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Old 03-04-2021, 09:51 AM
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Originally Posted by Erat
Wanted to buy some 9mm yesterday. Only way they would sell me a box is if I bought a gun... Man times are tough.

Guess I ought to get used to my new gun.


In all seriousness, I've always wanted a CZ. Finally found one I wanted in stock somewhere when I was in the market.
Beautiful Rami you got. I'm a bit of a CZ fan girl. Love the polymer hammer fired P series of guns and have been very interested in picking up a P01 at some point.
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Old 03-05-2021, 08:46 AM
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Where are you guys buying ammo these days? The places I used to buy it in person are out (Walmart, Rural King) and Sportsman's Guide is out of stock on almost everything. I see Cheaper Than Dirt still has some availability. Are there better choices before I mash the buy button? Mostly looking for range ammo and haven't bought in several years.
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Old 03-05-2021, 08:54 AM
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Originally Posted by sixshooter
Where are you guys buying ammo these days? The places I used to buy it in person are out (Walmart, Rural King) and Sportsman's Guide is out of stock on almost everything. I see Cheaper Than Dirt still has some availability. Are there better choices before I mash the buy button? Mostly looking for range ammo and haven't bought in several years.
You either have to ante up and pay the insane prices on gun broker or sign up for every backorder/stock notification you can find. And then order within minutes of getting an email. I'm still getting the stock notifications from places sporadically and many times the prices aren't too bad if you can wait.
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Old 03-05-2021, 11:06 AM
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Originally Posted by sixshooter
Where are you guys buying ammo these days? The places I used to buy it in person are out (Walmart, Rural King) and Sportsman's Guide is out of stock on almost everything. I see Cheaper Than Dirt still has some availability. Are there better choices before I mash the buy button? Mostly looking for range ammo and haven't bought in several years.
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Old 03-05-2021, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by sixshooter
Where are you guys buying ammo these days?
I'm not...

I dug all my reloading gear out at the start of the recent 'troubles', and fortunately had a couple thousand primers leftover from who knows when. That's keeping me in .357, .44 mag and .45 colt. I can load .45 acp if I need to, but haven't been shooting much .45 acp lately. 9mm I'm just not shooting right now... can't replace it for sane prices. Recently picked up some more large pistol primers through contacts from someone that was selling off a large stash...

I'm also shooting .22, which I seem to be able to get somewhat regularly from local outlets.
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Old 03-05-2021, 12:45 PM
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Originally Posted by sixshooter
Where are you guys buying ammo these days?
I'm not, everything is totally fucked right now. Prices and availability are insane and have been since early 2020. I'm not going shooting much. I have a stash of a few thousand rounds each the calibers I shoot but I'm afraid to use up too much of it.
  • 22LR is like 15-20 cents a round right now, a little brick of it is like 100 bucks
  • 7.62x39 is 50 cents a round for steel case FMJ, if you can find it, stuff like SP is sold out permanently
  • handgun ammo is largely not found at any price
  • 5.56x45 is nearly a buck a round for M193 ball type
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Old 03-05-2021, 12:57 PM
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Originally Posted by AlwaysBroken
I'm not, everything is totally fucked right now. Prices and availability are insane and have been since early 2020. I'm not going shooting much. I have a stash of a few thousand rounds each the calibers I shoot but I'm afraid to use up too much of it.
  • 22LR is like 15-20 cents a round right now, a little brick of it is like 100 bucks
  • 7.62x39 is 50 cents a round for steel case FMJ, if you can find it, stuff like SP is sold out permanently
  • handgun ammo is largely not found at any price
  • 5.56x45 is nearly a buck a round for M193 ball type
Wow, guess I better break out some of the stores and sell. I have 1.5 crates of 7.62x39, as well as a couple thousand .22 and 9mm.
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Old 03-05-2021, 02:20 PM
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My son Austin is part owner of "Gun Geeks"
Gun Geeks – Quality services for gun enthusiasts.

He is BIG TIME into this stuff.
He said prices are dropping right now.
9mm was 40-50 box 3 weeks ago
It was offered at 35-40 box and selling at 30 last weekend...
If you really want to sell stuff do it now...
If you are looking for stuff wait another 6 weeks.
It may be much cheaper then.

He deep enough into this stuff that he recently had some 50 cal stuff that was worth $70 a ROUND!

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Old 03-05-2021, 02:21 PM
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I'm in the weird situation of having enough cash that selling some of my ammo reserves for a few thousand bucks won't really change my life.
I'm also in the weird situation of not having enough cash that I would feel ok spending 900 bucks on a case of 45 acp or 5.56.
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Old 03-05-2021, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Dann0
Sorry, I spend more time on gun forums than I do here - I just assumed that everybody would know what the picture I posted was. Gotta remember this is a gun thread on a car forum. That's a Definitive Arms adjustable gas block for an AKM.

For those of you not versed on suppressing an AK platform, there are two main problems - the 14x1LH barrel threading is not bore-centric, and the long-piston design is overgassed from the factory for reasons of soviet reliability, comrade. Suppressing it makes it even more overgassed resulting in it spitting in your face with every shot as the excess gas blows out the charging handle slot in the dust cover. The solution to problem one is form 1 SBR it and just cut bore-centric threads in a more common western threading, probably 1/2x28. The solution to problem two is an adjustable gas block. The more common adjustable gas piston is not desirable because it just vents the excess gas straight into the action (and out the side, and into your face).

Now you know.

Note: there is a suppressor made specifically for the AK without doing any of the above, the Dead Air Wolverine. For a plug and play solution it's pretty good but it's a compromise, especially if you plan on shooting subsonic.
Not sure if you are aware but Rifle Dynamics as well as JMAC also have adjustable AK gas blocks. Haven't been able to find much info on them though and the pictures on their site don't show much. But I personally think they are a bit more aesthetically appealing than the Definitive arms and the Rifle dynamics seems to be the easiest install of all 3 for end user. Only thing I don't know is if it's designed to be adjusted on the fly or if it's a one and done set screw type deal that gets carbon fused over time. Kinda think the RD and JMAC maybe the later but not sure.
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Old 03-06-2021, 02:30 PM
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I've suppressed a few AKs and I think
  • I think the definitive arms block is the only gas mod worth bothering with. The settings are easy and repeatable (ie, numbered settings with a detent that prevent movement) and it allows you to compensate for overgassing and undergassing (ie, subs). Nothing else comes close to offering that.
  • Trying to fit a can under a long handguard is a bad idea, especially if you're running the definitive arms block. Something that long (like the slr handguards) will block the gas adjustment or at least make it a pain in the *** to adjust
  • All the cans worth getting are at least 1.5 inches diameter, it's almost an industry standard. You're not going to get small diameter cans except in 22LR. For examples, Wolverine adapter is yuuuge diameter, nomad family is all 1 3/4 diameter an inch past the muzzle.
  • If you want to get a handgun can for ak use, the wolfman works with the jmac 2 chamber keymo brake and the 9mm bore gives a ton of room to avoid baffle strikes
  • I like the definitive arms block, and have it in one of my guns. It works great but there is a decent chance any AK will work fine without any gas mods if you use a low back pressure can. So basically avoid the SiCo Omega.
  • Any 30 cal can is good for ak use if they are concentric- check with a bore rod.

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Old 03-08-2021, 10:36 AM
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Thanks for the info on the ammo. I am still in sticker shock for the ammo that is actually available on ammoseek. I remember buying 9mm and 38 special for 8 or 9 dollars for a box of 50 for range plinking loads 15 years ago. Now I see them for 40 or 50 if available. Some calibers are completely unavailable or only have one choice.

Looks like most or all of my guns will have to stay in the safe for a while longer.
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Old 03-11-2021, 05:12 PM
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Yup, I've let everything collect dust for the last 6 months or so. Probably should've sold a few bricks of .22lr if they're really going for $100
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Old 03-11-2021, 08:29 PM
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Supply and prices are recovering, but it's slow.
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Old 03-19-2021, 10:21 PM
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Originally Posted by AlwaysBroken
Supply and prices are recovering, but it's slow.
Noticed this too. 5.56 was hovering around $1/round a couple months ago and it's down to $0.70 a round. 9mm is starting to slowly drop. Nature is healing.
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Old 04-16-2021, 09:08 AM
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Is there any downside to plinking with .308 tracers other than the fire risk? They are cheaper than regular rounds right now. New brass, made in America. I think they may be better to the gun than Wolf or other eastern European choices.
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Old 04-16-2021, 09:28 AM
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Tracers sometimes are less accurate due to the incindiary material not always being perfectly concentric, but otherwise they should be fine to shoot. You probably wouldn't notice any difference in accuracy in casual shooting.
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Old 04-16-2021, 11:10 AM
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On the subject of plinking, I had been looking for one of the Savage MKII FV-SR .22 bolt actions since I didn't have a bolt gun I could put my .22 can on. Out of stock everywhere for months, and used ones are bringing $400+ on Gunbroker... for a rifle with a $279 retail price that usually sells for ~ $230! Nothing similar was in stock anywhere, so I broke down and bought a Tikka T1x off the shelf at my LGS. They have a reputation for excellent accuracy, and at least I didn't have to pay an inflated price...

Coincidentally, my club announced a .22 benchrest match series... so things escalated quickly from plinking to target gun, and now it has a KRG Bravo stock, and 8-32x glass... hoping to get it out to zero next week.



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Originally Posted by sixshooter
Is there any downside to plinking with .308 tracers other than the fire risk? They are cheaper than regular rounds right now. New brass, made in America. I think they may be better to the gun than Wolf or other eastern European choices.
No downside except possible fire. Properly manufactured tracers of any caliber are designed to mimic whatever non-tracer milspec ammo they will be fired with... like 147gr FMJ 7.62x51 in this case. Contrary to popular belief, tracers place no additional wear on barrels as they don't ignite until they exit the muzzle.

But... who is buying factory ammo right now? By the Power of Greyskull, stop shooting for a few months and buy reloading equipment. The only thing you can't find right now are primers, and they'll be back in stock and at regular prices by late-summer. You must be mad to want to plink heavy with factory ammo? Are you made of money?

My go-to .308 plinking load is LC brass and Xtreme 110gr plated (for .30 carbine) and some amount of RL10x or H110 or Win748 or whatever is cheapest for around 2200fps... 3" or so groups at 100yds and right at .20/rd. I could get that price down a little by just using .308 range pick-up brass, but I'm a snob and nothing touches my AR10 except pure Lake City 'Merica!

Those 110's shoot better than PMC Bronze (the cheapest brass-case .308 you can buy) and do just as well as cheap .308/7.62 like Fiocci/S&B/WinWB/Magtech that costs $1/rd normal prices. I've bought PMC Bronze in the past few years at like $16/box, and it's my "break-in" and 'get on paper" ammo for .308, but it's total ****.
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I already have a zillion hobbies. Shooting time is hard to come by as it is; add in reloading and I'd never get to shoot at all.
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