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pusha 10-17-2011 10:57 PM

gonna be liquidating some bullshit soon, something has caught my eye.

anyone here interested in spending fat loot on high-end ratchets?

mgeoffriau 10-18-2011 12:10 AM

Ratchets? What are we talking about, Snap-On, Wright, Armstrong, Facom?

pusha 10-18-2011 12:54 PM


elesjuan 10-18-2011 02:37 PM

I picture he found like a fucking tank somewhere.. lol

gearhead_318 10-18-2011 02:45 PM


Originally Posted by elesjuan (Post 785221)
I picture he found like a fucking tank somewhere.. lol

Start @ post #31
https://www.miataturbo.net/showthrea...t=60012&page=2

pusha 10-18-2011 05:08 PM

no, my current object of desire is something much better and not nearly as rough

rleete 10-18-2011 07:50 PM

I have some steel parts (not gun parts) that I want to blue. Recommend to me a decent cold bluing product. Anyone use any of these, and what did you think? I'm looking for a uniform blue color; not necessarily the absolute darkest, but just even.

pusha 10-19-2011 10:50 AM

I've never done it before, but this doesn't look bad for $17:

http://www.midwayusa.com/Product/897...-blue-2-oz-kit

elesjuan 10-19-2011 11:57 PM

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Local guy sold this for $550... Its a little short, but it'd fit my SBR Project and is already gas-piston......DAMN!

pusha 10-20-2011 12:14 AM

what a pile of shit

thagr81 us 10-20-2011 06:55 AM

You did go through all the proper paperwork to have that transferred right???

elesjuan 10-20-2011 02:58 PM

That is an Adams 7.5" pistol upper, which is a little short of what I'm looking for. For the purpose of this pistol/rifle I don't give a flying fuck about ballistics, I'm not going to be making 1000 yard or even 100 yard shots with it -- A 10.5" barrel will work perfectly fine. My last trip to the range I was shooting a Thompson contender pistol in .30/30 with what, a 10" barrel? Worked fine for me! Mostly I'm looking for a toy first, something I could murder squirrels with second, and a last resort defense firearm lastly.. Furthest thing from my mind is a range gun, considering I already have a 20" bull and 16" A1 AR.


Yeah, the tan furniture, silly ass sight, and flashlight made that gun look pretty gay. That crap can come off easily, however.

No. I didn't buy it. If he were selling the 11.5" barrel he has I'd have been all over it since I already have a paper'd pistol lower. ;)

EO2K 10-20-2011 03:17 PM

Hey Pushy, you seem to have a pretty good handle on the M1A thing, care to comment?

Originally Posted by EO2K (Post 781154)
This year I'd like to pick up a Springfield M1A but getting one over here is quite a trick. What's the REAL skinny on the M1A? Assuming factory ammo, what kind of practical accuracy difference would you see between a Standard, Loaded, National Match and Super Match? Where is the features vs cost price break? What features are must-have and what can I do without? This will be my first and probably only M1A, so I'd prefer not to get a bottom of the barrel Standard/Basic model, but to the other extreme, I don't want mall ninja railz all over the place, so no SOCOMII for me. I want reliability, accuracy and longevity. I'd prefer a wood stock purely for aesthetics. <snip> blah blah blah... </snip>

What say you?


rleete 10-20-2011 06:03 PM


Originally Posted by pusha (Post 785553)
I've never done it before, but this doesn't look bad for $17:

http://www.midwayusa.com/Product/897...-blue-2-oz-kit

Bought a bottle of the Casey Birch stuff at the local sporting goods store. I'll make a thread with pics when I get around to using it.

pusha 10-20-2011 11:24 PM


Originally Posted by EO2K (Post 786011)
Hey Pushy, you seem to have a pretty good handle on the M1A thing, care to comment?

I'm surprised that I missed this... lol


This year I'd like to pick up a Springfield M1A but getting one over here is quite a trick. What's the REAL skinny on the M1A? Assuming factory ammo, what kind of practical accuracy difference would you see between a Standard, Loaded, National Match and Super Match? Where is the features vs cost price break? What features are must-have and what can I do without? This will be my first and probably only M1A, so I'd prefer not to get a bottom of the barrel Standard/Basic model, but to the other extreme, I don't want mall ninja railz all over the place, so no SOCOMII for me. I want reliability, accuracy and longevity. I'd prefer a wood stock purely for aesthetics. <snip> blah blah blah... </snip>

What say you?
I started to make an entire chart, but the two "tiers" share many common parts so it's pointless. I'll give you the Cliff's:

Buy the National Match. The Super Match is a great rifle but my old man was able to shoot a sub-moa group (believe it or not, he did it once) with his National Match.* He used to shoot his National Match over his M25 White Feather (not sure if these are still in production) if that's any indication. Both the Super Match and National Match have glass bedded stocks, NM sights, the same gas system, trigger, etc. but the Super Match typically has a heavier barrel. You can't go wrong with the National Match unless you've got to have the Super Match as my old man did when they first came out.

My dad's well-worn Super Match was noticeably heavier than my old beater "pre-ban" (lugged) Standard. He traded it for a Socom 16 when they first came out, so go figure on that one. He's been around them for ~45 years so I just take his advice and he would say to get the National Match.

Also, in California, don't y'all have to have some sort of dummy flash suppressor or someshit jazz?

There are a few other shops producing quality M14/M1A rifles using GI parts. Fulton Armory comes to mind but there are others too. I would just go with the SA as they offer a good value (some knock their QC but I haven't had an issue).

*Yes, before anyone tries to call me out on this, I know there are many different factors such as loads, range conditions, etc but I still watched him do it (it was like watching someone bowl a 300, albeit quicker). The stars were definitely aligned that afternoon.

rleete 10-22-2011 12:23 PM

Bought a bottle of Birchwood Casey Perma Blue. Tried it today, on a piece of steel, unknown composition. It was formerly a piece of a machine I made at work, and then scrapped out, so it's probably just plain cold rolled steel. Anyway, results are not very good at this point.

Part was polished on my buffing wheel, cleaned thoroughly in alcohol and blued as per instructions. Finish is light, and not very durable. It says to let it sit overnight, so I'll try that and redo it. I also do not have steel wool, so I'm polishing/burnishing it in between coats with a scotchbrite pad. But, at this point its not dark enough, and pretty much rubs right off.


Edit: Second coat is darker and more uniform. May take 3 or 4 coats to get a decent finish. I guess I should sprung the extra couple of bucks for the premium stuff.

elesjuan 10-22-2011 07:10 PM

Darn that sucks. I hoped you had better success with it than this...


I'm going to try Gun-Kote bake on from brownells:

http://www.brownells.com/.aspx/pid=4...RE-GUN-FINISH#

A little inconvenient because you need an oven to bake it, but isn't recommended to use an oven you're going to cook with... Bought an electric oven off Craigslist for $40.00 to try the stuff out and future powdercoatings. From what I can see the manufacture says the only way to remove it is media blasting, and is safe for all parts of a firearm. If we can ever get our first AK assembled we're going to slop that shit all over the entire rifle inside and out.

rleete 10-23-2011 09:56 AM

I tried some things I found online last night. Basically restarted from scratch.

First, I repolished it. Then, I heated it in a toaster oven. Hot enough to be really uncomfortable to hold in your hand, but not hot enough to actually burn. I then slathered it with the solution using a hobby paint brush - the kind for plastic model kits. I really slopped it on.

Let it sit for about 2 minutes, where it started looking really bad. All rusty and streaky. Next, I polished it with fine steel wool, using more solution. This brought out a nice luster, and evened up the finish. Apparently, heat is key, because this time it looked like I expected. I let it sit ovenight.

Finish is not quite as dark as I'd like, but presentable. It's not very even, but I plan on trying another coat, and I think that may do it. I also will let it sit longer before trying to polish it out, to give it more time to work.

Pics posted when I find the damn cable for the camera.

pusha 10-23-2011 08:42 PM

I had my first FTE with my Colt Lightweight Sporter today. I was shooting 55gr Tula ball ammo so I'll go ahead and blame that as I immediately ran around 200 more rounds through it without issue.

Maybe I should finally clean it?

elesjuan 10-25-2011 11:47 PM

NEVER!!

Only AR cleaning I've ever done is boresnake and oiled barrel & bcg.


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