If that screen has a laptimer app and can record video . . . win!

It doesn't bother me at all. People festoon their car interiors with GPS units, radar detectors, A-pillar pods, etc...one integrated screen that sits in the center is fine. And it lets the rest of the dashboard stay quite low.

based on limited experiences with rental cars - that screen does not detract whatsoever - it is completely fixed, there for the breaking. This seems to be a new annoying trend in car manufacturing.

Duct tape.

I hate all of the crap mandated by the effing government to make cars heavier and more expensive.

The volvo/Mercedes versions of that retract, but a lot of them fail, so it could be a good thing it doesn't retract.

I'm running 245/35-17's on my Catfish, and there really aren't that many options for tires. With the ND, I think this will open up big time and Toyo (et al) will add some new sizes. BTW, 245/35-17 is a 23.7" tire that's 9.6" wide.

I've seen and talked to people who think that even a 225 series tire is too much for this weight vehicle. Not true. When the rubber heats up, there's a whole new world of grip out there...

My :2cents:, the ND has the potential to be head and shoulders the best of the bunch. This is not a knock on any other generation, but I think that this is a car that may leave a bigger mark on history than the original.

If they release a FRC it will be nice, but it will never leave a bigger mark then the NA did. The current market is not as empty as it was and only one can be first.

My hope is that I can keep my NBs alive until it's time to make a racer out of a ND. Never liked the NC high sideline soapbox look.
If there still is a big block engine available from a simple swap (not a unique bolt pattern etc) this will still be reasonable. The times for a simple bandaids turbo kit is long gone though.

Best how? You seem focused on performance here, but that's never been why the Miata sold so well.

"Whining about the screen"

Audi
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Mercedes
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BMW
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All the big boys are doing it so Mazda has just gotten with the times by not releasing an interior that looks dated 3 minutes after you leave the dealer...
I think it looks great, performance will be a bit on the weak side so I doubt I will buy one until there are some proper aftermarket power bolt ons available. Hopefully this surfaces faster than what they did for the NC generation... 200whp ND daily would be lovely.

I doubt that. It maybe the best car so far, but leaving a mark on history requires doing something new and sensationalist. its doubtful the new miata can make that big of an impact on its own market.

Market leaders tend not to innovate much. Plus, there is nothing new about the formula to "wow!" everyone. Now if mazda brings GT-R (similar how the GTR brought supercar performance for 90k when it first came out) like performance for $30 grand, you might find that having a big impact...

Performance ideas aside, this is a great car. How many other manufacturers actually listened and brought weight down 4 generations later into a car's life? I think its spectatcular that Mazda has put most of its effort in weight savings and a decent looking car.

My problem is not with the screens, it's with the software that drives them.

It will be shitty.


Very very shitty.

I think that hinges on what engine/power we actually end up with.

If we end up with a 1.5 with 155hp? No thanks.

A 2.0 with 180-200hp? Win!

It's going to be closer to 160-165hp out of a 2.0L. The 1.5L is the overseas motor that is sold due to taxation based on emissions and engine displacement. The 1.5L in the new Mazda2 is going to make around 115hp if I'm remembering correctly; it's the same deal with being able to buy a 1.6L in an NB or a 1.8L in the NC.

Jizz, everywhere.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1409929036

Jizz.
http://kylini.com/ul/purple.jpg


More jizz.
http://kylini.com/ul/rainbow.jpg


Stance will make her dance.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1409929304


Fuck the shooting brake, i want a fastback.
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1409929304


Hawt.
https://farm6.staticflickr.com/5591/...55d4ac7b_h.jpg

Apparently linux-based, and if not exactly open-source, then at least very crackable, according to so-and-so over at m.net.

Things you can do on miata.net: Call something autistic looking and say it has that autistic puffy-eyed look

Things you cannot do on miata.net: Say "that's a fucked up thing to say"

LOL.


Link?


NVM found it.

I read a quote from one of the Mazda execs that "less HP won't work in America, they won't allow it."

Essentially saying the American market buyers won't allow for a new model that has less HP.

Have you used the software that runs that screen in the 3? It's pretty fantastic.

I don't want to sound like a M.net blowhard, but as a professional software tester my definition of 'fantastic' software is probably different from most. Admittedly I haven't used the one in the 3, but every other one I've ever used has been purely and utterly shit. Mostly it's an input problem, there's no good way to get user input in a car, and that's not something that is fixable by software unfortunately.

But even still, can I write a plugin for the screen in the 3 to display something different? Or download/purchase one? Can it display any of the million sensor readings the ECU has access to besides some factory default ones? These are not difficult things to do, but it takes development time, and development time is money, money that your average customer is not willing to pay.

Plus, the simple fact is even if it's literally a complete revolution in computing today, by the time the warranty runs out it will be horribly outdated. That's an inescapable fact for any built-in computer in a car. In that sense maybe a somewhat-removable tablet-like thing is the way to go.

Price! What have they said about MSRP?

All I have found is an article from the UK stating 20k, but in Pounds. That translates to well over $32k. I assume the US will be cheaper, but realistically, how much?

Frankly, if it's north of 25 grand by much, I'll buy a used Porsche or Z4 and call it a day.

Because it's the same unit in the 3, you'll be able to get it without the crazy touch screen stuff, i would imagine.

Touch screen might be preferable to the 'wheel' thing behind the shifter...

I've got the wheel thing in the 5 series. It's only a PITA to use for about the first 4 or 5 days - after that, it actually starts to make sense.

Unless if it's in a neat little chart on Mazda JP's website, the HP is at 160.

I don't know why setting reasonable expectations is such a difficult thing to understand. Yeah it's good to hope for the best and set lofty goals, but by managing your expectations, you get to be pleasantly surprised when reality exceeds them. It also cuts down on a lot of IM NOT GONNA BUY IT UNLESS IF IT HAS 200 HORSEPOWAH bullshit because saying shit like that is just concern trolling and you were never in the market to begin with.

I don't know why quoting a magazine article means I'm not setting realistic expectations. And my bad, it was just the magazine "source" not an exec, so that could be completely made up.

New Mazda MX-5 revealed | Autocar

"Both are reworked versions of engines already powering the company’s hatchbacks and are likely to offer around 140bhp and 180bhp respectively. This represents a small power advantage over current models – our source admitted that the "US market wouldn’t accept less power" – but with the weight savings they promises superior power-to-weight ratios, extra performance and considerable fuel economy and CO2 advantages. "

I wonder how soon i can go to the dealer and put a down payment down. Obviously no time soon. Maybe when they release more details and options.

I saw people driving around 2015 mustangs super super (snow still on the ground) early in the year so i know you can get vehicles soon.

You gonna get one, Erat? Actually, who is the first on mt.net to buy one? Maybe the dude that sold his 5.0 to get a NC? (sorry man forgot your name/handle). Who has money and wants this?

I'm throwing around the idea of selling my NB and buying one... Not very seriously though.

I'm currently within a single phone call from buying a bran new vehicle.

My dad told me he would give me his old 96 pickup for a winter beater after i told him i wanted a new miata.

So yeah. It's extremely likely that i hold out a little longer to buy one of these as a daily(minus snow of course).

Mazda has already signed on board with Android Auto (Android Auto). Letting whatever operating system drives the phone that is currently plugged in also drive the car's applications... that's brilliant IMO. You can't get much more open than that I think. If the ND doesn't have this initially, it should be along very shortly after.

Saves me a bolt-in tablet mount.

Coming from a guy who refuses to buy new cars on principle, this is a car that I would strongly consider buying off of a lease.

I normally hate having touch screens and extra computer shit in cars but that sounds awesome.

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18psi's elbow :giggle:

Sorry I missed the nose on the profile shot, I was just kinda pointing and shooting with the phone. I think Gesso may have some far better pics than I do.

I like that car a lot.

Thanks for the pics! How did it sound?

Damn! It's definitely back to na/nb size. Looks great.

Keep posting pics, I'm living bicuriously through you guys.

That's the funniest thing I've read in a long time. Of course, given the membership here, perhaps it's apropos.

I wish I knew. :sad2: The cockgobbler in the RX8 chase car kept revving his shit like we cared what his rotardery sounded like. Someone else may have had a better luck than I

Revved it right in front of where I was waiting. Sounded normal, no 'whoosh' ;)

Whatever it sounds like now, Enthuza will make it sound better

DAT SEXY ELBOW DOE :laugh:

I'm convinced he was doing it on purpose, to hide the sound of the ND.

It sounded........normal......nothing special at all. of course I got all of 3 seconds to listen to it til the rotard started waking the dead.




Also I made a point to say REALLY loudly "This car looks GOOD. Really GOOD. Any MNET idiot that thinks its ugly is a giant RETARD.

I kept repeating it loudly just to see the m.net feggets flinch and really hoping some of them would say something

:giggle:

I think this car is smashing.

I like the NA.
The NB2 "does it" for me.
The NC was meh. Happy face ftml.
This car "does it" for me again.

I'm still too much of a cheap bastard to buy one new though.

I'm really thinking about it.

I've been driving Miatas for 12 years now. I have 2. I enjoy the heck out of them. I mod, I flog, I put the top down, I smile . . . .

I've had other Ford re-badged Mazdas over the years and they've always been great cars.

I really feel like I should support Mazda on this one. It looks like they did a lot right . . . again.

When does the club sport come out?

Vlad thank you for the funnies all day long, had me cracking up dude!.

Ed, Dan, and I were too interested in the finally short line for food to see it up close.

I was actually kinda surprised to hear that so may people were interested in one. I lost count of how many people I overheard ask this same question.

So will it be be able to fit 275/40/17s under those fenders? I could really use the grip.

I'm waiting on the engine specs, but if it's 13:1 on the pistons the only boost options are e85 or aftermarket pistons for pump gas, no?

You can get away with higher than standard compression ratios on a turbo car with erect injection.

I thought erect injection was only for the owners?

:party:

haha

:party:

It looks awesome, but the reveal was terrible. Can't wait to see it in person

Thanks for the pics EO2K. It looks great out in the sun, even the rear which is the only part I'm not all about.

oh SNAPPPP

well now we know for sure what it sounds like :)

props

As i would be buying the car for a daily / commuter i wouldn't mind seeing 40mpg.

This. I want 40mpg and to loltocross in CS.