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Old 03-30-2017, 04:39 AM   #241  
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so whats the difference with the ABS vs non abs hubs? From my local dealership, the non abs are $30 more expensive. $130.00 each yikes!
Buy the ABS ones and push out the ring, same deal! Also, I recall back tracing oem hubs and cross referenced them to NTN at some point. Haven't seen failure on those up to date.
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Also, I recall back tracing oem hubs and cross referenced them to NTN at some point. Haven't seen failure on those up to date.
Cool story, I broke an OEM hub years ago. Suggesting that OEM hubs don't break is irresponsible.
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I broke 2 OEM rears.
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There are four different shops working on front hubs, some of which are public and/or released already. No high strength direct replacement rears for 4x100 and OEM halfshafts in the works that I know of.
At least one of which remains private for now. Of the ones I have seen, I think there is still some work to do.

On one hand, it's great that the platform is popular enough and has a customer base willing to spend the needed dollars to embiggen the performance envelope. I'm adopting a wait and see on front hub designs.
OTOH, I dread having to throw my hat into the ring if the current crop does not bear fruit. Just looked up the etymology of that phrase, thanks Ted. Miixed metaphors FTW. Anyway, it would be a big, expensive project. But as of today, there is still no cost effective solution to resist the now common 1.3 on street legal tires and 1.7g from Hoosiers. Add to those loads, the exploding (too soon?) popularity of club level endurance racing and it's a crisis point for the platform's development.
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Old 08-30-2017, 12:51 PM   #245  
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When will your new hubs be shipping, and how much will they cost?
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What happened to the mr2 spyder hub info I posted? Is there censorship going on that we should be aware of?
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Mods broke MR-S hub discussion into a new thread.
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When will your new hubs be shipping, and how much will they cost?
Tomorrow, I promise. $19 each.
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$19 is kinda steep, will you be offering a group buy or sponsorship opportunity?
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Ahhh - I was wondering. Thanks guys
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$19 is kinda steep, will you be offering a group buy or sponsorship opportunity?
Both. Played with the right coupon code, a few lucky customers will actually get paid to use our stuff. That's the way it should be right?
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I'm holding out until they come with free Tecnas vouchers.
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Nice to see you turning over a new leaf, Emilio. I'll be sure to be heartbroken if you don't meet these promises.
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There are four different shops working on front hubs, some of which are public and/or released already. At least one of which remains private for now. Of the ones I have seen, I think there is still some work to do.

On one hand, it's great that the platform is popular enough and has a customer base willing to spend the needed dollars to embiggen the performance envelope. I'm adopting a wait and see on front hub designs.
OTOH, I dread having to throw my hat into the ring if the current crop does not bear fruit. Just looked up the etymology of that phrase, thanks Ted. Miixed metaphors FTW. Anyway, it would be a big, expensive project. But as of today, there is still no cost effective solution to resist the now common 1.3 on street legal tires and 1.7g from Hoosiers. Add to those loads, the exploding (too soon?) popularity of club level endurance racing and it's a crisis point for the platform's development.
I like the partnerships you formed in offering SuperMiata products. Would it be possible to partner up with one of the more promising designs, offer input and testing in exchange for private labeling and exclusive rights to sell the product? If I were a designer/manufacturer I would value such a partnership.
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We'll see.
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Hubs, breaking under track use, escape liability as they are "not intended" for racing or track. Hubs built for the track lose that protection. I am sure that Emilio went down this road with the development of the 6UL Probably one of the reasons for any of the major groups not jumping on this needed component. Sufficient demand has always been there.
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Lost another rear hub yesterday. The current hubs were installed in February 2016 and have ~150 track hours in a car that does 1.2-1.3Gs in the turns.

This time, it popped on track but I retained the wheel -- it's good to be lucky. Car isn't driveable though (engine torque spins the center of the hub, but not the wheel -- sounds awful).

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Once a year, whether you think you need to or not.
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Once a year, whether you think you need to or not.
We have been swapping them at 2-3 years or 75~100hrs. But yeah, once a year is practical and realistic. If this were aircraft, the part would be timed out much sooner. If it were a high level pro race team it would be swapped every race.

There are new options in the works but no ETA as yet.
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