deal on an 8500mile '17 124 Spider Classica and jumped on it. I got it for less than what I owe on my ND. I have been paying on my ND since August 2016 lol. I will go pick it up next week. It is silver and has the technology package and no other options. I will remove the rollbar and LSD from the ND and transfer it to the 124. I will take the brakes off the ND and sell them because I do not like them at all. I will be searching for another brake solution that absolutely does not involve those stupid Wilwood calipers with the "slightly" less effective e-brake out back. Eurocompulsion is now showing legitimate dyno numbers for the 124. Their intercooler, intake, and tune package is making an additional 65 whp and 53 wtq peak. The stock engine dies after 5500, but the reflash totally changes that. It now redlines at 6800. At roughly 6300 rpm, it is making over 100whp more than the stock stuff. This is without touching the exhaust side at all, which obviously is an easy source of spool and power for a turbo car.

I am sort of getting with the name of this site now. I am getting rid of a miata, but gaining a turbo. Does that make me cooler?

So, if you are interested in a 20k mile 2016 Sport ND, get in touch.
Old Dec 31, 2017 | 04:50 PM
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i swear you are the most indecisive person on this forum. Probably even worse than Buddy... Maybe.

Congrats on the new car, hopefully the mods wake up that awful lump up front. Unfortunately nothing you can do about the styling.
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Old Dec 31, 2017 | 06:18 PM
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Originally Posted by turbofan
i swear you are the most indecisive person on this forum. Probably even worse than Buddy... Maybe.

Congrats on the new car, hopefully the mods wake up that awful lump up front. Unfortunately nothing you can do about the styling.
I can be pretty indecisive when it comes to what u want to do with cars. In a single day I've gone from wanting to build a W2W NA, to a turbo NC street car, to getting a used Boss 302 track car and S550 daily driver. All with spreadsheet calculating the pros/cons, estimated costs, and power goals. I tell my wife its a good thing we don't have money and I don't like buying things in credit.
Old Dec 31, 2017 | 07:30 PM
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I hear you. If I had big money, I think I’d be dangerous.
Old Dec 31, 2017 | 08:27 PM
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Originally Posted by turbofan
i swear you are the most indecisive person on this forum. Probably even worse than Buddy... Maybe.
Have you ever talked to Rish?
Old Jan 1, 2018 | 03:27 AM
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Originally Posted by turbofan
i swear you are the most indecisive person on this forum. Probably even worse than Buddy... Maybe.

Congrats on the new car, hopefully the mods wake up that awful lump up front. Unfortunately nothing you can do about the styling.
You keep on using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

In the time Buddy has been contemplating something other than his BRZ, I have bought and sold at least 3 cars. That is actively making decisions and going after them. If I was indecisive... I wouldn't have made any decision on a purchase.

In all seriousness, I can't see the styling when I am driving the car, it is quieter overall than my ND (on the same tires, so apples to apples), it traps over 10 mph faster on my test road than my ND stock to stock, and the legitimate dyno numbers out for the 124 now match what 6k FI kits for the ND are putting out. The transmission isn't as butter smooth at the ND's, but it also isn't made out of butter. Fair trade.

I got this thing for less than what I owe on the ND. I did myself a monetary favor and the 124 fixes the problems I had with the ND. It works for me.
Old Jan 1, 2018 | 03:50 AM
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Ah, so indecisive AND impulsive

I'm really just busting your *****. Anyone that knows me, knows that I am in the same boat.
Old Jan 1, 2018 | 12:33 PM
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Yeah, I think decisive AND impulsive is the proper description. Still . . . it's entertainment.

Meanwhile, 250K (~70K boosted -- on a Greddy manifold!) is coming up soon! Standby for pictures.
Old Jan 1, 2018 | 02:56 PM
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My little lump seems to be doing just fine.
I'm not saying it's the best engine around or anything, but it doesn't seem to entirely suck though.
It's also one of the best sounding 4 cylinders around in my opinion.
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How you managed to drive a 500 that far is beyond me. I drove one from San Diego to Ventura and... Didn't want to do that again.
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Impressive mileage. Make sure you get a proper picture of 200K!

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I completely agree with being impulsive! I should have it making 200+ whp and 230+ wtq within two months. The XIDA ACE's are going on it, an AP Racing big brake kit, and some 6UL's with some new tires. This car is going to be awesome.
Old Jan 2, 2018 | 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Chilicharger665
You keep on using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

In the time Buddy has been contemplating something other than his BRZ, I have bought and sold at least 3 cars. That is actively making decisions and going after them. If I was indecisive... I wouldn't have made any decision on a purchase.
Yes, but before the BRZ, it was something like 10-11 cars in 5-6 years. At one point with two miatas and a V8 4Runner, also at one point has an S52 swapped E30 as a toy and a 318is E30 as the DD. If my girlfriend wasn't finishing school and made better money......it would be a much different story.
Old Jan 2, 2018 | 10:39 AM
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Sorry if this was covered but does the 124 suffer from the same transmission problems?
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