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1993ka24det 10-16-2011 01:13 AM

Ya i cant use my 12 Ga Shotgun in numerous states because I have a 30 rnd drum on it...Gay

GeneSplicer 10-16-2011 08:58 AM


Originally Posted by elesjuan (Post 784045)
Winrar!!


Drop in auto sear for an AR-15. These sell for $8000 - $10,000, but you *can* find them cheaper. Pre-1981 drop in auto sears were legal to make, own, and operate yourself without registration. After 1981 they had to be registered and serialized however the BATF grandfathered Pre-81 sears. Problem is 99% of them aren't serialized and have no paperwork to prove they were made pre-81 so basically, you're fucked if caught with one because you can't prove it was made pre-81.

These laws are pretty fucking silly if you ask me. :jerkit: Go Go Gadget fucktards.

That's so screwed up a peice of metal would cost this much - same with the $10 stamped LL that looks like something from a soup can - now costs about the same as the DIAS...

BTW, if you don't have it - get it! Bet dam info cd I've had for the past 5 or more years... suprised the ATF hasn't made it a NFA "item" requiring a tax stamp - fucktards...

http://www.quarterbore.com/store/cd/ar15m16.htm

http://www.quarterbore.com/store/cd/...nsmanualcd.jpg

pusha 10-16-2011 07:35 PM


Originally Posted by GeneSplicer (Post 784238)
That's so screwed up a peice of metal would cost this much - same with the $10 stamped LL that looks like something from a soup can - now costs about the same as the DIAS...

LLs often break and repairs can be costly, if even possible (M60Joe is the best repairer).

The only NFA "machinegun" item that I'd fux with is a registered lower. DIAS aren't really the best route and LLs are just plain retarded.

rmcelwee 10-17-2011 12:41 AM

Got a new gun tonight (have not shot it yet). Ruger P90 .45ACP 7+1

(stock picture):

http://imagerepository.net/images/r/...-ruger-p90.jpg




Wikipedia:
The Ruger P series are a line of centerfire semi-automatic pistols made by Sturm, Ruger & Company. The P series pistols were designed for military, police, civilian self defense and recreational use. The designs are largely based on the Browning action found in the M1911 pistol, but with minor variations, generally related to the safety mechanism and the barrel-camblock interface. Reviews have considered them rugged, reliable, and strong, though this strength comes at the price of bulk and a blocky appearance.

pusha 10-17-2011 01:08 AM

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Those are a good value, even if the ammunition (in your example's case) isn't. Besides, hoodrats love them.

Attachment 186742

>dat trigger discipline.

mgeoffriau 10-17-2011 01:10 AM

Built like bricks, reliable, sketchy triggers, size and weight is excessive for capacity. Decent guns if you got it cheap. I prefer polymer (FNP-45), 1911, or if you really like big metal DA/SA pistols, 3rd gen S&W.

mgeoffriau 10-17-2011 01:12 AM

Wait, is that really only 7+1? My Kahr P45 is 6+1.

pusha 10-17-2011 01:14 AM


Originally Posted by mgeoffriau (Post 784493)
Wait, is that really only 7+1? My Kahr P45 is 6+1.

yes, it's single-stack.

pusha 10-17-2011 01:39 AM


Originally Posted by mgeoffriau (Post 784492)
Built like bricks, reliable, sketchy triggers, size and weight is excessive for capacity. Decent guns if you got it cheap. I prefer polymer (FNP-45), 1911, or if you really like big metal DA/SA pistols, 3rd gen S&W.

have you ever shot a smithed P220?

mgeoffriau 10-17-2011 09:35 AM

I've shot a P225, never a P220. Nothing wrong with them, though, just not my cup of tea.

chokeasphyxia 10-17-2011 10:56 AM

http://www.hornady.com/ammunition/zombiemax

elesjuan 10-17-2011 12:01 PM


Originally Posted by chokeasphyxia (Post 784561)

Awesome. Love how they felt the need to put a warning on the page..

"WARNING: THIS IS LIVE AMMUNITION. THIS IS NOT A TOY."

elesjuan 10-17-2011 03:02 PM


Originally Posted by elesjuan (Post 781179)
I've got it!!!!!!

Fuck fixed or deatch box magazines!!! They never mentioned anything about BELT FEED!! :D By my English that isn't fixed OR detachable!

Fuck California. I've yet to see a single reason to EVER live there.

http://jugrnot.com/321572_2265086574...21838026_n.jpg

:makeout:

EO2K 10-17-2011 03:03 PM

AR based, 11.5" barrel, no NFA stamp because... pistol?

http://www.guns.com/images/stories/October_2010/ns1.jpg

http://www.guns.com/video-franklin-a...-required.html


Really, the thing that makes it stand out isn't its furniture, it's how expertly it threads the legal needle.

There are three things that make it neither pistol nor rifle nor any other weapon (AOW). First, it has a forward pistol grip. This means that it is not intended to be fired single-handedly (FPS Russia notwithstanding). The reason it's not a short-barreled rifle (SBR) is that overall, the firearm's length is still over 26 inches with its buffer tube extension and and not concealable by ATF standards. They liken it to the Thompson Model 1927-A5 which also has a short barrel. But the barrel slides in at 11.5 inches, which brings it in under the AOW standard of having a 12-inch or longer barrel with an overall length of less than 26 inches.
Its not an AOW, its not a SBR, it's a 'firearm'

Franklin Armory is playing it safe with their padded buffer tube, but a cursory read of the law indicates that it should be legal to put a real stock on it provided it doesn't shorten the length of the firearm to under 26 inches:

"TITLE 18, PART I, CHAPTER 44, § 921, Definition (8) The term 'short-barreled rifle' means a rifle having one or more barrels less than sixteen inches in length and any weapon made from a rifle (whether by alteration, modification, or otherwise) if such weapon, as modified, has an overall length of less than twenty-six inches."

But we're not lawyers so would anyone like to confirm or deny this for us?
Though while I personally question the ballistics of a 5.56 (or 7.62, or .450BM...) fired out of a 11.5" barrel, this just looks insane. Franklin built my lower and they are about a 30 minute drive down hwy 101 from my place. I should go pay them a visit.

pusha 10-17-2011 04:06 PM

meh, not really impressed

mgeoffriau 10-17-2011 04:30 PM

What does that do that the Kel-Tec PLR-16 doesn't?

http://www.keltecweapons.com/our-guns/pistols/plr-16/

pusha 10-17-2011 04:31 PM

overall length, allows for use of foreskin apparently.

not that I care, I wouldn't fire .223 out of a barrel that short no how.

EO2K 10-17-2011 05:41 PM


Originally Posted by pusha (Post 784740)
not that I care, I wouldn't fire .223 out of a barrel that short no how.

+1.

http://counterstrikefox.freeservers.com/mv.htm

As one can see from the table, anything under 10" in length will not provide enough muzzle velocity to attain the best wounding capabilities of the 5.56x45 projectile. Anything lower, and the bullet will make a .22 caliber hole through the target, with relatively insignificant wound ballistics.
Can't verify the validity of the source, but there ya go.

Remember when I asked about the M1A earlier? I have no desire to own this Franklin beast, I just think its an interesting interpretation of the law. One of my shoulder surfing co-workers now wants one. Apparently he has significant fear of the 'zombie apocalypse' and sees this as a 'good investment' :facepalm:

I'm honestly not sure how I feel about all these 'zombie enthusiasts' getting into the hobby. I appreciate the growth of the shooting sports hobby in general, just not sure these are the people I want to share the range with.

elesjuan 10-17-2011 07:05 PM

http://www.westlakehardware.com/specialties/zombies

EO2K 10-17-2011 07:20 PM


Originally Posted by elesjuan (Post 784828)

Yeah, I saw a Hornady and Brownells are also jumping in on the game as well.

Marketing People: This is shit, please stop!


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