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droptopmiata92 10-15-2009 03:42 AM

man that thing just makes me drool just looking at it

Cspence 10-15-2009 05:00 PM

Is this the place that did the fab work and tuning??

.: Home :: Synapse Turbo :.

thagr81 us 10-15-2009 07:45 PM

Hey man... Can you shoot me some more pics of your tubed front end? I've been drooling over it since I first saw it. Thanks!

webby459 10-15-2009 09:24 PM


Originally Posted by Cspence (Post 468618)
Is this the place that did the fab work and tuning??

.: Home :: Synapse Turbo :.

I'm not the op, but that's the place. He did my ms tuning, and I think I'm going to have him build me a shorty for my 2560 and a 1.8. I'm not going to vband, but a 10mil through bolted flange. Everything there looks like the pics the op presented. I will post full pics when I build, but it won't be until December.

Cspence 10-15-2009 10:01 PM


Originally Posted by webby459 (Post 468786)
I'm not the op, but that's the place. He did my ms tuning, and I think I'm going to have him build me a shorty for my 2560 and a 1.8. I'm not going to vband, but a 10mil through bolted flange. Everything there looks like the pics the op presented. I will post full pics when I build, but it won't be until December.

Thank you...glad to find a shop some what local that has some tuning and fab skillz...speaking of tuning, how proficient were they with ms. On their site they didn't mention it as a platform they use...I'll be waiting for pictures of your build!

webby459 10-17-2009 01:07 PM


Originally Posted by Cspence (Post 468816)
Thank you...glad to find a shop some what local that has some tuning and fab skillz...speaking of tuning, how proficient were they with ms. On their site they didn't mention it as a platform they use...I'll be waiting for pictures of your build!

There will be pics of my build.

Morgan is proficient at megasquirt tuning. FYI, I brought my netbook that was already set up to communicate with the ms. I'm sure he has a laptop, but I thought bringing mine made things easier. He gave me the conservative tune that I asked for, it's a little fat up top, as per my tune thread in the dyno section.

ctdrftna 10-25-2009 09:22 PM

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intake mani is finish mounted, throttle cable is done. throttle body is mounted and all set. injectors and rail are installed. im running new arp studs and nuts on the intake side and new arp nuts on the ex. only thing im iffy about is the seating of the injectors. i think they are taller than the stock ones in some way, because they feel like they are all the way in. but i cant get the rail to sit all the way down on the mounts. its like an 1/8" up. but the bolts snug up. we'll see if it leaks when i put fuel to it.

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Cspence 10-25-2009 09:45 PM

Damn dude! I'm jealous...

Gotpsi? 10-25-2009 09:47 PM

well lets get that thing running already.

ctdrftna 10-25-2009 09:48 PM

its will run when its ready to run. NO RUSHING.

Faeflora 10-25-2009 10:54 PM

Did you put on the injector spacers?

Sam Amporful 10-25-2009 11:00 PM


Originally Posted by ctdrftna (Post 473452)
its will run when its ready to run. NO RUSHING.

Wise man. This is the key to win

Toddcod 10-25-2009 11:22 PM


Originally Posted by ctdrftna (Post 473452)
its will run when its ready to run. NO RUSHING.

What??? You don't want to hear THUMP thump...Clank Clank Clank CLANK.etc etc.

Lol..


Rushing always is a recipe for a blowed motor.

Toddcod 10-25-2009 11:48 PM

How did I miss this thread>:dunno:

NA6C-Guy 10-26-2009 12:08 AM


Originally Posted by Toddcod (Post 473520)
How did I miss this thread>:dunno:

I dunno, how DID you manage that? I think this was the first thread I started following when I started posting here. I just can't believe its not running yet! It is wise to not rush it though. Rushing has never worked out favorably for me anyway. Maybe some are more lucky than I.

This engine is almost exactly what I want to be able to do one day. One day being when I own not just one Miata that is my daily driver, and when I have a decent place to work on a car for extended periods, and when I can afford all of this shit you are throwing at it! I'm doing well just to be able to replace a part here and a part there. One day I will have a car this awesome though. It may take as long or longer than you, and it may sit in my future garage being pieced together as I can afford it, but having something like this for a fun project car would be awesome indeed. All of the fun is taken out of the process when its a rush to get it back on the road because you don't have anything else decent to drive.

miatamike203 10-26-2009 12:26 AM

Just amazing can't wait to see you on the road.

ctdrftna 10-26-2009 05:37 AM


Originally Posted by faeflora (Post 473486)
Did you put on the injector spacers?

yeah the spacers are in. they are precision 880cc mitsu injectors. and its an m-tuned rail.

thagr81 us 10-26-2009 04:11 PM

Any more pics of the tube front? :D

K20 Mini 11-10-2009 09:57 PM


Originally Posted by Cspence (Post 473448)
Damn dude! I'm jealous...

He's right. You suck! :)

ctdrftna 11-14-2009 03:35 PM

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yay, got some more work done today, not that fuel lines are very exciting, but i feel like i have made a big step forward towards getting the car running
all thats left for the fuel system is i need to install my walbro pump and buy a new fuel filter and a pressure gage to go on the reg. i also got the vaccum line for the brake booster done

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next up.... boundry engineering COP'S

NA6C-Guy 11-14-2009 03:46 PM

This car is just insane. Good job man, you are doing great.

ARTech 11-14-2009 04:20 PM

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Those lines look awesome, but...

How did you manage this?

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Hardline to AN fitting? The only way i've seen it done is flare + tube nut

ctdrftna 11-14-2009 05:52 PM

Holley Performance Products -6 AN Male to 5/16" Tubing Adapter 165056ERL

hard tube adaptors

Reverend Greg 11-14-2009 06:28 PM


Originally Posted by ctdrftna (Post 482523)

Im lovin that,Most people in the import scene know nothing about the domestic cars and parts.This proves what side of the fence you are on,Welcome to the party!
-G-

ctdrftna 11-14-2009 07:18 PM

i work part time for a race machine shop in CT, we build alot and alot of domestic V8 drag engines. so i get alot of exposure to that scene. not that i like the engines at all, i will always a import guy. but there are alot of american companys that make high quality parts that can be used on our cars. the fittings, it was just a matter of finding what i need.

jtothawhat 11-14-2009 08:58 PM

Was wondering where you got the ARP intake manifold bolts from? Sick build BTW!!!

ctdrftna 11-15-2009 09:12 AM

ARP 400-8024 is what i used, they are a 50mm (2 inch) long 8x1.25 stainless accessory stud. they have some shorter ones 400-8023 that are 1.75" long. i need the longer ones for my manifold cause it has a thicker flange than stock

tyson87 11-15-2009 02:18 PM


Originally Posted by ctdrftna (Post 482464)

plz refinish ur alt.

ctdrftna 11-15-2009 02:51 PM

lol this is all im hearing, the alt is fine.... it works

hustler 11-15-2009 04:11 PM

I like the hardline adapter. I want to do one of those for my oil return eventually.

curly 11-15-2009 04:56 PM

I'll do that for my fuel line eventually, they're a bitch to get on and off, even with a little oil rubbed on the hardline for lube.

hustler 11-15-2009 06:08 PM


Originally Posted by curly (Post 482878)
I'll do that for my fuel line eventually, they're a bitch to get on and off, even with a little oil rubbed on the hardline for lube.

We all know you like a little lube on the hard-line. :giggle:

ZX-Tex 11-15-2009 06:38 PM

Holy crap this is a nice build! Wow... Anyone that looks under that hood will know this car means business. I love the rad and IC mount, and the ultra-short IC ducts.

+1 on no turbo blanket. As nice as the rest of the fabrication is, a custom sheet metal stainless heat shield would be much sweeter, and less likely to cook the turbine bits.

Maybe I missed something later in the thread, but your tie rod end (Heim joint) looks like it is binding at full droop. The shim washers look like they are hitting or very close to hitting the ball socket. That is bad, really bad IMO. I do like the rod end thread adapter piece. Did you make it or buy it?

NA6C-Guy 11-15-2009 06:55 PM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 482903)
We all know you like a little lube on the hard-line. :giggle:

I was gonna take that, but I figured you could come up with something more creative. You disappoint me...

curly 11-15-2009 07:40 PM


Originally Posted by NA6C-Guy (Post 482915)
I was gonna take that, but I figured you could come up with something more creative. You disappoint me...

Seriously, he's taken too many nice pills lately, I was really setting you guys up for something, and was hoping it'd be better.

NA6C-Guy 11-15-2009 07:42 PM

Maybe he should retire. Next time I won't pass it up and will take a shot myself. :laugh:

triple88a 11-15-2009 09:00 PM

1 word:
Amazing

ctdrftna 11-15-2009 09:04 PM


Originally Posted by ZX-Tex (Post 482907)
Holy crap this is a nice build! Wow... Anyone that looks under that hood will know this car means business. I love the rad and IC mount, and the ultra-short IC ducts.

+1 on no turbo blanket. As nice as the rest of the fabrication is, a custom sheet metal stainless heat shield would be much sweeter, and less likely to cook the turbine bits.

Maybe I missed something later in the thread, but your tie rod end (Heim joint) looks like it is binding at full droop. The shim washers look like they are hitting or very close to hitting the ball socket. That is bad, really bad IMO. I do like the rod end thread adapter piece. Did you make it or buy it?

in what pic? if it has a bunch of washer, it was for mock-up. i made some new spacers that have radiused ends to that the dont bind. i jacked the suspention up to the max to check for binding. and it really doesnt droop alot. should be ok

ZX-Tex 11-15-2009 09:44 PM

OK no worries then. If you checked it at full droop, and you can still rotate the Heim joint a bit, then it is OK.

ctdrftna 11-15-2009 09:47 PM

yeah i jacked the car up and then jacked the suspention through the range and could wiggle them at all point. i should take a pic with the new spacers

ZX-Tex 11-15-2009 10:12 PM

Yeah please do. I would like to see it as I am doing this myself right now. Did you adjust the shims to remove bumpsteer?

ctdrftna 11-15-2009 10:18 PM

well i made them with a stack of spacers to ajust for bump steer. i havent done anything with them yet though. i have a suspention guy who does my alighnments. ill talk it over with him. right now my focus is getting the engine running

triple88a 11-15-2009 10:20 PM

btw i'm just curious, what size tube did u use? 1.25 od .125 wall?

ctdrftna 11-16-2009 05:46 AM

as far as what ??

the original cage was 1.75 o.d .095 wall (main hoop+ rear section,front down bars)

all the new work is 1.5 o.d .095 wall( it might be .125 i cant rember its been a while) the include(door bars,dash bar, front end hoop)

hustler 11-16-2009 08:12 AM


Originally Posted by NA6C-Guy (Post 482915)
I was gonna take that, but I figured you could come up with something more creative. You disappoint me...

next time I'll add the "looooooooololol" so you understand the context of jokes that must go not go unsaid.

webby459 11-16-2009 09:14 AM


Originally Posted by ctdrftna (Post 482998)
right now my focus is getting the engine running

Again, if you are taking this machine to Morgan for tuning, I implore you to post that up here or PM me. I wanna see this in action.

Because of this thread, I decided to move up my plans for my 1.8, and am having Morgan build me an exhaust mani, dp, and full exhaust this winter. He will tune me up again, as well.

ctdrftna 11-16-2009 12:28 PM

sure, ill pm you. at the rate im going, i would expect it to be mid spring time

ctdrftna 11-22-2009 07:32 PM

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do you see it? i do


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WonTon 11-22-2009 10:18 PM

coolant reroute? thermostat housing?

triple88a 11-22-2009 10:24 PM


Originally Posted by ctdrftna (Post 485803)
do you see it? i do

I see ya drugs home boy.

ctdrftna 11-28-2009 08:50 PM

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this is the 1st half on the thermostat housing. took 7 hrs of straight machining.

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it will use a 3/32 O-ring to seal. i will make the 2nd half and the sensor bungs and fill spout next weekend

triple88a 11-28-2009 08:58 PM

seriously 7 hours? i would have been done with it in about an hour and a half, two hours tops with a polished finish :P.

ctdrftna 11-28-2009 09:33 PM


Originally Posted by triple88a (Post 488054)
seriously 7 hours? i would have been done with it in about an hour and a half, two hours tops with a polished finish :P.

No you Wouldnt have. Not with the equipment i had to use . The band saw blade popped off three times just cutting the blank. All the od was done on a manual lathe with crap tooling. All the id was done on a ezTrak.

Full_Tilt_Boogie 11-28-2009 09:46 PM

Pretty slick, That would take forever to make if you had to do small cuts (like you have to do with a crappy lathe/ crappy tooling)
I cnat wait to see how its gonna be installed in the car

Reverend Greg 11-28-2009 10:16 PM

That is 6 min.Cnc Job,7 hrs manual is a bit long.I really want to see how this looks when done.I have something like That too.
https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/mem...ums/99/686.jpg
(G)

WonTon 11-28-2009 11:16 PM

i want!

ARTech 11-28-2009 11:54 PM

The AN fitting is pretty slick, was that the reason for making it from scratch? Otherwise this would have saved you a lot of time,

M-Tuned In Line Thermostat Housing with T-Stat M-Tuned

What's the ID on it anyway?

ctdrftna 11-29-2009 12:12 AM

yeah, i was cutting at .05 a pass. my boss doesnt want me cranking the rpms, so i have to turn at a slow feed rate. and the chuck jaws are shit, he machined ten diff diameters into them, so i was only grabing on like a 1/2" i didnt want to push it, and i didnt want to put in a live center. once i got it in the bridgeport it went pretty good. i didnt have a 2 flute ball endmill of the right dia, so i had to use 4 flute, so that took a little longer. the pics dont do it justice. it looks really really nice. the mtuned thing isnt what i want. i have a vmount so i am gonna be putting in a fill, so that its the highest point in the cooling system. no one makes one to my liking so im making my own. if i had a cnc this thing woulda been done in an hour or so.

ctdrftna 11-29-2009 12:24 AM

also its -16an, thats like .875 or something ID

miata2fast 11-29-2009 12:43 AM

From what I have seen so far, you know what the fuck you are doing.


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