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Originally Posted by comradefks View Post
Does Dorman have a solution for the front hubs that would save some coin too? Didn't see it on Rock Auto's site or NAPA for that matter.
Mazda's front hubs are reboxed NTNs, available for ~$100 in a few places. You can occasionally find Timkens for ~$65, and those are reboxed NTNs as well, but the Timkens may or may not have the ABS ring in the correct place and availability is spotty. I have yet to experiment with anything cheaper than the $65 Timkens.
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Basically I've come over to the camp of "If something is a reliability problem on the track, just ask Andrew and do what he says".
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From where? I am showing $44 per at Napa.
Resale discount. Perks of running a side automotive business. :-)
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Rock Auto $21.79 + $15.43 ground shipping to my location. Seems like I almost never find Rock Auto to be the cheapest overall for anything. Big orders don't usually help either because most every individual part gets its own shipping charge shipped from different locations across the country.
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Originally Posted by bbundy View Post
Rock Auto $21.79 + $15.43 ground shipping to my location. Seems like I almost never find Rock Auto to be the cheapest overall for anything. Big orders don't usually help either because most every individual part gets its own shipping charge shipped from different locations across the country.
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What hubs are people getting when they order the Dorman hubs?
I ordered two hubs at once from Amazon and here is what I got.
I should have an answer for you in a couple of days, because I just ordered the same thing from Amazon.
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Originally Posted by bbundy View Post
What hubs are people getting when they order the Dorman hubs?
I ordered two hubs at once from Amazon and here is what I got.

One on the left says made in Taiwan has OEM looking studs with 1990-1993 knurl diameter and two threaded holes in the flange.

One on the right says made in China has black studs with 1994+ knurl diameter and no threaded holes in the flange.
That's dissapointing, The 8 I bought from amazon two weeks ago were all the Taiwan variety. I didn't know they were for the smaller studs. Not a huge deal as the smaller knurl ARP studs still don't break.
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Originally Posted by Savington View Post
Mazda's front hubs are reboxed NTNs, available for ~$100 in a few places. You can occasionally find Timkens for ~$65, and those are reboxed NTNs as well, but the Timkens may or may not have the ABS ring in the correct place and availability is spotty. I have yet to experiment with anything cheaper than the $65 Timkens.
Any chance you have a part number for the NTN and/or the Timkens?
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When this is all figured out, I'm going to make a thread with all the part numbers compiled that I have. Before I do that, I need to get some verification that the below is accurate for ARP wheel studs:

ARP 100-7719 89-93 all corners, front 94-05
ARP 100-7720 rear 94-05 (and where hubs have been replaced since -94)
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Originally Posted by emilio700 View Post
That's dissapointing, The 8 I bought from amazon two weeks ago were all the Taiwan variety. I didn't know they were for the smaller studs. Not a huge deal as the smaller knurl ARP studs still don't break.
Amazons $32.34 with free shipping is less than Rock Autoís $37.22 including shipping. Napaonline shows them in stock for $48.59 at the Local Napa store. If I hadnít ridden my bike to work today I would go see what version Napa had in stock at lunch.
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Experience w/Raybestos? These are $57 on Amazon Prime:

Rebestos 713155 Rebestos 713155
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Originally Posted by comradefks View Post
Any chance you have a part number for the NTN and/or the Timkens?
Timken: 513152 nonABS, 513155 ABS

NTN: W0133-1834777 nonABS, W0133-1599959 ABS
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Originally Posted by Scrappy Jack View Post
When this is all figured out, I'm going to make a thread with all the part numbers compiled that I have. Before I do that, I need to get some verification that the below is accurate for ARP wheel studs:

ARP 100-7719 89-93 all corners, front 94-05
ARP 100-7720 rear 94-05 (and where hubs have been replaced since -94)
Correct. 7719 is all fronts and 90-93 original rears (plus some Dorman hubs), 7720 is 94-05 rears or all OEM replacement rears.
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Originally Posted by Ski_Lover View Post
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I suspect it's probably a Chinese-made version of the NTN/Timken. The ABS ring is in the wrong place as well.

The Japanese-made NTNs have green wheel studs.
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Ok I just went to the local Napa. Quite an adventure actually because of the I5 bridge collapse over the Skagit river and 70,000 cars worth of daily traffic being transferred to surface streets! The hub they had was Identical to the Taiwan version of the Dorman 930-550 hub I got from Amazon but packaged in a Napa box. It uses 1990-93 studs.
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Bah... I ordered parts 2 weeks too early. I've got Taiwan dorman hubs and 94+ ARP studs sitting here not doing me any good. Guess I need to order 90-93 ARPs. Anyone need a set of 94+ rear studs? (1 set = enough for both rears)
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Originally Posted by bbundy View Post
What hubs are people getting when they order the Dorman hubs? I ordered two hubs at once from Amazon and here is what I got.

One on the left says made in Taiwan has OEM looking studs with 1990-1993 knurl diameter and two threaded holes in the flange.

One on the right says made in China has black studs with 1994+ knurl diameter and no threaded holes in the flange.
Originally Posted by Scrappy Jack View Post
I should have an answer for you in a couple of days, because I just ordered the same thing from Amazon.
I got the same damn thing: one of each.

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Bah... I ordered parts 2 weeks too early. I've got Taiwan dorman hubs and 94+ ARP studs sitting here not doing me any good. Guess I need to order 90-93 ARPs. Anyone need a set of 94+ rear studs? (1 set = enough for both rears)
Ha! I did something similar. Before I realized there was a difference, I ordered 4 sets of 100-7720 (94+ rears), not realizing there were different part numbers front and rear.
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You guys that ordered studs from us, send em back and I'll swap.
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You can also use the f-body ARP studs in place of the 90-93s. Somehow it's significantly cheaper for 5 f-body studs than it is for 4 Miata ones.

Part number is 100-7708.
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Originally Posted by njn63 View Post
You can also use the f-body ARP studs in place of the 90-93s. Somehow it's significantly cheaper for 5 f-body studs than it is for 4 Miata ones.

Part number is 100-7708.
haha, related but I did the same thing with my speed6 when I had it. took me some time to find the info I needed, but I too found out the f-body studs fit the hubs.

guess I should check my hubs I have in storage due to this thread.
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I'm swapping the hubs for new OEM Mazda as the current ones have been on the car ever since it rolled out of the factory.

There are no visibile signs or anything, it would be nice to get them x-rayed, but who cares.

I am having the hubs sanded down very slighly (2/100th) so you can actually slip them in and out of the bearings by hand, without destroying the bearings. I had that done a while ago so I'm not replacing bearings this time.
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