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Full_Tilt_Boogie 04-13-2010 01:30 AM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 555210)
That shot is awesome, to bad the turbo manifold will fail.

tubing not thick enough for ya?

gesso 04-13-2010 03:32 AM

amazing build
 
I don't have anything new to add really. But daaaaaaammmmnn...

I know it was a while back but I've got some questions about your intake manifold. The velocity stacks, are they off the shelf (if so where did you get em?) or made in your shop on a lathe? If they were cnc'd by you, I'd love a file if you're willing to share, same goes for the manifold mounting plate.

ctdrftna 04-13-2010 04:43 AM

yeah hustler why do you say that? cause its not perfect equal lenghth?

as for the stacks, www.velocityofsound.com i belive
the flange i made, just double sided taped my hondata gasket to a the blank of metal and pick up and saved the hole locations on the ez track. i used dykem and traced the ports and went in and free handed them, then i finished them off and port matched them with a carbide burr

hustler 04-13-2010 08:03 AM


Originally Posted by ctdrftna (Post 555336)
yeah hustler why do you say that? cause its not perfect equal lenghth?

as for the stacks, www.velocityofsound.com i belive
the flange i made, just double sided taped my hondata gasket to a the blank of metal and pick up and saved the hole locations on the ez track. i used dykem and traced the ports and went in and free handed them, then i finished them off and port matched them with a carbide burr

It needs a crane like the renault F1 pic I've made popular...emphasis on "I."

m2cupcar 04-13-2010 08:30 AM

I'm surprised you didn't gut the stock gauge pod and put your gauges there. Decorating the dash with your gauges seems out of place on this car.

thagr81 us 04-13-2010 10:01 AM


Originally Posted by ctdrftna (Post 550031)
on another not does any one have any of these vent assemblys laying around. i need two of them( for the center console, not sure what i did with them.)

Still needing the eye ball vents? If so, PM me. I have two remaining from my part out I could sell you for fairly cheap. Let me know. Build is still awesome BTW...

ctdrftna 04-13-2010 04:10 PM

yeah hustler, i agree with you, i should put some bracing in there. i dont think i have to go to the extream of a crane setup, its not that far off the manifold, not as much leverage on the runners as those f1 pics. but i think a sold machined brace from the turbo flange to the head should help.

as for the cluster. i kept in stock for wiring simplicity, and to have a refernce set of gauges. its always good to be able to back up your aftermarket ones or vice versa. if i was gonna remove the cluster i woulda just put in a aim pista or similar. this works for now.


and i got eyeball vents on the from ebay already

Full_Tilt_Boogie 04-13-2010 04:13 PM


Originally Posted by ctdrftna (Post 555787)
yeah hustler, i agree with you, i should put some bracing in there. i dont think i have to go to the extream of a crane setup, its not that far off the manifold, not as much leverage on the runners as those f1 pics. but i think a sold machined brace from the turbo flange to the head should help.

as for the cluster. i kept in stock for wiring simplicity, and to have a refernce set of gauges. its always good to be able to back up your aftermarket ones or vice versa. if i was gonna remove the cluster i woulda just put in a aim pista or similar. this works for now.


and i got eyeball vents on the from ebay already

what is it made of?

These fucking engines have some messed up vibrational issues, Manifolds that are fine on hondas crack immediately on a BP

thagr81 us 04-13-2010 04:19 PM


Originally Posted by ctdrftna (Post 555787)
and i got eyeball vents on the from ebay already

Glad to hear... Still can't wait to see this thing up and running.

I was also curious about the thickness of the piping for the manifold..

ctdrftna 04-13-2010 04:23 PM


Originally Posted by Full_Tilt_Boogie (Post 555790)
what is it made of?

These fucking engines have some messed up vibrational issues, Manifolds that are fine on hondas crack immediately on a BP

sch40 stainless, prob 316

musanovic 04-13-2010 04:47 PM

wow !!!!!!!
thats it

Full_Tilt_Boogie 04-13-2010 04:49 PM


Originally Posted by ctdrftna (Post 555794)
sch40 stainless, prob 316

oh well shit, I figured it was sch 10, I shouldnt have doubted you, haha

I would probably do some fancy bracing just for the sake of over-engineering, but itll probably be okay without it.

hustler 04-13-2010 05:22 PM


Originally Posted by Full_Tilt_Boogie (Post 555809)
oh well shit, I figured it was sch 10, I shouldnt have doubted you, haha

I would probably do some fancy bracing just for the sake of over-engineering, but itll probably be okay without it.

Twins turbo uses Schedule-40 and a crane on every manifold they make and they supposedly have no tubular failures after figuring this out. The longer the runners the worse the vibration. I need to get Abe to make one for me but it takes too much damn effort for me to do anything.

gesso 04-13-2010 05:50 PM


Originally Posted by ctdrftna (Post 555336)
as for the stacks, www.velocityofsound.com i believe

I'm guessing you meant www.velocity-of-sound.com

I went to your link at first and figured you were fucking with me cause you didn't want me making a manifold like yours. Not that I can rule that out at this point :o

Reverend Greg 04-13-2010 06:22 PM

Interesting site ,Profiles seem far from optimised,fluidly speaking.
(G)

mazpr 04-13-2010 06:29 PM

OMG, this is out of this world, take your time and keep the photos coming.

On many of the pictures I have to really see to figure out how things go and why, very good attention to detail.

ctdrftna 04-18-2010 08:43 AM

So I couldn't get my comp to connect to megasquirt, then it got a crap vista antivirus 2010. Virus. So I put in the stock ecu. Cranked it and I got a split moment of noise. It fired very breifly on 880cc's and no maf. Atleast I confirmed my wiring is good and I got fuel and spark. Now to get that ms working

ZX-Tex 04-18-2010 10:57 AM

Maybe I am suggesting something you already know, but it seems like you could get close enough to get it running by loading a base map and scaling the fuel table (and corrections) for the injectors.

ctdrftna 04-18-2010 11:07 AM

Well my problem was I couldn't get my laptop to connect. I'm using diy's usb to serial converter and a vista powered gateway.

GT42R 04-18-2010 12:43 PM


Originally Posted by ctdrftna (Post 558054)
Well my problem was I couldn't get my laptop to connect. I'm using diy's usb to serial converter and a vista powered gateway.

Might be the USB > Serial cable. I've always had problems connecting with those involved in my EMS experience.

cardriverx 04-18-2010 08:59 PM


Originally Posted by GT42R (Post 558086)
Might be the USB > Serial cable. I've always had problems connecting with those involved in my EMS experience.

USB to serial cables suck big cock, they only work right sometimes. I bet ya thats it.

Cspence 04-18-2010 09:28 PM


Originally Posted by ctdrftna (Post 558054)
Well my problem was I couldn't get my laptop to connect. I'm using diy's usb to serial converter and a vista powered gateway.

I can give my laptop / cable a try....let me know if you want a hand

240_to_miata 04-18-2010 09:32 PM

I use one from newegg with no problems. My DIY one always gave me shit. I am also available to help you with MS one weekend if u need it.

Full_Tilt_Boogie 04-18-2010 09:33 PM

USB to serial fails on Vista/7

I tried and tried to get my USB to serial adpater to work on both Vista and 7, tried it on my old laptop running XP and it worked immediatly.
I finally found a use for that laptop, the worlds biggest wideband gauge, haha

Cspence 04-18-2010 09:36 PM

I'm runnin vista and dont have issues....XP would still probably be better though.

ctdrftna 04-19-2010 04:54 AM

Thanks for the offers guys. Let me see how I make out this weekend. If I still have issues ill have one of you help me

ctdrftna 04-19-2010 11:46 AM


Originally Posted by 240_to_miata (Post 558294)
I use one from newegg with no problems. My DIY one always gave me shit. I am also available to help you with MS one weekend if u need it.

What one are you using from there they sell a few of them including the one I have from cables unlimited.

240_to_miata 04-19-2010 08:10 PM

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...-009-_-Product

ZX-Tex 04-19-2010 09:45 PM


Originally Posted by 240_to_miata (Post 558823)

That one LOOKS a lot like the one I bought from a local PC shop and it works fine, albeit with XP, not hastalaVista.

ctdrftna 04-20-2010 04:56 AM

I tried to use me dads comp last night. Similar setup to mine, and still no go. My brother is gonna partitian my hard drive and set it up so I can run in xp or vista. I may try a different adapter too. The one posted looks nice. In the mean time. If one of you ct guys wants to come help me out this weekend shoot me A pm and we can set something up

UrbanSoot 04-20-2010 06:41 AM


Originally Posted by 240_to_miata (Post 558823)

used that with 5 different megasquirts on 4 different laptops under windows, linux, and windows simulation (mac os x host) all without a single glitch.

ctdrftna 04-20-2010 10:41 AM

I ordered the one from newegg.

240_to_miata 04-20-2010 10:48 AM

nice. I also PMed you about this weekend. I should be around for a while. I might start playing with tunerstudio.

Cspence 04-20-2010 04:47 PM


Originally Posted by 240_to_miata (Post 559112)
I might start playing with tunerstudio.

Do it...I like it much more than megatune

ctdrftna 04-20-2010 07:14 PM

Yeah I will be using tuner studio

ctdrftna 04-22-2010 05:11 AM

I got my old xp powered laptop to fire up. And me new cable should be in today. So I'm hoping that fri i@can't give it another shot and it connects. Also I called summit to bitch about there junk an fittings and they sent me a earl's replacement for free :-)

thagr81 us 04-22-2010 07:59 AM

What happened with Summit's AN fittings? I have a buddy who built a rock-crawling rig that swears by them...

02semiata 04-22-2010 08:07 AM


Originally Posted by UrbanSoot (Post 559008)
used that with 5 different megasquirts on 4 different laptops under windows, linux, and windows simulation (mac os x host) all without a single glitch.

Same here we use this at work to console into routers and switches works fine under all OS's

ctdrftna 04-22-2010 08:23 AM

So far iv had two -6 straight hose end leak from the swivel joint between the flare end and the hose end

thagr81 us 04-22-2010 09:55 AM

Weak... Good luck with the new fittings.

GT42R 04-22-2010 11:33 AM


Originally Posted by ctdrftna (Post 560483)
So far iv had two -6 straight hose end leak from the swivel joint between the flare end and the hose end

Installation/assembly error, or poor quality fittings?

Where did you order them from so one knows to avoid?

240_to_miata 04-22-2010 11:45 AM

still want a hand this weekend? Im free saturday any time. Text me?

shlammed 04-22-2010 11:47 AM

since they are summit hose ends, summit racing.

I have had decent luck with my summit ends, although the earls ones are a much better quality, followed by russell.

thagr81 us 04-22-2010 12:16 PM

My buddy didn't have any problems with the Summit ones either... He has QUITE a few in his rig. Sure there are always bad apples in every tree every once in awhile...

ctdrftna 04-22-2010 01:05 PM

Yeahi have a ton of them on my car. The only ones iv put pressure to are the fuel lines. None of the 90's leaked. Only two straights. Its a mfg defect. Its leaking at the swivel joint that is assembled by them

AbeFM 04-23-2010 10:30 PM

Parallax has a serial port I swear by - we do lots and lots of goofy hardware at my work, and we order them by the 20 pack.


Originally Posted by Full_Tilt_Boogie (Post 555790)
what is it made of?

These fucking engines have some messed up vibrational issues, Manifolds that are fine on hondas crack immediately on a BP

No kidding. My GOD have I found this out the hard way. :-) More bracing. And don't think insan-o good metal will save you - it needs bracing.

ctdrftna 04-24-2010 10:42 AM

swaped out the summit fitting for the earls and no more leaks. 240tomiata is coming over today to try and help me get the MS working. If this doesn't work I have to send it back to braineack and have him look it over.

ctdrftna 04-30-2010 06:26 PM






IT RUNS!!!!!!
still got some bugs to work out
and got some tunning to do and a bunch of odds and ends

but here you go..... enjoy!!

Braineack 04-30-2010 06:30 PM

yay for running 800cc injectors.

GT42R 04-30-2010 06:35 PM

What turbo you running, and how much power you intend to make?

ctdrftna 04-30-2010 06:36 PM

i still need alot of tunning. when i try to rev it it falls on its face. and it was running pig rich. i ajusted the ve table a little to get the a/f up in the 12's it was in the 10's. i gotta set my timing still and correct some other issues. this was just a teaser. motor might have 5 min run time at this point.

ctdrftna 04-30-2010 06:37 PM

shoulda read the thread, i know its alot. GT3071R. 400whp i hope.

Cspence 04-30-2010 06:38 PM

Awsome!!

Gotpsi? 04-30-2010 07:06 PM

Congrats man cant wait to see some drift videos.

turotufas 04-30-2010 08:55 PM

This here, it be sick. Driftin mahn!

Full_Tilt_Boogie 04-30-2010 09:00 PM

sounds badass

shitty camera work though, haha

Reverend Greg 04-30-2010 09:08 PM

Yah!!!!!!!!! Ive been waiting to see/hear this thing for a while,Congrats!
(G)

ctdrftna 04-30-2010 09:30 PM


Originally Posted by Full_Tilt_Boogie (Post 566043)
sounds badass

shitty camera work though, haha


haha thats the g/f

NA6C-Guy 04-30-2010 10:20 PM

:yippee: Good to see it alive. Get her tuned, and then get us some videos of it driving!

Fireindc 05-01-2010 06:31 AM

yes! More videos as you progress please! I want to see some pulls in this thing.


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