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Old 10-09-2021, 10:10 AM
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Originally Posted by Reverant
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/10/08/w...ine-covid.html

"The vaccines have worked to keep most of the population out of the hospital, with 98.4 percent of cases presenting mild or no symptoms. The deaths have occurred mostly in seniors, usually with comorbidities, and account for 0.2 percent of the cases over the past 28 days. But the shots cannot protect against infection, especially when up against the Delta variant, Mr. Wong said."

Yeah, it's doing wonders!






Vaccines in Singapore started in ~Mar 2021 -- weird that's when everyone started dying too...

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Boring in here without the MAGA insults
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Originally Posted by Reverant
They don't prevent it (100% rate), they reduce it. Same with severe disease and death.
LOL - you try too hard to support a feeble stance


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I know what my chances are from dying or getting a permanent side effect from the vaccine (<0.1%) than dying or getting a permanent side effect from covid (8-25% depending on several factors) and without a doubt chose the vaccine.
Ah, so you get a choice on taking the experimental, Non-FDA approved, didn't complete clinical trials, never used in humans mRNA drug that modifies your body cells?


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I'm sure they are, however I would like to ask you to think if you know one incident where the specific companies making these vaccines, have had unethical business practices. Don't google them, just ask yourself. I'm not waiting for an answer.
You are being purposely obtuse. Johnson + Johnson - largest fine in history of biopharma. Johnson + Johnson just recalled their Neutrogena brand spray sunscreen because it had benzine in it. I mean, saying "well their practices aren't unethical, but had things keep happening to them" is ludicrous.


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Answering to all of the above, as it seems this is a recurring point.

Naturally immunity (ie the one you get after contracting covid) is NOT superior to the vaccine immunity. It has been proven and tested that it is wildly fluctuating, meaning that for *some* people it its good and for others it's totally trash. On average, it is much worse than the vaccine's immunity.

Lookup "natural immunity vs vaccine covid" and let me know what you find.
Got it. I think we can freely ignore anything you say now. A) yes natural immunity is stronger than vaccine and has been widely accepted as such until Plandemic began. Just as masks have never been regarded as protecting you against an airborne virus. B) Your precious Big Tech is seeing to it that you only read their fictitious propaganda about the government saving you from Covid with this 100% effective and safe vaccine. I'm sorry friend, you are being lied to and you are thriving. Please educate yourself. Just for once, try thinking that you might need to listen more carefully to the growing percentage of doctors that are being fired or canceled because they are bringing up problems with vaccinated patients.
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Originally Posted by Diamond Dave
LOL - you try too hard to support a feeble stance
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Ah, so you ...
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You are being purposely obtuse.
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Got it. I think we can freely ignore anything you say now.
Looks like a personal attack fest.

Thanks for reaffirming my belief that most antivaxxers don't want to get involved in a meaningful conversation. It seems most of them just want their pitchforks and to hang the witch.

Good bye and good luck.
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Originally Posted by Reverant
Thanks for reaffirming my belief that most antivaxxers don't want to get involved in a meaningful conversation. It seems most of them just want their pitchforks and to hang the witch.
Not really surprising when anyone who dares question the vaccine has been universally vilified and slathered with dehumanizing labels.
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Originally Posted by Bajingo
Not really surprising when anyone who dares question the vaccine has been universally vilified and slathered with dehumanizing labels.
With the recent data that's emerged, this really should be called a flu "shot", not a vaccine. It's not effective like a polio or measles vaccine, but more like your seasonal flu shot. It may work, it may not. Either way you'll probably not get the flu as bad.

Of course my wife was out for three days after her shot and my dad was nearly comatose after his, but the thought of taking an 89 year old to the hospital seemed like a bigger risk than keeping him home and hoping he pulled out of it.
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https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01535-y
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OK, let's just have a little closer look at that hardly conclusive opinion piece:

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"We recognize that by recommending IPD review by default for meta-analysis of potential therapeutic agents in COVID-19 we are calling for change to nearly universally accepted practice over many decades, but the consequent potential for patient harm on a global scale demands nothing less." Over 3.7 billion doses of Ivermectin have been given worldwide, with fewer that 5,700 adverse reactions. That should tell you all you need to know about this BS paper.

Covid plunges after Indonesia distributes Ivermectin

Ignore the plunging cases of Covid when Ivermectin is used in Indonesia.

Media blackout as Ivermectin & Doxycyclin defeat Covid in India

Ignore the real-world success of the numbers in India.

When your mom gets Covid, definitely DON'T give her Ivermectin, because science.
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FYI: Those last two videos I posted were actually by Dr. Campbell who is noted in your link there.
I thought this piece, also referenced in that link, was well worth breaking out and posting on its own:

https://www.thedesertreview.com/opin...0b1f2ff67.html

The level of deliberate misinformation (aka disinformation!) about ivermectin is criminal.
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And now, a short pause to enjoy a little levity . . .



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Originally Posted by good2go
FYI: Those last two videos I posted were actually by Dr. Campbell who is noted in your link there.
I thought this piece, also referenced in that link, was well worth breaking out and posting on its own:

https://www.thedesertreview.com/opin...0b1f2ff67.html

The level of deliberate misinformation (aka disinformation!) about ivermectin is criminal.
CRIMINAL. Personally, by government entity, by corporation via cronyism, and certainly by the media.

Vaccinated infecting the vaccinated
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Trust those numbers.

The New York Times issued a correction on Friday after a reporter said 900,000 children have been hospitalized in the US with Covid-19 when the true figure is a tiny fraction of that: 63,000.

The mistake was made by the Times' health and science reporter Apoorva Mandavilli, who took to Twitter back in May to claim the theory that coronavirus was leaked from a Wuhan lab has 'racist roots'.

'The article misstated the number of Covid hospitalizations in US children. It is more than 63,000 from August 2020 to October 2021, not 900,000 since the beginning of the pandemic,' the correction read.
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Apparently some pilots dont want to die from heart attacks midflight:



Waiting for Reverent to post that they are all cancelled due to perfect weather outside.
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The New, Evil Twist on Going Green

The CCP tortures, rapes the Uighurs, then makes them build solar panels for our consumption
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Reverent actually thinks this is good.

https://www.kwtx.com/2021/10/08/atto...ead-flu-shots/

Attorney: COVID vaccines given to family, including small kids, instead of flu shots

Members of an Indiana family who went to get flu shots, including two children, were accidentally given adult doses of the Pfizer coronavirus vaccine, their attorney said.

They said it happened Monday at a Walgreens pharmacy, WFIE reported.

The family of four includes two adults and children who are 4 and 5 years old.

The Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine is only approved for people ages 12 and older. The companies are seeking approval for use in children ages 5 to 11 with the U.S. Food and Drug Administration.

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Tuley said the children have been taken to a pediatric cardiologist, and the family was told both are showing signs of heart issues.

The family said the younger child has been sick with a fever and a cough.

Walgreens had not responded to requests for comment by Friday evening.
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Guise, even the mannequins are coming down with delta. Please be careful


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