At the end of the video (around 6:15) they talk about the ND. How its in partnership with Alfa Romeo and lighter than the NC. Sub 2000lbs? That would be something for a new car.

Poor Jay Leno with his style bar.

Considering he drives it maybe once a year, I'm going to let that slide.

IIRC that Miata was his brothers, or something, and he left it exactly as he received it when he past.

I am eagerly awaiting the arrival of the ND model.

I was very disappointed when I heard mazda was shelving the rotary. I didnt consider the beneficial repercussions it would have for the miata, so that takes the sting out a bit. I hope the ND will impress more than the NC disappointed.

More chassis pics

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Just noticed the front end links are adjustable. I assume that means that Mazda wants to hold a closer tolerance for cross weights and plans to use the adjustable links to fine tune on the assembly line. Cool.

Some chatter on mnet is saying that it might have been just to get a swaybar on the chassis and it was what was laying around. A few keen eyes have also said that the chassis is significantly different from the one that was on display in NY.

My only notes is that solid rear discs (again), engine completely behind the electric steering rack, and adjustable front endlinks and fixed endlinks in the rear. Also no pictures of the intake side. :/

Adjustable end links cost too much on a mass market vehicle.

Fourth-Generation Miata to Debut via Simultaneous Global Events on Three Continents
 

IRVINE, Calif., July 3, 2014 -- This fall, 25 years of storied MX-5 Miata history will turn the page to unveil the beginning of its fourth chapter as the next-generation roadster will be rumor no more during simultaneous global events in Japan, Spain and the United States. Officially confirmed as a 2016 model, the all-new MX-5 coyly made an initial debut at this year's New York International Auto Show in the form of an exposed SKYACTIV-CHASSIS. MX-5 historians eagerly scribbled notes, snapped photos and speculated on what the final product would be. On September 3, 2014 speculation will shift into revelation during an exclusive event to be held in Monterey, Calif.

"We're excited to make this official, to announce that the newest member of the MX-5 Miata family will be arriving soon," said Jim O'Sullivan, president and CEO, Mazda North American Operations (MNAO). "Along with our colleagues around the world, we continue to celebrate the MX-5's 25th anniversary and look forward to sharing even more news in the near future."

In addition to the global unveil of the 2016 MX-5 Miata, MNAO has partnered with the enthusiast-operated event eponymously known as Miatas at Mazda Raceway, which will be held on September 5-7. The next-generation roadster will be on display along with an array of heritage, concept and motorsports MX-5s. MNAO also will lead consumer discussion sessions covering history, motorsports, R&D and design as well as coordinate one of the largest gatherings of MX-5 Miatas in North America. Registration for the annual event is free and open to the public. For more information, visit Miatas at Mazda Raceway Laguna Seca.

MARK BOOTH WAS RIGHT

Can't wait to finally see this thing for real, and know what rumors are true or false.

It gets better. Listen

I'm going to remain on the skeptical side and say who knows what engine they dubbed in there. It could be leftover footage from the MS3. I want to believe and everything, but the chassis showing didn't have anything like it.

Gonna stick with my man, Mark Booth, and say 2200lbs and 160hp out of the SkyActiv 2.0L. If it returns high 30s MPG, I'll be ecstatic.

No need to dub anything: Step Inside The Ugliest Little 2016 Mazda Miata Mule In The World

That doesn't mean it's going in a Miata though.

And word on pricing?

I chose to believe Mark Booth was hired to do social media control. He brings things back on topic and dispels the really dumb shit rumors (things like fwd or there being no ND at all). Maybe they have him posting some disinformation to lower expectation before launch?

200 hp turbo car please.

I am also hoping the factory tire diameter ends up being close to the NA/NB so we can all keep enjoying cheap wheels and tires.

FTFY

Why not wish for a 300whp 2000lb Miata with 7spd sequential and active aero?

Shame?

Let's not get greedy, haha.

I'm hearing Mazda has stated that they had not met their weight target. Just under 2400#. If its to match the lbs/hp of the NC, itll need a minimum of 170hp I think. So I'm hoping for 170-180hp from the 1.5L skyactiv-g turbo. I think thats feasible, if not entirely likely.

As a DD I think I'd be OK with that if I could turn up the boost and retune for a couple hundred bucks and get ~220whp.

My impression of the Skyactiv technology is that the engines aren't overbuilt like our old Bs. Hopefully I'm wrong.

I thought Mazda's philosophy with the Skyactiv stuff was naturally aspirated (diesel excepted)

I really don't think the ND will be turbocharged despite what you want to hear on the teaser video.

^X2. HIGHLY doubt it'll be turbo.

If they use the skyactiv 2.0, it better have more than 160HP or they're doing it wrong.

Turbos add complexity and cost. I don't see it happening. I would rather have the larger engine anyway.

Mark Booth has been dropping some truth bombs on mnet.

160-165hp (Same as NC)
155-158ft-lbs (+15 ft-lbs vs the NC)
~2350lbs (200lb diet from the NC)

The 2015 Mazda2 has had a bunch of pics released today, and he also said something along the lines of the focus groups for the ND being shown similar pictures for the interior as the 2015 Mazda2.

The weight is a bit disappointing; however, it's going to be an extremely safe and fuel efficient car with "a lot" of area under the curve. The 13:1 2.0L in the Mazda3 is rated for 29/40mpg, and that car is at least 400lbs heavier than the ND.

I'm not exactly going to be crying myself to sleep over the "disappointment" of the ND.

Could you imagine if for once they under promised and over delivered?

Like it comes out and is 2k lb and 200hp or something.

one can dream right? lol

Being a noob about newer Mada engines (MZR are still mysterious), are there any larger engines than 2.0 in the same series?

These can take a slap-on turbo even worse than a MZR I guess (not only due to CR)?

Eventually the aftermarket will catch up a bit with gasoline DI engines and offer affordable high volume injectors and management solutions that work.

At which point we all get to play with higher compression engines that can get sort of close to MBT on pump gas and spool turbos pretty well despite relatively low displacement.

So its not all bad. But in a world of 400ish HP cars in the mid 30s its hard to look at a new car (anyone have actual info on price?) and be totally OK with under 200HP.

They go to 2.5L or so stock now.

The thing to watch is the dynamic compression which isn't published. They can play games with the valve timing that allows crazy high static compression numbers so that when cruising you can get the efficiency, but under load the intake valve will close later, intentionally reverting into the IM, to reduce the compression and stave off knock.

Adding e85 to these DI setups can get really fun. My MS3 makes 60whp more on e40 than it does on 93 (380 vs 320), and the VVT on the DISI is pretty basic.

If the MS3 can have that much power, why can't the MX5?

Because the taller MZR head and HPFP hanging off of cylinder 4 won't fit without a BFH as I hear it. Believe me I have thought about it though, just for the price to get it done, it would be cheaper to build a BP properly. Its bad wrap is mostly due to people/aftermarket being new to DI, its actually a very potent motor.

The official press kit is out for the 2015 Mazda2: The 2015 Mazda2 Is How You Make A Good-Looking Small Hatch

Outside of the goofy infotainment thing that seems like it was installed with double sided tape, I'm quite excited if the ND is supposed to have similar styling cues. Also, the gauge cluster looks pretty gorgeous.

http://i.kinja-img.com/gawker-media/...9526756424.jpg

Infotainment screen aside, I love that interior. Not a whole lot of cheap plastics everywhere and they kept it clean and simple.

Yeah, this looks great. My biggest fear with the new 2 (and mazda over the next 10 years) is that in an effort to appeal to more people the car will get softer and the driving dynamics will suffer. The current 2 is ridiculously fun on a quiet city street where you don't notice how gutless it is. Is there a law that you need to slow down for a 90 degree turn? :)

wow that looks great. so simple, which is a giant compliment

I didn't notice it initially, but there's a HUD.

THE FUTURE IS NOW

A HUD and a giant tach front and center. Thumbs up. I love Mazda engineering. They're great.

Tachometers and automatic gearboxes with faux "manual mode" are a tragic oxymoron. If the ECU gets a vote in gear selection, then there is simply no need for a tach - ever. The only exception to this rule is the ECU preventing a downshift which would result in over-revs. Unless I can bounce off of the rev limiter of this car for an ECU-Unlimited time period, the tachometer should be replaced with a giant "The engine is running" light bulb.

I've driven manuals without tachs. I'll take every car having a tach regardless of tranny than a lot of cars not having tachs even when manual.

And dynotronics just released a 2.7 stroker crank.

MZR or Skyactiv-G?
Or are the blocks/cranks identical (I would have guessed narrower bearings and other emissions crap on the Skyactiv).

MZR is a mazda L engine, Skyactiv-G is a P engine.

I'd love if the MX5 ended up coming out with the Skyactiv-D

MZR

I'm very seriously considering taking my car to him next to install a built 2.5 $5500 installed and tuned for ~200-210whp in the NC would be blast.

I second this. It has racing development backing it and offers more aftermarket potential.

everyone wants the D

Skyactive D

The S models of the 3 have this exact same setup.

Why so many people bash the high-mounted screen is totally beyond me. Does it look kinda funny? Sure. But it's simple, and it keeps your eyes on nearly the same level as the road. It's brilliant, and the command knob works really really well.

This is totally ridiculous.

Have you driven any of the new Mazdas (CX-5, 2014 Mazda 3, 2014+ Mazda 6)? They are outstanding to drive. I drive a 2012 3 daily and really like it, but every time I hop in a new 2014 3 it's a revelation, both in quality and in the ride/handling.

Inside: 93 close-up pics of the chassis. Hopefully you all can view it.

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?...3974066&type=1


Edit: teaser pics for the lazies

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1405997638 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1405997638

Fantastic find.

*wonders if he should wait for ND reveal before dropping big money suspension on NC*

Isn't the reveal date supposed to be September 3rd or something? If you don't need the NC suspension before then for a race or something, holding off probably won't hurt you that much.

great find with all those pictures. looks promising for sure. too bad still don't see a turbo strapped to the side of that block

Few things that I find noteworthy: the oil filter is in the right spot, some long intake AND exhaust runners (no turbo), and definitely 4 lug hubs.

Which brings me to my next point that it can only mean one thing: 949racing is the OE supplier for ND wheels for Mazda. WHERE ARE THE WHEELS, EMILIO?

Hmmmm, I wonder when they are actually supposed to go on sale (yes I'm too lazy to go back through this thread to see if it's been mentioned).

Mazda said to investors that they would deliver two new Skyactiv models before the end of Q1 2015 (March 31, 2015).

2015/2016 Mazda2 goes on sale in the fall for Japan, next year for US market
2016 MX-5 sold in January 2015 as a 2016 model like the 2014 Mazda6

Looks nice, I think there's plenty of room for a 6758 and manifold...