The Tougerun lip made a noticeable difference on my car. With it and the CoT wing running at an extremely shallow angle, the car was solid and planted at 120.

No amsoil simply because I can buy the other stuff when I think of it. I can have Andrew toss in some on of the many orders I will be placing with them over the next year.

FYI there's an amsoil dist center in tualatin. Andrew puts the order in you pick it up. Amsoil syncromesh was $13 picked up.

Car was rock steady at 144mph last year at Daytona. The spoiler settled the ass a bit when trail braking and cornering in sweepers. Spoilers work by slowing down the air immediately above the trunk lid, thereby reducing the aerodynamic lift over the trunk. They spoil the fast smooth flow of air across the surface. They work differently than wings, but they both help.

Some older very light planes use cable operated spoilers to eliminate lift over a portion of one wing to facilitate a roll to turn the airplane. It is a simpler device than an aileron.

P61 Black Widow used that method as well. The ailerons were there only to give the pilots some stick feel.

The spoiler on the trunk also helps to evacuate air out from underneath the car. They are surprisingly effective for how simple they are.

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Such a beautiful plane. I always loved them. I didn't realize they used them.

Fred Erb, the dude responsible for the roll control system on the P-61.




He mentions an instance where two test pilots did a mock dogfight, P-38 vs P-61, and the P-61 owned the P-38. This is remarkable given the size & weight differences of the aircraft.

It would be interesting to know which P-38 model was used in that test. The L model was the first to use hydraulically actuated ailerons (vs sheer pilot muscle power) and had a better roll rate than earlier models, especially in high speed / heavy load conditions where the pilot by himself couldn't put much AoA into the ailerons. Since the P-61 is a late-war aircraft it very well could have been a P-38L used in the test.

But I digress.

On a P-61 related note, My grandfather was a dorsal gunner on a P-61 during WWII.

Spoilers are used everywhere. Lots of jets use them for roll control, including a lot of airliners (they use a mixture of spoilers vs. inner ailerons vs. outer ailerons depending upon flight regime). Spoilers are really nice for minimizing adverse yaw.

I have the R-package spoiler on the red car. I don't think it does much other than auto-shut the trunk lid.

I've been lusting over the tougerun lip for a while, but my driveway is already trying to remove my NB1 Sport tupperware lip. There is no way I can loose another 2-3" of ground clearance on the front of the car. :cry:

Is the tougerun lip the same as GV?

@Mobius. Is your splitter still around?

Yes. Its a knockoff of the GV but instead of being made out of fiberglass and suffering from testicle shattering shipping costs and JDMy0 markup, they are made of poly and much cheaper. Last time I checked I believe they are manufactured somewhere around here in the Bay Area.

$80?

For 2001 2005 Mazda Miata MX 5 GV Style PU Polyurethane Front Bumper Lip Spoiler | eBay

My knockoff GV lip moves itself out of the way of curbs just fine

I might try that for $80 shipped. Then I'll need another NB decklid for a Blackbird fab spoiler ;)

I have one with your name all over it.

Wait, shit... this is Six's build thread? Sorry Six, we are bad people.

Why do you have an NB2 GV knockoff lip? /boggle

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1444839376

Perfect condition. Just some tape residue and shit.

$80 now for the lip? I think it was $99 back when I got it.

BTW, I have the duct openings taped shut with black gorilla tape to maximize aerodynamic effectiveness. It helps.

My in-progress splitter is in my garage behind The Wall of Doom, if that answers your question.

It will need to be revised for car 2.0 but iirc I hadn't yet made any cuts for the actual front lip fitment so that should be all fine.

Back to six's thread.

I've got great friends. Thanks to Troy (miata2fast) and Ryan_G for all of the help yesterday. You guys are awesome.

The 3.63 is in. The 6speed is in. Some vastly improved heat shields are mounted. There are some additional shields to be added in the rear differential and fuel tank area but it runs and drives.

I understand why the European cars come with the 3.63 and 6speed together. It is just the right match for gearing, naturally aspirated or turbo. The first five gears seem the same as with the 5speed and 4.10, but now there is a cruising gear above them. Very nice.

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Downpipe heat shield picture attached. I decided to use standard gear clamps to retain the shield for ease of installation and future removal. An air gap was retained between the pipe and shield to facilitate air movement.

The material is an aluminum factory shield used to protect a plastic fuel tank from exhaust heat on some type of minivan or truck I found at the junkyard. It was about 36"x12" and mostly flat with some ribs for air gap. I cut it to size and bent it around the downpipe. What you see is all one piece, split and trimmed to make the bend. It is tight and doesn't rattle or buzz.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1445372509

That's gotta beat any kind of fabric wrap. It's on my junkyard shopping list for future upgrades.

Did I walk out into the street and get run down by a truck?

That's kind of how I felt the next morning. My youth is not what it use to be.

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Well, it's early on Saturday. I just went through tech here at Daytona.

Hopefully we put everything together correctly and the heat shields work properly.

Ryan_G overslept again, lol, but he made it here.

Good luck! In4vids.

Missed 1st session, ran 2nd session and blew off an intercooler coupler. 3rd session black flagged on out lap due to Porsche in the wall.

Jeez... Sounds like a hell of a day.. Hopefully tomorrow goes better

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I say missed the first session but I actually got out for the last lap.

Ryan's car has been having ignition trouble all week but it turns out that it was oil fouling. Engine has to come out. So sad for him.

I let him drive mine for one of the sessions this afternoon.

I took advantage of the presence of a dyno here at the track and pulled 262 horsepower and 252 torque at about 15psi. The first run hit the overboost protection because the air was slightly cooler in the evening when I did the pull. You see the dips where it kicked in.

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Different view.


Iron log FM manifold, GTX2867R, 3in turbo back, very conservative spark, pump 93.

I got to swing by but stuck in classes all day :(

What event is this?

NASA SE and NASA FL at Daytona Speedway.

I'm going to reroute my intercooler piping on the hotside and get everything beaded since I am going to be running higher boost levels now. What was fine at 8-10 psi doesn't cut it at 15+ as I move forward.

That beading tool I got from JEGS worked pretty darn well.

The beading tool i made for $5 worked pretty darn well too. Pick your poison

DIY $5 charge pipe bead roller - D-series.org

My parents shared some old pictures of my first love with me and I thought I would share with you fellas. I'm feeling a bit nostalgic with Christmas upon us.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...p;d=1451237946

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...p;d=1451237958

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...p;d=1451237966

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...p;d=1451237977

That's sweet!

I still have mine:
https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...1&d=1451242460

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I do too. But it looks rough and hasn't been cranked since '08 or so.

Yeah. Back in the day, I DD it in Pensacola and later Jacksonville (Cecil Field). The Florida climate is not kind. North Texas is way better for steel.

fix it. It just looks amazing!

I'm going to need a new roof on the house soon. About $8-10k to do it right with a decent contractor. The car will need to rest and rust a bit longer.

No Amish in your neck of the woods I take it?

Nope. Amish don't build to the new hurricane code. It apparently requires Honduran or Mexican expertise. The codes here require better materials and more involved installation procedures than my place in Georgia did. I guess that's a good thing.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...p;d=1451237966

that's one big miata.

So I began upgrading my gauges with a beautiful custom set from Adam @ Revlimiter.net. I chose the new "Fighter" series for high visibility and quick recognition. It was custom scaled to correct for the swap from 4.10 gears to 3.63, so it is a practical upgrade. It also features a 6 o'clock zero so that the redline area and speeds above 100mph are physically higher in the panel for easier visibility. It also now features a 160mph top of scale, which is appropriate for the gearing and my opportunities to run at tracks like Daytona.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1451909738


It is an extremely high quality set and I am fortunate to have it. Adam included goodies and extras as well.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1451909651

I haven't had a chance to orient the fuel gauge needle yet so it hasn't been fully reassembled for this picture.

i like it. the orientation makes perfect sense.

Uber-cool. I like the Hot Wheels RX.

Cover is on gauges. Clear lens has indelible spots and I'd love a spare na8 replacement if anyone has a spare.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1452482195

Bailey likes warm dishwasher right after it is opened up.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1452482195

Wouldn't the spots come off with plastic polish?

I don't think he'd hold still for it.

And I haven't tried anything other than cleaner on the lens.

toothpaste would work too, but cats hate the flavor.

I ordered a pressure switch for the half ass Devils Own kit I picked up a few years ago and it came with a cool bumper sticker.

https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...p;d=1454774017

Definitely will get me pulled over more often in Florida.

Shooter, about that temp gauge... shouldn't the 260 degrees mark be like 5 degrees to the right from the center with 800 degrees being fully to the right?

LOL. That bumper sticker is PERFECT!

It's ok. I don't trust it. I use an oil temp gauge with an alarm.

I'm doing this, in case anybody else wants to come play. I hate going out to events alone.

March 26th, 2016 @ Sebring International Raceway |

Good group with lots of track time and very little hassle. Lunch is included.

Scott (Pdexta) came out to Sebring yesterday when we were running and I took him out for a couple of laps. Tire pressure was getting a little high as the day warmed up and I should have let it down some prior to going out. The fuel tank was getting low and the back end was a also bit lighter than in the morning. Running about 10psi on gtx2867r in the video. Meth injection not yet hooked up. You can tell what is happening with the throttle by watching the orange indicator on the boost gauge on the left a-pillar.

Nice video :likecat:

Looks like tons of fun!! Still on the fence if I should save for TSE EFR allthethings, or grab a nicer GTX direct swap with my setup & a new intercooler...

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The EFR spools quicker than the GTX with the. 86 turbine, if that's something you want. Mine would spool better if I wasn't using a cast FM log mani.

That video just doesn't do it justice. I am glad you can't hear me squealing when the backend steps out coming out of the turn at 240mph though. I really appreciate the ride, thanks man!