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Old 01-17-2008, 10:35 PM   #121
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I'm sorry but that's kinda sad. I haven't dynoed my car but based on the cars I've raced my BP has to be putting down 130hp, maybe slightly more.
If you have a stock or mostly stock NA, bullshit. I beat a s2k at the drags with my tired old 146k mile BP that was burning more oil than gas, I think it would have as lucky to be putting down 90hp. I've been to the dyno, and obviously you haven't.

People making more N/A power than me have a lot more work and $$ than I have , but I'm sure there are exceptions. I'm not making excuses, but I'm still running a stock intake tube with just a cone filter, and a crappy exhaust on the dyno. I still have not hooked up the VICS yet. as long as were "bench racing" I think I'll meet my goal of 140 rwhp/130 tq...
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Old 01-17-2008, 10:39 PM   #122
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1967cutlas is the new robert.f.melbert
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Old 01-18-2008, 01:13 AM   #123
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[QUOTE=Stealth97;201019]You guys are a bunch of ------s so you've lost the privilege to see the video of my car. **** off.[/URL]

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Old 01-18-2008, 01:24 AM   #124
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Anyway, most of you guys don't know what the **** you're talking about, although you've entirely convinced yourself that you do. Don't look forward to me posting much here anymore.
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Don't look forward to me posting much here anymore.
Big loss.
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Could one of the mods please ban this ingrate already(1967cutlass).He's getting pretty disrespectful for a newb.
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Could one of the mods please ban this ingrate already(1967cutlas).He's getting pretty disrespectful for a newb.
Yes, I'm done interrupting your guys' circle jerk of knowledge. Ban me forever
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Old 01-18-2008, 02:13 AM   #129
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So in 7 pages what has everyone learned?

So is the challenge to build a 160whp motor with 2k?
Is the $2000 just for engine parts (I.E. excluding engine management)?

If so..I'll try it.
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Old 01-18-2008, 02:21 AM   #130
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leshok, 160whp on a stock bottom end for under $2k in parts is the challenge.
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Old 01-18-2008, 03:00 AM   #131
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Good god. That is madness.
Can I use OEM 10:1 pistons and call it a "2001" shortblock?

This is still gonna be a mission, but i'll see what I can do. Its mainly due to the fact of the on/off tps set up. I'll have to figure somthing out.
Wish me luck.
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Old 01-18-2008, 03:06 AM   #132
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It's not the valve area that counts, it's the "curtain area": CIRCUMFERENCE x LIFT. This gives 4 valve heads a bigger advantage over 2 valve heads than valve area would suggest.

2 valve heads with torturous port shapes need much more cam duration than 4 valve heads for 2 reasons:

1) the valvetrain mass from the pushrods and heavy valves means the opening and closing ramps are very slow
2) the port flow takes time to build velocity after initial valve opening or something like that

Popstoy on miataforum has a 160 whp '99, with a stock header. He basically has complete headwork, lightened valvetrain, biggish cams, a Greddy Blue, and a rebuilt block (not sure about rods and pistons). Work was done by Rebello.

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Old 01-18-2008, 07:33 AM   #133
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He also spent about $10k
158whp I believe it was (someone correct me if I am wrong) was done on 10:1, stock exhaust cam, a better intake cam. Not too bad.
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He also spent about $10k
158whp I believe it was (someone correct me if I am wrong) was done on 10:1, stock exhaust cam, a better intake cam. Not too bad.
His numbers are very impressive. especially considering he still has a MAF in place and a stock header. He did say it was $10k when all said and done.
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It's actually 159.9whp on what I believe is a hogged-out 01 header. Not sure what the cam setup is. I have also heard $4500 in the block itself; the $10k includes installation of that hot motor by Rebello, as well as dyno time to get it tuned correctly.

If I could only convince him to ditch the stupid "Greedy" kit, as he calls it, and pick up a Megasquirt...
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It is impressive numbers, no doubt, and I kind of like Popstoy. But why oh whyyy he spends 10K$ on 160HP is just a big to me. Each man to his own, I guess.
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The only thing we've learned is that dropping any more money into "power mods" going the NA route verses FI is dumb.

And that superchargers are for pussies. Sorry Pat. :-P
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It is impressive numbers, no doubt, and I kind of like Popstoy. But why oh whyyy he spends 10K$ on 160HP is just a big to me. Each man to his own, I guess.
The price you pay for not turning a single wrench on it
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what cams should i get for '99 head?
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what cams should i get for '99 head?
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