Yeah, if it isn't a Mazda press release, it deserves zero attention.

 

I said that about nikonrumor.com and they were nearly spot on with the specs of teh just released D750.

Including the name that doesn't match the nomenclature.

 

Maybe mazda just really likes this forum, and they want to ensure its existence for decades to come.

 

2.0 delayed one year, US introduction delayed one year...

 

Canikon can eat it, Fuji X system is the future. (that D750 looks amazing)

Mnet folded faster than origami paper when the body reveal happened. We're not that popular. :v

 

It's about taxes.

Most of Europe *doubles* the cost of fuel with taxes or more. The UK charges $3.56 (current exchange rates) in fuel tax per US gallon with a 20% VAT on top of that. Germany charges like $7.50. This makes high fuel-efficiency diesels more attractive, especially since a lot of these countries have at least slightly lower tax rates on diesel than on gas.

Empirically, it would appear that if fuel cost is not a major consideration then consumers prefer gasoline engines to diesels, but when you artificially increase the fuel prices by a huge margin then the preference switches.

Personally, I have no clue why anyone would actually want a diesel in a car. Sure, they make great low end torque, but just as it's getting interesting you hit the redline and need to shift. It's like driving big old American V8s around -- you know, the 350s in the 1980s that made 320 lb-ft of torque and 150 hp. Yuck, no thanks.

I *do* like the diesel in my truck, it works great for towing.

Why are we talking about diesels in a thread about the ND, anyway? Mazda would be idiots to put a diesel in it.

--Ian

 

Except if they did put a 130hp engine in it, it wouldnt sell. And the reason we exist for the NA/NB is that they sold like hot cakes which makes them cheap enough now for us to abuse the **** out of them.

 

I'll be abusing the **** out of my ND when i get it.

 

Yeah, with ~130hp you will have to abuse it all the time just to get anywhere.

Kidding. If it doesn't have at least 170+ horsepower, I would be truly surprised and disappointed.

 

No, that's the whole point.

Being able to redline, redline, redline everywhere. Abusing. Full throttle. Just in traffic.

That's the /whole reason/ the Miata (stock) is fun.

 

There IS a lot to be said for the whole "slow car fast" idea, but for ~$27,000+ in 2015, i'm gonna need that ~175hp 2.0l.

 

They also delayed the release a bunch of times because they couldn't meet emissions (or at least that was the rumor I heard).

I didn't hear about those issues but I kinda lost interest after I bought a car in February. Guess I made the right choice.

 

I quit!

 

oh so they are putting a nemesis in it?

 

No, it's going to be a turbodiesel. At least that's what I heard.

 

you missed the joke, but what you did works too.

 

True, but this also is what can make people harp on horsepower (see FRS)

 

What's your point?

If it had 200 horsepower, people would want 250. If it had 250, people would want 300. Etc. Keep going until you end up with the Hellcat. A huge five thousand pound tank with 707 horsepower you can never, ever use without go to jail.

Look at all the Miatas that get powered up here and basically stop being driven. 150,000 mile cars that don't see 10,000 miles in the five years after a turbo. Those that get sold.

Fun is what keeps cars fun, what keeps people wanting to drive them every day. Tenths of a second suspension and huge power usually end up as cars that get bragged about more than driven. There's a reason for that. Getting close to the limit as much as possible is fun.

 

I dunno, i put 700 miles on my red car this last weekend. Plus my blue one is daily driven 500 miles a week... 100% fun no matter what car.

What makes a car fun is personal preference. What makes a Miata fun is the simplicity.

 

New Miata should make infinity horsepowers and weigh zero pounds. If it doesnt Im going to be super pissed.