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Old 10-31-2013, 04:50 PM   #481
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I had air shocks on my LeMans in high school. They would leak down so whenever we wanted to go cruise the strip we had to stop at the gas station for $5.00 in gas (almost half a tank, lol) and air up the shocks.
ha! This reminded me of a '73 Capri 2600 I bought back in '84 when I was about 19. It came with staggered rims (still a popular thing to do back then). I don't remember the brand of air shocks it had but I do remember having to pump them up at the gas station whenever I'd take a certain fat friend with me to concerts at Arco arena to keep from rubbing the tires.
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That was a nice informative review.. the Racelands are on my 5 short list. davzway
Here, I'll spoon feed you before you bump more ancient threads.

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Here, I'll spoon feed you before you bump more ancient threads.
He's a new user who is spamming his way up to 10 posts so he can use the classifieds section.

Bad things will happen to him when he gets there.

I'll be curious to see if he reads this and decides to maybe slow down with the new posts a bit.
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Old 10-31-2013, 07:23 PM   #484
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It's been four years + .. how well have the Raceland coilovers held up? I'm looking in 2013. davzway
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AGXs were good with stock springs. I played around with every other set of rates on both sides of FM springs though, and did play with adjustments, (independent of each other) for months, and didn't find anything that worked.

Maybe I missed the sweet spot with the FM rates, but they were horribly underdamped with anything stiffer (rebound was nuts if you cranked up adjustments). I also never found a setting that worked well with lighter rates (66% more than stock), that didn't cause the car to jutter on every road imperfection.

I didn't want to install them a fourth time, so I sold them. I may just be picky though, and everyone has different needs. My car is a DD and I've tried 10 different setups in a year now, and still am not yet impressed with anything. Bilstein HDs with 450/250 QA1s were very decent, and I'm sure Illuminas with FM springs are very similar, but I never tried them.

I think our point in generally speaking our opinion in these kind of threads is to offer a perspective, however anecdotal, that someone can take with however much salt they want. It's all in context, and I know when reading a post by a hardcore trackrat that he may slam rates I'd find comfortable.

I also know I probably shouldn't take the word of a kid with 0 offset wheels (who measures ride height with housekeys) that a certain damper is "great."


Like I said above, I value 18psi's opinion since his usage is similar to mine, and would consider these a viable option if I hear another couple of positive reviews.

I would consider changing up the spring rates though.
Damon,, couldn't agree more on AGX's.. fubar.. I have not found anything in any thread for the Raceland new Ultimo coilover.. and NONE for the stut's 485/475 spring weight and how that will affect steering. COMMENTS? Am planning on doing another alignment after new shocks are done. Dave

FYI: PO spent 20k on this 1992 and unfortunately got cancer (I bought from doctor who knew PO for many years and who's hobby is racing and even teaches racing),, can account for at least 12K ,, new motor, tranny, hd clutch, expensive wheels with 205/40rx/16 tires,, lowered springs (2" road clearance) and supposedly high end Koni adjustable struts (have adjusted for max height which is 2" and 'softest' setting.. and still rides like a brick. Car is intended for street (GReddy turbo in box,, complete except for popoff valve which is why the new motor) Four spine surgeries makes the ride impossible as is.. need to go back to OEM height (or closer) but need a softer ride which a BACKWARDS from what most folks are doing. INPUT would be appreciated. YES I did spend 3 hours + looking at past threads to at least attempt to not ask same ol same ol. dave
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I don't understand David. I literally gave you the answer you were looking for. I'm starting to doubt the claimed 3+ hours of searching, because surely you would have seen at least one of Braineacks rants about how awful Koni yellows are.

If you are still thinking about Racelands, you haven't read enough.
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Here's my input. Work on your grammar, or nobody will help you. This is not facebook.
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they don't have top hats. i doubt there's a difference between the NA and NB, possibly longer bodies...but i bet just the rates.
NA is for the 1990-1998, the NB is the 1999 to 2005... other differences.. unlikely. davzway

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That is not a problem. I was unaware that using appropriate grammar and diction was an issue with this site. Previous sites complained that I used too many, too technical and/or words which required a dictionary. I stand corrected and will comply. David L. Willis

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I don't understand David. I literally gave you the answer you were looking for. I'm starting to doubt the claimed 3+ hours of searching, because surely you would have seen at least one of Braineacks rants about how awful Koni yellows are.

If you are still thinking about Racelands, you haven't read enough.
That is quite alright. I am likely on the wrong site. I did spend the time before typing word one to anyone. I do not believe in wasting anyone's time in bringing up a topic that has been rehashed for years; though I admit that I have not gotten to page 25 on this thread or gone to the end of all other threads viewed. I joined, hoping to find an answer to my strut / spring problem- without the learning curve of buying several brands of struts/springs. I won't bother you again. Dave

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Dont run off now, you took some criticism without losing your ****. Based on that alone, you will probably like this forum.
There is a ton of info on here, a lot of it is buried, so you have to search. To try to keep it less-buried, we dont allow people to constantly ask the same questions without searching.

The Koni Yellows are loved in the Honda world. The do seem to work well there, but they also have pretty low standards.
From what I understand is that you get a lot of jacking-down with Yellows and the kinds of rates people run on these cars.
As for the Racelands, they are junk. There are quite a few ics in this thread and on the rest of the net showing how they have failed. All you need to know is that they are a generic chinese shock inside of a threaded tube with spring rates designed for a Honda Civic.

I would wager that good condition stock shocks/springs would easily get better lap times than racelands.

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Use the edit button on your post to add more, if you make several posts in a row people will think your spamming you way into the classifieds section.
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Ummm, call me Captain Obvious, but...

If you want a cushy ride at stock ride height, here's a Genius Idea; run stock suspension. I'll gladly trade you my stock '99 stuff off my daily driver Miata all the way around for whatever aftermarket stuff is on your car. Serious, it's all in good shape, and rides like a dream.

Also, check your car and make sure the PO didn't buck up for Poly bushings, which will make it seem harsh no matter what shocks you run.

Back to the topic; Racelands still suck. They're probably only useful if stance and Hard Parking is your thing. It sounds like you need stock stuff.
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Pinky has what you need, Dave. Seriously.
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Dont run off now, you took some criticism without losing your ****. Based on that alone, you will probably like this forum.
There is a ton of info on here, a lot of it is buried, so you have to search. To try to keep it less-buried, we dont allow people to constantly ask the same questions without searching.

The Koni Yellows are loved in the Honda world. The do seem to work well there, but they also have pretty low standards.
From what I understand is that you get a lot of jacking-down with Yellows and the kinds of rates people run on these cars.
As for the Racelands, they are junk. There are quite a few ics in this thread and on the rest of the net showing how they have failed. All you need to know is that they are a generic chinese shock inside of a threaded tube with spring rates designed for a Honda Civic.

I would wager that good condition stock shocks/springs would easily get better lap times than racelands.

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Use the edit button on your post to add more, if you make several posts in a row people will think your spamming you way into the classifieds section.
Thank you. The first positive response yet and it's appreciated as I WAS trying to go back and not waste folks time. Will try to comply with the Edit button, though it may take time to get used to the site. Davzway
ps: as a General Contractor and Roofing Contractor for forty years, I developed a thick skin a long time back. It is EASY to jump on someone on the internet as apposed to being face to face.
pps: I have a strange situation in I HAVE a Race ready (except for the Greddy in a box) Miata (PO put 20k in the car before he contracted cancer and sold to his doctor ((PO)).. currently have 2" ground clearance and a HARD ride with the Koni race shocks. Have had four spine surgeries and I need to achieve a softer ride for most of the driving time. May do a Ralley but the racing days are past.

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Read with thanks. It will likely be better if I don't ask questions; if I cannot find answer needed will look elsewhere. Your response helped and is on the 3-item short list. davzway

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It sounds like you have a drift ready Miata, not a race ready miata. No offense David, but nobody is racing with 16" wheels.

If you want cushy, stock is definitely the way to go.

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It is EASY to jump on someone on the internet as apposed to being face to face.

That works both ways. It's just as easy for annoying ricer kiddies to come on here and fill this gem of Miata tuning info with dumb questions and pointless (though often entertaining) drama. It may not be the best way to deal with it, but it is kinda fun.
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It sounds like you have a drift ready Miata, not a race ready miata. No offense David, but nobody is racing with 16" wheels.

If you want cushy, stock is definitely the way to go.




That works both ways. It's just as easy for annoying ricer kiddies to come on here and fill this gem of Miata tuning info with dumb questions and pointless (though often entertaining) drama. It may not be the best way to deal with it, but it is kinda fun.
I would have stayed with 15" wheels. the 1992 is exactly the way I bought it and he did plan to race. Will have to go out and double check the tires as I have wondered how the 16" even fit. Thank you.

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Ummm, call me Captain Obvious, but...

If you want a cushy ride at stock ride height, here's a Genius Idea; run stock suspension. I'll gladly trade you my stock '99 stuff off my daily driver Miata all the way around for whatever aftermarket stuff is on your car. Serious, it's all in good shape, and rides like a dream.

Also, check your car and make sure the PO didn't buck up for Poly bushings, which will make it seem harsh no matter what shocks you run.

Back to the topic; Racelands still suck. They're probably only useful if stance and Hard Parking is your thing. It sounds like you need stock stuff.
Thanks. If I got anything out of the site so far is I have been saved from buying the Racelands. I was uncomfortable with ANYTHING that is this much less expensive (aka: CHEAP) than anything else. I will soon have the racing struts/springs (was told they were Koni's- not sure from personal observation. Purchased the car because it was too good a deal not to and get back into another Miata. Also likely to sell a complete GReddy turbo (everything except a pop-off valve) in the near future also. Only problem is I have already been warned that I appear to be spamming my way into the Classified; not so, and the only way to prove it is NOT to list what I have here. Sorry. davzway

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My colon was in an argument with my semi-colon... the comma said 'get lost', and the period was getting tired from overuse. None of which fit on my Miata. Your remark was understood.
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