I too was wondering at least a couple times now: "so did they finally figure out a fueling solution to the hp limit or is this just to say we didddd ittttt"?
Seems like an awesome waste of money and time if they can't fuel it. At least throw some aux injectors at it or something??

 

Probably a "we did it" I haven't see any complaints on the lack of low end grunt from the BBR kits.

 

From the comments, it seemed like a purely "we did it" thing.

 

The whole fueling issue is split between tuners who claim the ceiling has already been hit and the other half claiming the others don't know what they are doing...

 

 

Who is claiming the others don't know what they are doing? It's not the same people that were claiming a header and 91 were making an additional 40hp was it? HAHAHA

 

lol

 

https://www.roadandtrack.com/new-car...ower-for-2019/

I wonder if they finally fixed the transmission and decided to tune the engine to match.

 

The source document shown in that R&T article has been removed. Read into that what you will.

Maybe they decided to put the NC transmission in, that's what they did for the 124 version (I understand, or maybe it is a derivative?).

 

Not possible.

 

I am now not underwater on the ND and I also picked up a 124. I really like the 124 as a DD and I don't want to put a rollbar in it or compromise street comfort.

However, the initial idea was to get rid of the ND, transfer my roll bar, diff, and other parts to the 124, then sell the ND. Now I want to keep both, but now there is news of a much better 2.0 in the ND2....

I wish I would've waited in the first place ugh.

 

There is always going to be something better, newer, nicer, etc. for just a little more, or next year or....

Stop chasing unicorns and enjoy what you've got.

 

Sound advice

 

 

155 to 181 hp does sound too good to be true. Perhaps they meant to type 161. But a 2019 with 181 hp, red top, and recaros ...we can dream can't we?

 

unless you have a 1.6L -- then go 1.8L.

 

Who knows, maybe Mazda got their hands on an MS3...

 

That's funny. The MS3 Pro to the stock ND ECU is what a Ford Pinto is to a GT3 cup car.

 

Exactly.

 

I would normally agree with this. But in the case of the Mazda Miata, there is a clear and repeatable pattern of a vastly improved model coming out 3-4 years after an initial offering. NA (1990 vs. 1994) and NC (2006 vs. 2009). Ignoring the NB because it was mostly an NA derivative rather than a new car. I've held off on an ND for this very reason and am hopeful that the 2019 major refresh will address real weaknesses like those earlier refreshes. I would expect weight to go up though.

Or, to put it another way, give Mazda a chance to work out the bugs on new models.