Is it sad my favorite things on the ND chassis is the oil filter location and the oil pan not requiring the engine be removed to take it off and tap it? Im also in love with the suspension linkage and the motor mounts not being angled anymore so the the engine rest evenly on top

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I hear Mazda unveils the ND on the 3rd.

Of September. At Mazda presents Mazdaspeed Laguna Seca Mazda Speedway.

Given the choice, which would you prefer?
Price point is whatever the MSRP is on the Mazda.

New Miata ND
Used Porsche Boxster S
Other (specify)

New Miata ND with the following assumptions: 165hp, 155ft-lbs, 2350lbs, 35+ mpg.

Why? Car has a warranty, getting 0% financing through Mazda is easy, and the Mazda2 I've been DDing is way too practical (and not RWD). I want another Miata that I can DD and do autocross in that has modern safety and amenities. Also, I want to see what it's like to have a convertible despite owning a Miata for the past 7+ years (yay hardtops).

The S2000 is obviously appealing and I think it's a great car, but I think that the speed necessary to have fun with it is too high for the street. I'm an old person. I'd rather throw a slow, soft Miata through a corner at 45mph versus getting the same satisfaction out of doing it with an S2000 at 70mph. Safety first.

ND

The only Porsche I'm interested in is the new Cayman S. And I don't make the kind of scratch to justify a $70k car in my garage or it would already be there.

I'm starting to get the itch again for something properly fast. I miss the '13 GT even though you couldn't really use it all on the street, nor do I like what it cost to run.

That said, I'm kind of yearning for a boost buggy, but the same problems apply.

I think a good engine for the future Miata would be the Skyactive engine in the Mazda 3, 185 hp and 184 ft-lbs of torque at the crankshaft. It's ECU, intake and exhaust systems could even be optimized to increase power to 200 horses or more.

aw. my bad.

I'll be sure to forward along those notes to Mazda HQ.

Nothing more gross than a German Mr2

May I ask why you think that?

Quick note on this: you only get 0% through Mazda if they are offering it as an incentive on the particular model you're purchasing, and in every case I've seen with Mazda, you're giving up at very minimum $1000 in rebates to do so.

Carry on.

Just throwing out some numbers... assumptions:

Price: $26000
Rebate: $1000
APR: 2.99%
Term: 5 years

If you take the $1000 rebate, after 5 years you wind up paying $26950 for the car and monthly payments will be around $450.

If you take 0% APR for 5 years, you pay $26000 for the car, and your monthly payment is $15 cheaper at $435.

The break-even for rebate vs 0% APR is closer to $2000, and I don't think I've seen Mazda do that. It's going to be a new car, so who knows if dealerships are going to tag on a premium like they did with the Toyobaru. Best bet might actually be to print off an S-Plan coupon from Mazdaspeed and get 0% through the Mazda's financing.

...and then you add inflation rate and the math gets even more fun!

$1000 today != $1000 in 5 years

Dunning Kruger affects post regarding interest...

^truth. However, I never keep my cars that long, so for me, I'd take the money and run since I know I won't just make the minimum payment for the term of the loan :D

Inflation helps the borrower in a repayment on a loan...? I don't think you know how inflation works, unless if it was a "rah-rah, put cash under your mattress Ron Paul 2008" post.

A car loan is a fixed rate financial instrument and 0% APR is quite literally free money (as long as you don't default).

I believe "time value of money" was the intended argument, not "inflation"

So I guess now this is a thread about financing a car? :facepalm:

Do you have any more information about the ND? No?

The topic will come back around when there is more info.

asmasm photochopped a render that popped up today from a no-post account on m.net:

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If thats what it looks like Im gonna need to start whoring myself out again to get one

Needs more 15x10 with 245s :)

Comes stock with 6UL? Now we know why Emilio has been making so many improvements in the design as of late.

NM - I see that the chop in question was a chop of a render and he/she added the 6ULs... looks great though.

I really dig this design. Reminds me a lot of the catfish up front with Alfa in the rear. May start saving for one

lol @ reflection of the OEM rear wheel in the pic, looks like a 5UL...

Also, reflection of the OEM wheel in the pic is a 5-lug.

Get rid of that grille and the weird red and it could look good

3ish hours.

I'm just blown away at how much they've been able to keep secret. I presume we'll hear the specs tonight too, available engines and stuff, but so far nothing solid has leaked. We don't even know if it's turbocharged or not.

The reason they have managed to keep it secret is because the project has been scrapped... :D

3 minutes till showtime

10...9...8

lol, the comments on youtube are great.

This is the gayest pre-presentation music ever. Good work Mazda, sounds like fireman should be pole dancing in the dark.

disabled comments. literally nothing but spampost rtards

This is riveting. The music... So suspenseful.

they changed it LITERALLY as you posted

:laugh:


OK FESS UP: WHICH ONE OF US IS MAZDA?
now it sounds kinda like porn music LOL

Also: only 13,000 people watching? Ruhroh.

track 2 is easy listening. reminds me of jeff's mom.

The actual reveal is still 25 mins or so away. I bet that number at least doubles before then.

I was expecting some interviews or something. I'm going to back to changing the oil in the car.

it's at 6pm pacific time. why would people tune in 30 minutes early?

for the amazing pr0n music of course

'cause my body is ready.

I hope they figure out the mics before 6

Yeah def came for the pron music and was not dissapoint. The east coast intelligentsia in the youtube comments are like VIDEO START WHY NO SEE CAR as they fail to realize what time it is :jerkit:

SRSLY, who uses pacific time anymore? Pacific time is a relic of when every American household didnt' have a DVR. It's like trying to be an engineer and using inches.

Watching at work with high hopes. Pron music is definite plus.

If Thursday/Sunday/Monday Night Football started at 6:00 pm here, We'd be more productive too

It's happening!!!! HHHRRRNRGGGRGR!!!

Did anyone else lose video

looks fan fucking tastic.

4 lug wheels

love the blacked out windshield a-frame

5 minutes of looking at the car, and we still haven't seen the front?

I love it.

Extremely disappointed they played this stupid band.

ugh. Might as well just go to bed and wake up to the details and pictures that matter.

How about some video of the CAR and not this band.

brb driving there to kill the video guy and the stupid band

seriously. is this a car unveiling or a video of some stupid faggy band?

Some one leak some damn nudes already. Swooping lines this, bulging fenders that. Take it off already!