The Better Bilstein Ebay Coilover Thread
#1721
I'm constructing my bilsteins now and have questions for you experts:
1. Why are we bothering to replace the bump stop? The bumpstop on my MSM bilsteins look pretty much identical to the integra. Just slightly different shape.
2. Why then are people replacing the top rubber bushing with the leftover integra bump stop piece?
3. How are people glueing the: Coil Spring Isolator 9.6103G (Glued to underside of Maruha top hat)? That coil spring isolator feels like silicone and doesn't feel like it will be happy to be 'glued' to anything.
Why are we even bothering to use the intergra bump stops for the bump stop and the leftover piece for the upper rubber
1. Why are we bothering to replace the bump stop? The bumpstop on my MSM bilsteins look pretty much identical to the integra. Just slightly different shape.
2. Why then are people replacing the top rubber bushing with the leftover integra bump stop piece?
3. How are people glueing the: Coil Spring Isolator 9.6103G (Glued to underside of Maruha top hat)? That coil spring isolator feels like silicone and doesn't feel like it will be happy to be 'glued' to anything.
Why are we even bothering to use the intergra bump stops for the bump stop and the leftover piece for the upper rubber
#1723
Feedback on Bilstein Build
Hi All,
I've taken the plunge and started building my own Bilstein suspension setup. I've spent time reading through this thread as well as many others to try to get up to speed. I'm looking for feedback on my setup, so feel free to roast me if I've made any bonehead decisions. I'm putting these on an NA. I went with B8 Bilsteins and 450/300 because Sixshooter said it's "plush on the street" and I intend to use the car for spirited weekend driving and maaaaybe Autocross/HPDE down the road.
Parts:
Bilstein B8 Front shocks x2 24-065504
Bilstein B8 Rear shocks x2 24-065511
Integra Speedthane Bump Stops x4 310-3019-50
Energy Suspension Spring Isolaters x4 ENS-9-6103G
Allstar Coilover Sleeves x4 ALL64162
Allstar perches x4 ALL64180
NB Tophats x4
Rear Springs: QA1 300lb/in 7 inch springs x2
Front Springs: 450lb/in 6 inch springs x2
Home Depot Fender Washers 3/8in ID x8
Delrin Washers x4 70010828
For installation I cut the bumpstops into one main 36mm-ish section, and then two more remaining chunks to use as the upper and lower bushings. I ordered 5inch Allstar sleeves from Summit but the ones they sent were 7 inches. Regardless, I cut them to down to size so the sleeves end about 0.5 inches before the top of the shock body. Then with everything in hand I put it all together (hopefully in the correct order).
The final pic is the assembled shocks.
One question: should I return the fleabay 6 inch 450lb springs and purchase 7 inch springs? I thought I was being frugal when I purchased them, but now I realize that for effectively the same cost I could have an extra inch of travel. Or should I return everything and purchase 8 inch springs because I have the available length on the sleeves? I'm in Atlanta and it's about 30 min to drive to Summit Racing so I could have different springs same-day.
Any other feedback?
I've taken the plunge and started building my own Bilstein suspension setup. I've spent time reading through this thread as well as many others to try to get up to speed. I'm looking for feedback on my setup, so feel free to roast me if I've made any bonehead decisions. I'm putting these on an NA. I went with B8 Bilsteins and 450/300 because Sixshooter said it's "plush on the street" and I intend to use the car for spirited weekend driving and maaaaybe Autocross/HPDE down the road.
Parts:
Bilstein B8 Front shocks x2 24-065504
Bilstein B8 Rear shocks x2 24-065511
Integra Speedthane Bump Stops x4 310-3019-50
Energy Suspension Spring Isolaters x4 ENS-9-6103G
Allstar Coilover Sleeves x4 ALL64162
Allstar perches x4 ALL64180
NB Tophats x4
Rear Springs: QA1 300lb/in 7 inch springs x2
Front Springs: 450lb/in 6 inch springs x2
Home Depot Fender Washers 3/8in ID x8
Delrin Washers x4 70010828
For installation I cut the bumpstops into one main 36mm-ish section, and then two more remaining chunks to use as the upper and lower bushings. I ordered 5inch Allstar sleeves from Summit but the ones they sent were 7 inches. Regardless, I cut them to down to size so the sleeves end about 0.5 inches before the top of the shock body. Then with everything in hand I put it all together (hopefully in the correct order).
The final pic is the assembled shocks.
One question: should I return the fleabay 6 inch 450lb springs and purchase 7 inch springs? I thought I was being frugal when I purchased them, but now I realize that for effectively the same cost I could have an extra inch of travel. Or should I return everything and purchase 8 inch springs because I have the available length on the sleeves? I'm in Atlanta and it's about 30 min to drive to Summit Racing so I could have different springs same-day.
Any other feedback?
#1726
Ok cool. I measured the springs and I should be able to avoid coil bind. I'm going to start with these and then I'll swap if necessary, or if I decide to change the spring rates/ride height.
Ok thanks for the heads up, I just saw your post a few up. I'll swap out the lower bushing there for the stock one.
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I'm constructing my bilsteins now and have questions for you experts:
1. Why are we bothering to replace the bump stop? The bumpstop on my MSM bilsteins look pretty much identical to the integra. Just slightly different shape.
2. Why then are people replacing the top rubber bushing with the leftover integra bump stop piece?
Why are we even bothering to use the intergra bump stops for the bump stop and the leftover piece for the upper rubber
1. Why are we bothering to replace the bump stop? The bumpstop on my MSM bilsteins look pretty much identical to the integra. Just slightly different shape.
2. Why then are people replacing the top rubber bushing with the leftover integra bump stop piece?
Why are we even bothering to use the intergra bump stops for the bump stop and the leftover piece for the upper rubber
You are replacing your bump stop because you have new (to you, at least) shocks and your old bumpstop is all worn out, and putting your old shot to **** bumpstop on your new shocks is stupid.
#1733
So one of my front Hard S Bilsteins is blown, won't rebound. Didn't figure this out til I took the car apart. Anyone local to the Tampa area have used Hard S shocks on hand?
UPDATE - Picked up a Monroe strut after calling around 20 places, will use it temporarily til I can find a used Hard S Shock around me. I believe the Bilstein B6 and B8 are valved differently than the Hard S, otherwise I would buy them new.
The blown shocks isn't visibly leaking fluid, but it fails to rebound, and something metallic inside will rattle around when the shock is shaken. Be sure to check pre-owned Bilsteins for rebound before you buy them.
UPDATE - Picked up a Monroe strut after calling around 20 places, will use it temporarily til I can find a used Hard S Shock around me. I believe the Bilstein B6 and B8 are valved differently than the Hard S, otherwise I would buy them new.
The blown shocks isn't visibly leaking fluid, but it fails to rebound, and something metallic inside will rattle around when the shock is shaken. Be sure to check pre-owned Bilsteins for rebound before you buy them.
Last edited by HowPrayGame; 01-19-2019 at 06:03 PM.
#1734
Hi All,
I've taken the plunge and started building my own Bilstein suspension setup. I've spent time reading through this thread as well as many others to try to get up to speed. I'm looking for feedback on my setup, so feel free to roast me if I've made any bonehead decisions. I'm putting these on an NA. I went with B8 Bilsteins and 450/300 because Sixshooter said it's "plush on the street" and I intend to use the car for spirited weekend driving and maaaaybe Autocross/HPDE down the road.
Parts:
Bilstein B8 Front shocks x2 24-065504
Bilstein B8 Rear shocks x2 24-065511
Integra Speedthane Bump Stops x4 310-3019-50
Energy Suspension Spring Isolaters x4 ENS-9-6103G
Allstar Coilover Sleeves x4 ALL64162
Allstar perches x4 ALL64180
NB Tophats x4
Rear Springs: QA1 300lb/in 7 inch springs x2
Front Springs: 450lb/in 6 inch springs x2
Home Depot Fender Washers 3/8in ID x8
Delrin Washers x4 70010828
For installation I cut the bumpstops into one main 36mm-ish section, and then two more remaining chunks to use as the upper and lower bushings. I ordered 5inch Allstar sleeves from Summit but the ones they sent were 7 inches. Regardless, I cut them to down to size so the sleeves end about 0.5 inches before the top of the shock body. Then with everything in hand I put it all together (hopefully in the correct order).
The final pic is the assembled shocks.
One question: should I return the fleabay 6 inch 450lb springs and purchase 7 inch springs? I thought I was being frugal when I purchased them, but now I realize that for effectively the same cost I could have an extra inch of travel. Or should I return everything and purchase 8 inch springs because I have the available length on the sleeves? I'm in Atlanta and it's about 30 min to drive to Summit Racing so I could have different springs same-day.
Any other feedback?
I've taken the plunge and started building my own Bilstein suspension setup. I've spent time reading through this thread as well as many others to try to get up to speed. I'm looking for feedback on my setup, so feel free to roast me if I've made any bonehead decisions. I'm putting these on an NA. I went with B8 Bilsteins and 450/300 because Sixshooter said it's "plush on the street" and I intend to use the car for spirited weekend driving and maaaaybe Autocross/HPDE down the road.
Parts:
Bilstein B8 Front shocks x2 24-065504
Bilstein B8 Rear shocks x2 24-065511
Integra Speedthane Bump Stops x4 310-3019-50
Energy Suspension Spring Isolaters x4 ENS-9-6103G
Allstar Coilover Sleeves x4 ALL64162
Allstar perches x4 ALL64180
NB Tophats x4
Rear Springs: QA1 300lb/in 7 inch springs x2
Front Springs: 450lb/in 6 inch springs x2
Home Depot Fender Washers 3/8in ID x8
Delrin Washers x4 70010828
For installation I cut the bumpstops into one main 36mm-ish section, and then two more remaining chunks to use as the upper and lower bushings. I ordered 5inch Allstar sleeves from Summit but the ones they sent were 7 inches. Regardless, I cut them to down to size so the sleeves end about 0.5 inches before the top of the shock body. Then with everything in hand I put it all together (hopefully in the correct order).
The final pic is the assembled shocks.
One question: should I return the fleabay 6 inch 450lb springs and purchase 7 inch springs? I thought I was being frugal when I purchased them, but now I realize that for effectively the same cost I could have an extra inch of travel. Or should I return everything and purchase 8 inch springs because I have the available length on the sleeves? I'm in Atlanta and it's about 30 min to drive to Summit Racing so I could have different springs same-day.
Any other feedback?
#1735
Hi All,
I've taken the plunge and started building my own Bilstein suspension setup. I've spent time reading through this thread as well as many others to try to get up to speed. I'm looking for feedback on my setup, so feel free to roast me if I've made any bonehead decisions. I'm putting these on an NA. I went with B8 Bilsteins and 450/300 because Sixshooter said it's "plush on the street" and I intend to use the car for spirited weekend driving and maaaaybe Autocross/HPDE down the road.
Parts:
Bilstein B8 Front shocks x2 24-065504
Bilstein B8 Rear shocks x2 24-065511
Integra Speedthane Bump Stops x4 310-3019-50
Energy Suspension Spring Isolaters x4 ENS-9-6103G
Allstar Coilover Sleeves x4 ALL64162
Allstar perches x4 ALL64180
NB Tophats x4
Rear Springs: QA1 300lb/in 7 inch springs x2
Front Springs: 450lb/in 6 inch springs x2
Home Depot Fender Washers 3/8in ID x8
Delrin Washers x4 70010828
For installation I cut the bumpstops into one main 36mm-ish section, and then two more remaining chunks to use as the upper and lower bushings. I ordered 5inch Allstar sleeves from Summit but the ones they sent were 7 inches. Regardless, I cut them to down to size so the sleeves end about 0.5 inches before the top of the shock body. Then with everything in hand I put it all together (hopefully in the correct order).
The final pic is the assembled shocks.
One question: should I return the fleabay 6 inch 450lb springs and purchase 7 inch springs? I thought I was being frugal when I purchased them, but now I realize that for effectively the same cost I could have an extra inch of travel. Or should I return everything and purchase 8 inch springs because I have the available length on the sleeves? I'm in Atlanta and it's about 30 min to drive to Summit Racing so I could have different springs same-day.
Any other feedback?
I've taken the plunge and started building my own Bilstein suspension setup. I've spent time reading through this thread as well as many others to try to get up to speed. I'm looking for feedback on my setup, so feel free to roast me if I've made any bonehead decisions. I'm putting these on an NA. I went with B8 Bilsteins and 450/300 because Sixshooter said it's "plush on the street" and I intend to use the car for spirited weekend driving and maaaaybe Autocross/HPDE down the road.
Parts:
Bilstein B8 Front shocks x2 24-065504
Bilstein B8 Rear shocks x2 24-065511
Integra Speedthane Bump Stops x4 310-3019-50
Energy Suspension Spring Isolaters x4 ENS-9-6103G
Allstar Coilover Sleeves x4 ALL64162
Allstar perches x4 ALL64180
NB Tophats x4
Rear Springs: QA1 300lb/in 7 inch springs x2
Front Springs: 450lb/in 6 inch springs x2
Home Depot Fender Washers 3/8in ID x8
Delrin Washers x4 70010828
For installation I cut the bumpstops into one main 36mm-ish section, and then two more remaining chunks to use as the upper and lower bushings. I ordered 5inch Allstar sleeves from Summit but the ones they sent were 7 inches. Regardless, I cut them to down to size so the sleeves end about 0.5 inches before the top of the shock body. Then with everything in hand I put it all together (hopefully in the correct order).
The final pic is the assembled shocks.
One question: should I return the fleabay 6 inch 450lb springs and purchase 7 inch springs? I thought I was being frugal when I purchased them, but now I realize that for effectively the same cost I could have an extra inch of travel. Or should I return everything and purchase 8 inch springs because I have the available length on the sleeves? I'm in Atlanta and it's about 30 min to drive to Summit Racing so I could have different springs same-day.
Any other feedback?
So one of my front Hard S Bilsteins is blown, won't rebound. Didn't figure this out til I took the car apart. Anyone local to the Tampa area have used Hard S shocks on hand?
UPDATE - Picked up a Monroe strut after calling around 20 places, will use it temporarily til I can find a used Hard S Shock around me. I believe the Bilstein B6 and B8 are valved differently than the Hard S, otherwise I would buy them new.
The blown shocks isn't visibly leaking fluid, but it fails to rebound, and something metallic inside will rattle around when the shock is shaken. Be sure to check pre-owned Bilsteins for rebound before you buy them.
UPDATE - Picked up a Monroe strut after calling around 20 places, will use it temporarily til I can find a used Hard S Shock around me. I believe the Bilstein B6 and B8 are valved differently than the Hard S, otherwise I would buy them new.
The blown shocks isn't visibly leaking fluid, but it fails to rebound, and something metallic inside will rattle around when the shock is shaken. Be sure to check pre-owned Bilsteins for rebound before you buy them.
#1736
custom valve b6
I have for sale car set of NB bilies equipped with shraders and custom valving - i can provide dyno graph from current valving setup.
They are brand new, only original spring seat is needed.
Feel free, i am looking for offer.
They are brand new, only original spring seat is needed.
Feel free, i am looking for offer.
Last edited by Lukas; 01-20-2019 at 12:05 PM. Reason: no photo