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pusha 08-17-2011 12:01 AM

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Originally Posted by djp0623 (Post 760511)
I really don't understand the "tactical" craze I see associated with rifle building. I guess it's a hobby like putting shit on our cars. Have you ever picked up one of these "fully loaded" autos? Too heavy for me.

I'm with Pusha: Fuck the "pimp my gun" bullshit. How about you pimp that range time and become one with your rifle.

However, I am not a Colt Nazi. I'm shopping a DPMS LR-308L 7.9lbs empty. I think testing and reloading my own ammo is going to be the fun part, but I'm a nerd.

I'm not a Colt Nazi, I just feel that the whole "COLTS ARE OVERPRICED LOLSSSS" argument is fucking STUPID. It's an extra $200. Who gives a fuck? I'll spend the extra money and be that guy at the range. Here is the most tactical thing I own:

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Wait, what's this?

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OH YEAH, FUCK THIS LITTLE PIECE OF SHIT. I HATE THIS RIFLE SO MUCH I WANT TO DRAG IT BEHIND MY TRUCK ALL THE WAY TO SPRINGFIELD, MASS AND TELL MICHAEL GOLDEN WHAT'S WHAT.


Originally Posted by rmcelwee (Post 760515)
Some people would think that doing your own reloads are as stupid as putting a bunch of shit on your gun. I swear to God the next time someone yells at me to watch my step when their brass lands by my feet I'm going to put them out of their misery. The only time I have had a revolver fail on me was when I used reloads and the guy didn't put the primers in far enough. Do a reload, save $0.01 a round, get killed when your revolver jams. Priceless...

Meh, I think that, like anything else in life, if you do it correctly, you won't have issues.



Originally Posted by rmcelwee (Post 760516)
Haters gonna hate.

Upset because he can accurately shoot the horribly inaccurate SKS? He gets paid to shoot machine guns and flamethrowers. When I was his age I was delivering pizzas. What's the problem?

No, I'm upset because he's a straight sucka.

rmcelwee 08-17-2011 12:04 AM

How do you guys get these good deals at a pawn shop. We hit three of them yesterday. I didn't find one thing that I couldn't get new for 10% more (and some stuff was more expensive than new). I don't get it???

pusha 08-17-2011 12:08 AM

Establish a relationship with a trustworthy broker.

rmcelwee 08-17-2011 12:33 AM

Trustworthy broker? I've never heard of such a thing.

The guys around here are ruthless and lie about everything. It must be different in other parts of the country. I like going to the shops and looking around but I rarely find anything other than shit. When I do find something nice they want way too much for it.

Example: Yesterday I found a Firestorm 18V cordless circular saw and flashlight. They wanted $125 for them (or at least that was what was on the ticket). The same thing including a drill is brand new all over the place for $130. Amazing....

gearhead_318 08-17-2011 01:05 AM

I think it's because people go in there thinking that whatever is for sale is going to be a lot cheaper then new and don't bother checking on the actual new price.

elesjuan 08-17-2011 01:10 AM

I've had good luck with the "I'll give you $XXX for _____" and show them cash. If they don't take your offer or counter, walk away.

Works in gun stores and gun shows too, especially if they're charging > retail prices. Just wish it worked at Cabelas. Browsed through their used pistola cabinets tonight, found a used Walther PK380 for $360.00. Made me want to tell them I paid $300 cash at a retail mom and pop shop down the street for one brand new...

gospeed81 08-17-2011 08:50 AM


Originally Posted by rmcelwee (Post 760526)
How do you guys get these good deals at a pawn shop. We hit three of them yesterday. I didn't find one thing that I couldn't get new for 10% more (and some stuff was more expensive than new). I don't get it???


Well, I ended up getting what would have been ~$825 in merchandise new for $420 like this:

They wouldn't go down more than $20 on the welder despite my endless low-balling, so I told them I'd drop twice that in cash that day in the store if they had a cheap enough used handgun (which they didn't).

They did have a larger caliber rifle with a Bushnell scope in my price range. This was something I've been wanting since I realized I'd never save up for an AR.

I just kept haggling until I figured the deal met two criteria:

1. I was happy with it.

2. Wife wouldn't kill me. :bowrofl:

And then handed them the cash. Overall I talked them down almost $100, and spent half what I would retail. Now I can weld up some plates...and then knock them down from a couple of hundred yards away. This is nice because since selling the bullpup AK I haven't had anything I can target shit with out past 50yds.

Opti 08-17-2011 05:06 PM


Originally Posted by rmcelwee (Post 760515)
Some people would think that doing your own reloads are as stupid as putting a bunch of shit on your gun. I swear to God the next time someone yells at me to watch my step when their brass lands by my feet I'm going to put them out of their misery. The only time I have had a revolver fail on me was when I used reloads and the guy didn't put the primers in far enough. Do a reload, save $0.01 a round, get killed when your revolver jams. Priceless...

Ive done my own reloads since I was real young. Never ever had a problem, done them on every gun Ive ever owned except my 22, its just a little varmint gun.

I like reloading because I can get the loads exactly how I want them.

About the only gun I run alot of rounds through anymore is the shotgun, been doing alot of clay shooting lately, and I tak the .44 to the range every few months.

The rifle only gets shot at the beginning of deer season to sight in or just check it and when I shoot an animal. With very little practice, Im accurate to atleast 400 yards. Never tried to shoot it past that

miatauser884 08-17-2011 05:33 PM

The funny part about reloading is that I don't think it really saves a ton of money. You by more expensive supplies, and probably shoot twice as much. I like collecting and analyzing data, so it's up my ally.

pusha 08-17-2011 10:33 PM

anyone want to buy a "post-ban" configured JLD Enterprises PTR-91?

elesjuan 08-17-2011 11:26 PM


Originally Posted by djp0623 (Post 760778)
The funny part about reloading is that I don't think it really saves a ton of money. You by more expensive supplies, and probably shoot twice as much. I like collecting and analyzing data, so it's up my ally.

To be honest with you depending on what bullets you're using it can cost pretty much the same to buy factory loads as reloading if you figure cost per bullet.

There is a twist. I cast my own pistol and some rifle bullets out of lead. Not counting the cost of equipment for reloading (that doesn't count same as you wouldn't count the cost of a welder and other tools for your turbo build) it costs me about $0.04/round for .380acp and $0.06/round for 9mm.

Yes, there is a lot of time invested in it but I enjoy the process and isn't really difficult in the least. My lead is completely free and nearly unlimited, so a prepped case which I collect thousands of and rework, small pistol primers are around 28$/1000 and a 5# bottle of powder is around 50$ last time I bought..



Now if I could only perfect .223/5.56 lead loads in an AR... :makeout:

pusha 08-20-2011 12:03 AM

Someone made the mistake of breaking into my apartment last night. Teehee.

gearhead_318 08-20-2011 12:31 AM


Originally Posted by pusha (Post 761608)
Someone made the mistake of breaking into my apartment last night. Teehee.

You smoke somebody?

elesjuan 08-20-2011 01:38 AM

lol, you're gonna have to post more details than that...

pusha 08-20-2011 01:50 AM

Some asswipe thought it'd be a good idea to break into my apartment. My roommate woke up to see this dude standing over him and started screaming. Fortunately, for all parties involved, both I and my little friend were ten minutes away at my girl's house. Nothing is missing and the only thing disrupted was our game of Risk. Measures have been made to ensure it won't happen again.

gearhead_318 08-20-2011 01:57 AM


Originally Posted by pusha (Post 761628)
Some asswipe thought it'd be a good idea to break into my apartment. My roommate woke up to see this dude standing over him and started screaming. Fortunately, for all parties involved, both I and my little friend were ten minutes away at my girl's house. Nothing is missing and the only thing disrupted was our game of Risk. Measures have been made to ensure it won't happen again.

That'd be scary as fuck, did they catch the guy? Is your roommate ok? I guess he'll be getting a little friend too now.

elesjuan 08-20-2011 02:00 AM

Jesus Christ.

I've had that dream like 100 times.. Waking up with someone standing over me like that. Gives me chills..

pusha 08-20-2011 02:50 AM

No, the cops took a couple mins to get there but the guy got away. The alarm company got an earful of shit this morning.

As far as my roommate goes, the kid is FREAKING -- I'd have just drawn down on the sonofabitch. He's going to be taking his ccw class this week and will be buying a couple ratchets.

Honestly, I'm glad I wasn't there. Even legally owned machine guns used in a "clean shoot" call for a grand jury hearing.

pusha 08-20-2011 02:51 AM

The best part was when the cops asked me if I stay strapped.

elesjuan 08-22-2011 09:22 PM

Went to a new (to me) rifle range in butt fucking egypt Missouri, roughly 1 hour east of KC. The place was completely deserted, so the three of us shot 'solo' all day. Arrived shortly after 09:00 to a pretty heavy rain storm. Setup our targets downrange and let the fun begin.

http://jugrnot.com/IMG_20110822_142012.jpg

Range was 50, 100, 200, and 300 meters. The 300 doesn't *look* like 300 but after walking down and back 4 times... Not a doubt in my mind. :rofl:

http://jugrnot.com/IMG_20110822_143438.jpg

Found some steel targets at all the distances which were properly shot to shit. Examined the holes and dents which were all filled with some surface rust so I set them up on the railroad ties and gave them hell with my Mosin Nagant. First plate (blue) didn't go all the way through but the second did. No idea what steel they were made of, likely nothing special and were roughly 1" thick. 190gr steel core "light ball" for the win!

http://jugrnot.com/IMG_20110822_144342.jpg
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Zero'd my 1960s Glenfield Model 60 with the cheap ass scope at 50 meters, also which I believe was from 1960s. Ran an entire box of 550 rounds through it with almost no malfunctions! Mine has an 18 round magazine and does not hold the bolt open after the last shot which dates it pre-1980 though I can't nail down an exact date. Discovered Winchester "wildcat" .22lr is complete junk and very glad I only had a small 50 round box. 10 of those failed to fire, even after placing them in my AR and smashing the rim into oblivion...

It was free and I still want my money back:
http://jugrnot.com/IMG_7845.jpg


Finally moved my target down to 300 meters. Using a shitty bipod and my HAND to support the rear of the rifle I managed some "not bad" groups. Hit the target 1/2 from center and considering the circumstances I'm surprised I even got it. My eye sight (poor) with a 20x40 scope @ 300 meters with a standard reticle, looks like a blurry orange dot to me.

http://jugrnot.com/IMG_20110822_145225.jpg


I had a great day. Beats getting up @ 5am for bridge calls or driving to the office in rush hour traffic any day of the week!! We left the range at 5pm to come home... With my recent back injury and a day like this, I'm going to go die now. :)


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