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Where are you guys buying ammo these days? The places I used to buy it in person are out (Walmart, Rural King) and Sportsman's Guide is out of stock on almost everything. I see Cheaper Than Dirt still has some availability. Are there better choices before I mash the buy button? Mostly looking for range ammo and haven't bought in several years.
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Where are you guys buying ammo these days? The places I used to buy it in person are out (Walmart, Rural King) and Sportsman's Guide is out of stock on almost everything. I see Cheaper Than Dirt still has some availability. Are there better choices before I mash the buy button? Mostly looking for range ammo and haven't bought in several years.
#6144
Originally Posted by sixshooter
Where are you guys buying ammo these days? The places I used to buy it in person are out (Walmart, Rural King) and Sportsman's Guide is out of stock on almost everything. I see Cheaper Than Dirt still has some availability. Are there better choices before I mash the buy button? Mostly looking for range ammo and haven't bought in several years.
#6145
I'm not...
I dug all my reloading gear out at the start of the recent 'troubles', and fortunately had a couple thousand primers leftover from who knows when. That's keeping me in .357, .44 mag and .45 colt. I can load .45 acp if I need to, but haven't been shooting much .45 acp lately. 9mm I'm just not shooting right now... can't replace it for sane prices. Recently picked up some more large pistol primers through contacts from someone that was selling off a large stash...
I'm also shooting .22, which I seem to be able to get somewhat regularly from local outlets.
I dug all my reloading gear out at the start of the recent 'troubles', and fortunately had a couple thousand primers leftover from who knows when. That's keeping me in .357, .44 mag and .45 colt. I can load .45 acp if I need to, but haven't been shooting much .45 acp lately. 9mm I'm just not shooting right now... can't replace it for sane prices. Recently picked up some more large pistol primers through contacts from someone that was selling off a large stash...
I'm also shooting .22, which I seem to be able to get somewhat regularly from local outlets.
#6146
I'm not, everything is totally fucked right now. Prices and availability are insane and have been since early 2020. I'm not going shooting much. I have a stash of a few thousand rounds each the calibers I shoot but I'm afraid to use up too much of it.
- 22LR is like 15-20 cents a round right now, a little brick of it is like 100 bucks
- 7.62x39 is 50 cents a round for steel case FMJ, if you can find it, stuff like SP is sold out permanently
- handgun ammo is largely not found at any price
- 5.56x45 is nearly a buck a round for M193 ball type
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I'm not, everything is totally fucked right now. Prices and availability are insane and have been since early 2020. I'm not going shooting much. I have a stash of a few thousand rounds each the calibers I shoot but I'm afraid to use up too much of it.
- 22LR is like 15-20 cents a round right now, a little brick of it is like 100 bucks
- 7.62x39 is 50 cents a round for steel case FMJ, if you can find it, stuff like SP is sold out permanently
- handgun ammo is largely not found at any price
- 5.56x45 is nearly a buck a round for M193 ball type
#6148
My son Austin is part owner of "Gun Geeks"
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He is BIG TIME into this stuff.
He said prices are dropping right now.
9mm was 40-50 box 3 weeks ago
It was offered at 35-40 box and selling at 30 last weekend...
If you really want to sell stuff do it now...
If you are looking for stuff wait another 6 weeks.
It may be much cheaper then.
He deep enough into this stuff that he recently had some 50 cal stuff that was worth $70 a ROUND!
Gun Geeks – Quality services for gun enthusiasts.
He is BIG TIME into this stuff.
He said prices are dropping right now.
9mm was 40-50 box 3 weeks ago
It was offered at 35-40 box and selling at 30 last weekend...
If you really want to sell stuff do it now...
If you are looking for stuff wait another 6 weeks.
It may be much cheaper then.
He deep enough into this stuff that he recently had some 50 cal stuff that was worth $70 a ROUND!
Last edited by technicalninja; 03-05-2021 at 02:22 PM. Reason: Only the ninja knows...
#6150
Sorry, I spend more time on gun forums than I do here - I just assumed that everybody would know what the picture I posted was. Gotta remember this is a gun thread on a car forum. That's a Definitive Arms adjustable gas block for an AKM.
For those of you not versed on suppressing an AK platform, there are two main problems - the 14x1LH barrel threading is not bore-centric, and the long-piston design is overgassed from the factory for reasons of soviet reliability, comrade. Suppressing it makes it even more overgassed resulting in it spitting in your face with every shot as the excess gas blows out the charging handle slot in the dust cover. The solution to problem one is form 1 SBR it and just cut bore-centric threads in a more common western threading, probably 1/2x28. The solution to problem two is an adjustable gas block. The more common adjustable gas piston is not desirable because it just vents the excess gas straight into the action (and out the side, and into your face).
Now you know.
Note: there is a suppressor made specifically for the AK without doing any of the above, the Dead Air Wolverine. For a plug and play solution it's pretty good but it's a compromise, especially if you plan on shooting subsonic.
For those of you not versed on suppressing an AK platform, there are two main problems - the 14x1LH barrel threading is not bore-centric, and the long-piston design is overgassed from the factory for reasons of soviet reliability, comrade. Suppressing it makes it even more overgassed resulting in it spitting in your face with every shot as the excess gas blows out the charging handle slot in the dust cover. The solution to problem one is form 1 SBR it and just cut bore-centric threads in a more common western threading, probably 1/2x28. The solution to problem two is an adjustable gas block. The more common adjustable gas piston is not desirable because it just vents the excess gas straight into the action (and out the side, and into your face).
Now you know.
Note: there is a suppressor made specifically for the AK without doing any of the above, the Dead Air Wolverine. For a plug and play solution it's pretty good but it's a compromise, especially if you plan on shooting subsonic.
#6151
I've suppressed a few AKs and I think
- I think the definitive arms block is the only gas mod worth bothering with. The settings are easy and repeatable (ie, numbered settings with a detent that prevent movement) and it allows you to compensate for overgassing and undergassing (ie, subs). Nothing else comes close to offering that.
- Trying to fit a can under a long handguard is a bad idea, especially if you're running the definitive arms block. Something that long (like the slr handguards) will block the gas adjustment or at least make it a pain in the *** to adjust
- All the cans worth getting are at least 1.5 inches diameter, it's almost an industry standard. You're not going to get small diameter cans except in 22LR. For examples, Wolverine adapter is yuuuge diameter, nomad family is all 1 3/4 diameter an inch past the muzzle.
- If you want to get a handgun can for ak use, the wolfman works with the jmac 2 chamber keymo brake and the 9mm bore gives a ton of room to avoid baffle strikes
- I like the definitive arms block, and have it in one of my guns. It works great but there is a decent chance any AK will work fine without any gas mods if you use a low back pressure can. So basically avoid the SiCo Omega.
- Any 30 cal can is good for ak use if they are concentric- check with a bore rod.
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Thanks for the info on the ammo. I am still in sticker shock for the ammo that is actually available on ammoseek. I remember buying 9mm and 38 special for 8 or 9 dollars for a box of 50 for range plinking loads 15 years ago. Now I see them for 40 or 50 if available. Some calibers are completely unavailable or only have one choice.
Looks like most or all of my guns will have to stay in the safe for a while longer.
Looks like most or all of my guns will have to stay in the safe for a while longer.
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Is there any downside to plinking with .308 tracers other than the fire risk? They are cheaper than regular rounds right now. New brass, made in America. I think they may be better to the gun than Wolf or other eastern European choices.
#6158
On the subject of plinking, I had been looking for one of the Savage MKII FV-SR .22 bolt actions since I didn't have a bolt gun I could put my .22 can on. Out of stock everywhere for months, and used ones are bringing $400+ on Gunbroker... for a rifle with a $279 retail price that usually sells for ~ $230! Nothing similar was in stock anywhere, so I broke down and bought a Tikka T1x off the shelf at my LGS. They have a reputation for excellent accuracy, and at least I didn't have to pay an inflated price...
Coincidentally, my club announced a .22 benchrest match series... so things escalated quickly from plinking to target gun, and now it has a KRG Bravo stock, and 8-32x glass... hoping to get it out to zero next week.
Coincidentally, my club announced a .22 benchrest match series... so things escalated quickly from plinking to target gun, and now it has a KRG Bravo stock, and 8-32x glass... hoping to get it out to zero next week.
#6159
But... who is buying factory ammo right now? By the Power of Greyskull, stop shooting for a few months and buy reloading equipment. The only thing you can't find right now are primers, and they'll be back in stock and at regular prices by late-summer. You must be mad to want to plink heavy with factory ammo? Are you made of money?
My go-to .308 plinking load is LC brass and Xtreme 110gr plated (for .30 carbine) and some amount of RL10x or H110 or Win748 or whatever is cheapest for around 2200fps... 3" or so groups at 100yds and right at .20/rd. I could get that price down a little by just using .308 range pick-up brass, but I'm a snob and nothing touches my AR10 except pure Lake City 'Merica!
Those 110's shoot better than PMC Bronze (the cheapest brass-case .308 you can buy) and do just as well as cheap .308/7.62 like Fiocci/S&B/WinWB/Magtech that costs $1/rd normal prices. I've bought PMC Bronze in the past few years at like $16/box, and it's my "break-in" and 'get on paper" ammo for .308, but it's total ****.