miataturbo.net-like debauchery thread (about the ND or something)
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Makes me glad my daily gets 48 mpg so I don't feel guilty hooning in the Miata constantly.
The cool thing is that I averaged 30 mpg on the way down to MRLS. Probably could do better when I get the cruise control installed.
The cool thing is that I averaged 30 mpg on the way down to MRLS. Probably could do better when I get the cruise control installed.
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Gordon thanks for that straight-on rear shot. I have never looked at it from that angle and... I don't like that view.
Love the rest of it though. I feel like its more of a natural progression from the NB in the nose, almost like the bloaty-looking NC never existed.
Love the rest of it though. I feel like its more of a natural progression from the NB in the nose, almost like the bloaty-looking NC never existed.
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As someone who has actually designed a car, I'm going to give Derek Jenkins and crew some serious latitude, as these guys need to satisfy not only U.S. corporate but Japan too. THAT is a tall order for something as petty as a shift ****, let alone and entire car.
The ND is a wider car, which is why I think the designers pinched the back and put the taillights closer together. They're fooling the eye into thinking that you're not looking at a squat, wide pug of a car.
Bottom line for me is this is my favorite MX-5. By far. Under the skin they're doing what Porsche has done for decades, which is improve on a good design. Outside they've put a modern skin on the car with some classic references, and dropped 100Kg.
Finally, all you guys who say it looks like a BMW, or BRZ, or Jaguar (whatever)...good cars share proper proportions. There's only so much change you can do to a car to make it look good, without making it look wrong. FWIW if the 250TR came out now, it would be universally panned as ugly. Designs build on other designs, and the reference to other cars is part of why people say, "Oh, they did it better than XYZ."
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Because legal and DOT.
As someone who has actually designed a car, I'm going to give Derek Jenkins and crew some serious latitude, as these guys need to satisfy not only U.S. corporate but Japan too. THAT is a tall order for something as petty as a shift ****, let alone and entire car.
The ND is a wider car, which is why I think the designers pinched the back and put the taillights closer together. They're fooling the eye into thinking that you're not looking at a squat, wide pug of a car.
Bottom line for me is this is my favorite MX-5. By far. Under the skin they're doing what Porsche has done for decades, which is improve on a good design. Outside they've put a modern skin on the car with some classic references, and dropped 100Kg.
Finally, all you guys who say it looks like a BMW, or BRZ, or Jaguar (whatever)...good cars share proper proportions. There's only so much change you can do to a car to make it look good, without making it look wrong. FWIW if the 250TR came out now, it would be universally panned as ugly. Designs build on other designs, and the reference to other cars is part of why people say, "Oh, they did it better than XYZ."
As someone who has actually designed a car, I'm going to give Derek Jenkins and crew some serious latitude, as these guys need to satisfy not only U.S. corporate but Japan too. THAT is a tall order for something as petty as a shift ****, let alone and entire car.
The ND is a wider car, which is why I think the designers pinched the back and put the taillights closer together. They're fooling the eye into thinking that you're not looking at a squat, wide pug of a car.
Bottom line for me is this is my favorite MX-5. By far. Under the skin they're doing what Porsche has done for decades, which is improve on a good design. Outside they've put a modern skin on the car with some classic references, and dropped 100Kg.
Finally, all you guys who say it looks like a BMW, or BRZ, or Jaguar (whatever)...good cars share proper proportions. There's only so much change you can do to a car to make it look good, without making it look wrong. FWIW if the 250TR came out now, it would be universally panned as ugly. Designs build on other designs, and the reference to other cars is part of why people say, "Oh, they did it better than XYZ."
Amen
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From: Fake Virginia
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I didn't really see anything fake in the picture other than the jut, which is useful in low speed crashes. its not that nice to look at, but it might save you when little Brittney is texting in stop & go traffic.
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All this talk about turning 360 degrees? If you were looking at the car and saw the rear end and turned 360 degrees to walk away, you would walk directly into the car. A 360* "reversal" from the original car would have seen an initial car with key only entry, followed by a car with keyless only entry, and would have come back to a car with a key only entry.
The correct term is "did a complete 180". In this case, "a complete 360" is an exaggeration of the term, which ironically means the exact opposite of the term being exaggerated. I was going to let it go as trolling (it looks like niklas has it figured out) but "I can't stands for this no more!"
The correct term is "did a complete 180". In this case, "a complete 360" is an exaggeration of the term, which ironically means the exact opposite of the term being exaggerated. I was going to let it go as trolling (it looks like niklas has it figured out) but "I can't stands for this no more!"
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Let's keep the level a clear notch over the Mnet overexplaineverythingorthenoobswillflameus.
How will you bolt in a rollbar on the ND?
Similar to the NC or even worse?
The fastback fixed coupé will not have that problem of course, but that one will not be the volume.
How will you bolt in a rollbar on the ND?
Similar to the NC or even worse?
The fastback fixed coupé will not have that problem of course, but that one will not be the volume.
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