emilio700

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First article sample of the 17x8 Tungsten for the ND. 14.8 lbs with cap
17x9 has same face and is about 15.5 lbs

concealer404

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HNNNGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG

When will the 17x9 be available in 5x114?

EO2K

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Oh my gawd

Or x8 in 5x100. Subaru needs new shoes ...someday

emilio700

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Both of you guys need to spend like 30 seconds on our website or our facebook.

EO2K

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It was rhetorical, I've been following this pretty damn closely since the demise of the 6ULR and the announcement of the ND fitment wheel.

But point taken.

turbofan

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<p>wait wait wait wait.</p><p>It says out of stock. Does that mean I can't preorder? WHAT THE HELL AM I SUPPOSED TO DO IF I CAN'T PREORDER???</p><p></p><p>[note: this post is not ND related. It's S2k fitment 17x9 related]</p>

concealer404

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My bad. I don't facebook and i don't click on your website much unless i'm actively shopping.

concealer404

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Well, **** me.

Sky 2.0L stock vs tuned Dyno results - MX-5 Miata Forum

jacob300zx

Whoa mama, a 19/24 gain with a hot air intake. These are like V8 tune numbers.

18psi

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So is the 3 complete setup including header/exhaust/etc exactly identical or is everyone just choosing to ignore all that and just keep oohing and awwing? (I'm not even hating)

concealer404

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It's not. Most reports seem to have the Miata stuff actually being better. Either way, similar or better gains seem like a safe bet.

18psi

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K. just makin sure. Thx

Braineack

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nice AFRs.


/sarc.

18psi

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I don't see the problem with AFR since it's a DI engine.

I do see a problem with blind nut swinging and claims made off assumptions, but that's just me. I am disgusted with many other forums that do this, and hold MT to a higher standard.

/hater

Braineack

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i just dont care. until someone does it on an ND and it doesn't blow up like the first NC tunes (or all of FFS motors).

18psi

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di ecotec engines do something similar, and with boost.
I dunno. no DI tuning exp

Ziggo

If you are not knocking and the EGTs are not outrageous it's ok. Max power rich being somewhere about 12.5. DI doesn't change that.

That being said. I never really trust anyone who won't discuss what changes were made.

emilio700

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One thing all the skeptics need to keep in mind, it is an Atkinson cycle engine. Google that. If you know anything about cam timing, you will see the huge window for dynamic compression increase and cylinder filling efficiency once emissions and part throttle BSFC are tossed out the window. Know that the SAG 2.0 being DBW, will actually keep the throttle from going WOT as certain parts of the map even though you have it on the carpet.


Compare this runner and port to a BP. Worlds apart in flow potential. This is the first gen SAG pictured. The ND has the second gen motor. 155whp with a reflash on 91 seems entirely plausible.

Ziggo

Right. That is why I ignore all the folks saying you wont be able to turbocharge the motor because the static compression ratio is so high. Its the dynamic ratio that matters.

emilio700

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Exactly. Once you gain access to the ECU, there is a lot that can be done there. Being a hyper efficient DI engine, many of the old references for CR/boost will go out the window, particularly once someone bolts a Rotrex to it.

So 140lbs tq at 1700rpm in a 2300lb car. Yowza. That dyno plot looks very similar to the GT2554R Voodoo kit on my NB1 back in '04.