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Old 05-19-2015, 02:19 AM   #1181
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Old 05-19-2015, 08:45 AM   #1182
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That looks great. What exhaust hangers are you using? I wish I thought of the cargo strap idea for holding the big *** muffler in place while fitting things up!
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Old 05-19-2015, 09:45 AM   #1183
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949- Submits 36-1 wheel code to DIY for SM damper




...and I just switched to a SM OEM style 4T trigger wheel to run 99-05 code
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Old 05-19-2015, 11:02 AM   #1184
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Yes please!

Columbia Mandrel bending is local to me. Its where I picked up my downpipe material.
I order a good amount of stuff from Columbia mandrel bending for my MKTurbo setups. I have been very happy with what I have received. The only thing I don't like is it takes 4-5 days to get to me on the east coast.

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Sunday was rather productive

I drove up to Gesso's place and arrived much later than expected (about noon.) Pat didn't get there much before I did so I don't feel quite so bad for making people wait. We got started pretty much immediately by ripping out the stock exhaust.


Steady state highway cruise at 80~ish really has a tendency to heatsoak things. Great big fan really helped pull the heat out of the cast iron behemoth manifold so I could actually, you know, unbolt it.

Not shown, removal of stock exhaust, manifold and installation of turbo, manifold and downpipe.


Clever muffler mounting trick is clever. This gave us the support needed to figure out where to put the hangers. Not sure where Gesso saw that but holding up the giant magnaflow would have been a challenge without it.


Gesso using his magical machine to add said hangers to said muffler.


Much marking, cutting, thinking, cutting again, and tack welding thus commenced!


That's no joke... I think we were at this for something like 8 hours? Its insane. We made a lot of quick progress then got bogged down in fitting all the crazy little bendy sections.


My god, its full of stars!


Little lower angle for you. I was not sure that big *** 5" OD resonator was going to fit, but Gesso said we could do it, so we did it! You can see the flex joint in the ARTech downpipe just ahead of the resonator body.


A small variation on the classic "broomstick test." Exocet can be seen in the background mean-mugging. I think it wants to be next.


The fitment really is quite amazingly good, seeing as how none of us had ever done this before. I was sure to turn on the flash so I could make Jeffbuc's eye twitch


On the far left you can see the 180 we had to cheat about 3/4" out of the middle to get things to tuck properly. In the end it really should not matter.


Here she is on the ground. That far exhaust hanger will get triangulated before everything is said and done.


So much win! 3" from turbo to bumper. ALLTHEFLOWS! It should be epicly silent as well.

As promised, here is the shopping list:

1 x 4" x 5.25" Stainless Double Wall Angle 3" Inlet Tip ~ DT-30101
1 x 3.00" Mild Steel, 4.00" Radius, 16 Gauge, 180 Deg. Mandrel Bend ~ MS-16-300-400-180
2 x 3.00" Mild Steel, 4.00" Radius, 16 Gauge, 90 Degree Mandrel Bend ~ MS-16-300-400-090
2 x 3.00" Mild Steel, 4.00" Radius, 16 Gauge, 45 Degree Mandrel Bend ~ MS-16-300-400-045
2 x 3.00" Mild Steel, 4.00" Radius, 16 Gauge, 18 Degree Mandrel Bend ~ MS-16-300-400-018
2 x 3.00" Mild V-Band Assembly ~ VBAND-300-ASM-MS
4 x 3.00" OD, 16 Gauge, Mild Steel Straight Tube ~ MS-300-065

1 x Magnaflow PN 12579 5x11x22 C/C 3" I/O w/2.5" dual cores

1 x Vibrant PN 17950 Large Diameter Bottle Style Resonator, 3" I/O, 5" OD body

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  • I think we only used about 1' of the 4' of pipe that I purchased due to the resonators length
  • We could have probably used at least one more 18 degree section
  • I stole a chassis mounted hangar off another exhaust that was in Gesso's garage to add a 4th hangar location for the muffler
  • A couple of cuts will need to be made somewhere along the system to add v-bands to make things a bit easier to remove.

Right now its tacked up and sitting on the floor in Gesso's garage. The plan is to backpurge the whole mess and he can finish tiging up the seams at his leisure. I'm hoping to be there so I can try to maybe screw up some of his hard work

Yeah, that's right, its mild. Come at me bro! It was significantly cheaper than stainless and for my needs, it will do just fine. I also found that there was a significant lack of angular diversity when I was hunting for stainless bends. I don't drive in the salt/snow so meh.

V-Bands will make it a lot more modular as well. If the front section with the resonator becomes too troublesome, we can remove it and replace it with a smaller one, or maybe even a high flow cat. This should also be modular enough that if I do something silly like changes horses midstream YET AGAIN the system can change with my frivolous desires.

Keep in mind this is all "practice" for when we spring into action on Gesso's car. I have a sneaking suspicion that exhaust will be very similar to this one. I think we will probably be building something for the Exo and Pat's car as well, depending on how things go.

Once again, I cannot thank Gesso and Pat Cleary enough for the mad romp through exhaust land. Time and effort are very much appreciated
Building 3" exhausts on the NB is a PITA. Yours looks great though. The only suggestion I would make would be go with aluminized steel over the mild steel. It should last a bit longer, and the cost difference is marginal.
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it's glorious
that's about as good as it gets for quiet+flow
and you know how much I appreciate quiet+flow
This is what comes from lurking and reading. You all are a bad influence.
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It doesn't turn all sorts of interesting colors, though!

Looks very nice!

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Thanks! The vast majority of that is Gesso, he has an amazing eye for this kind of stuff. He claims to have never done this before but I don't believe him.
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So where do I sign up to just get an extra one of everything you get made/buy...? I'll sign you up for the same thing on my truck project
Haha! My poor truck
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That looks great. What exhaust hangers are you using? I wish I thought of the cargo strap idea for holding the big *** muffler in place while fitting things up!
The metal hanger mounts are cut and bent out of I believe 3/8" stainless rod? Gesso can confirm. It was like $10 for 3' of rod or $10 EACH for prebent hangars that only came in a 10 pack. That's just silly. In the end they went together super easy. We used all the OEM chassis mount points plus added one. I'm tempted to add another but we'll see. I need to get a pic of the one we added. The soft mounts are OEM rubber jobs at the moment, but if it starts banging into things I've got a set of polly. Or hose clamps.
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...and I just switched to a SM OEM style 4T trigger wheel to run 99-05 code
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I haven't seen code yet but Emilio said the log was submitted. For me its a race between when the code comes out and when I get around to installing my damper as to if I order one or not. I do have a lot of other things I need to spend money on first to get this running though
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I order a good amount of stuff from Columbia mandrel bending for my MKTurbo setups. I have been very happy with what I have received. The only thing I don't like is it takes 4-5 days to get to me on the east coast.
Yeah, they seem to have a lot of great stuff. Shipping ain't so bad to CA though. Amazon Prime has made us all hypersensitive to shipping times though.
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Building 3" exhausts on the NB is a PITA. Yours looks great though.
Thanks! I can't take all the credit, Gesso is the wizard here. We've been following your posts in the Fabulous Fab thread and taking notes. I wanted to thank you guys for all the pics
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The only suggestion I would make would be go with aluminized steel over the mild steel. It should last a bit longer, and the cost difference is marginal.
I thought about this about a month after I bought the material, then just decided "meh" as it was not worth the hassle to send it back. It'll probably ugly up eventually but I don't mind. If I start to go insane (read: very likely) I'll wipe it down with something and squirt it with bbq paint. I'm already considering blacking out the muffler.

Thanks for all the comments/complements! Time to get the engine together so we can see what she sounds like.
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Old 05-19-2015, 12:53 PM   #1186
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It has begun.
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Old 05-19-2015, 01:12 PM   #1187
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The metal hanger mounts are cut and bent out of I believe 3/8" stainless rod? Gesso can confirm. It was like $10 for 3' of rod or $10 EACH for prebent hangars that only came in a 10 pack. That's just silly. In the end they went together super easy. We used all the OEM chassis mount points plus added one. I'm tempted to add another but we'll see. I need to get a pic of the one we added.
The metal hangers were made from this www.mcmaster.com/#89535k87/. It's a bit hard to bend, we had to use the bench vise and a 3ft pipe. But that's a good thing as that means the long one shouldn't sag much especially when triangulated.

The 4th muffler hanger mount is just a generic muffler mount attached to the drivers side tie down point (up pretty high).

Even with the soft factory rubber the mounting is pretty stiff, I'm hopeful that it won't bang around.
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Old 05-19-2015, 01:36 PM   #1188
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Oh thank god its FTE, I didn't want to sign up for another forum.
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I did.
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I did.
Good call with keeping it tame. They are a bit more uptight over there.
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What I want to know is who in the hell thinks they can call themselves Monk!?

It seems like a pretty decent forum. I need to do a little reading before my V8 ranger 5 speed swap.
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Old 05-19-2015, 01:49 PM   #1192
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"Uptight" is a pretty solid description. Lots of old guy forum warriors over there
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But the knowledge over there, oh the amount of knowledge.
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^^ Truth.
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Haha! I'm tempted to reply with "now we don't" but we all know where that will lead us.
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Im glad to see some pictures. For awhile there I was taking you thread title seriously.
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No one should take anything in this thread seriously.

Seriously.
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Oh yeah, ordered:


TR8 Intercooler 500HP- TREADSTONE PERFORMANCE

Amazon has made me INCREDIBLY impatient when it comes to shipping. I was really hoping for this to show up this week so I could work on plumbing and ductwork over the long weekend, but that ain't happenin'

Also, my FIC 650's are for sale if anyone cares: https://www.miataturbo.net/miata-par...cleaned-84516/ Maybe someone will buy them so I can prepare my car for future E85 shennanigans.
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Why not buttsecs?
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We had this conversation a couple pages ago. something about stages.

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