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Old 12-13-2010, 01:18 PM   #221
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you're a ******* idiot, do you seriously not think that printing documents with informants name sin them is a bad thing?
The "informants" you are talking about are POLITICIANS...
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The "informants" you are talking about are POLITICIANS...
Why do you have a president and a prime minister and a council of minsters?
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I can't. I have a clearance that's not high enough to allow access to this level of classified documents. I risk losing it if I do, let alone talk about the classified information within the cables.
Brain, all you have to do is to read post #174.
There's really not much more than that to the documents.
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Old 12-13-2010, 01:30 PM   #224
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Why do you have a president and a prime minister and a council of minsters?
I really do not understand the question.

There are are undersecretaries, governors, mayors, department heads and clerks, too.
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And again, the actual contents of the documents are not relevant.

Folks are trying to argue that Assange is not a criminal because the particular classified information that his website facilitated the release of wasn't particularly damaging. And that's just not the case.
And this isn't what I'm arguing, either, Joe.

Releasing classified information isn't illegal. The only precedents involved say that there is nothing illegal about it, regardless of how they were stated. While the original leaker is doing something illegal, and I have agreed with this several times (As a disclaimer: Brain can attest, if he has clearance, what he has to sign to get access. At the very least, by leaking, you violate those.)

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I can't. I have a clearance that's not high enough to allow access to this level of classified documents. I risk losing it if I do, let alone talk about the classified information within the cables.
Are you serious? They are just classified Secret, at worst SECRET NOFORN...Ah, you just have a Confidential clearance.
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Old 12-13-2010, 01:37 PM   #226
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There's really not much more than that to the documents.

i know what are in these cables: nothing special at all. Notice how no Top Secret documents have been leaked...yet?



Public Trust BABY! I am trusted to handle your SSN and Credit Card information.... nothing more.
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i know what are in these cables: nothing special at all. Notice how no Top Secret documents have been leaked...yet?
Ah, point taken from here then.

I just wish people would evaluate this based on what has actually been done, instead of what they have been told has been done.

I'm so tired of this political system where the politicians just try to manipulate and distract people, instead of having them evaluate something on it's own merits.
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Old 12-13-2010, 01:42 PM   #228
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Wanna move to Somalia with me and be a pirate and pwn noobs?
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Wanna move to Somalia with me and be a pirate and pwn noobs?
Sure. Will you be my cabin boy?
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No. The whole point of moving to a place without Gov't is so I can live through the efforts of myself.
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Well, I don't know if pirating would be the right business for you then .
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A society of no organized protection against force, and every citizen has been compelled to go about armed, to turn his home into a fortress, to shoot any strangers approaching his door—or to join a protective gang of citizens who would fight other gangs, formed for the same purpose, and thus bring about the degeneration of that society into the chaos of gang-rule, i.e., rule by brute force, into perpetual tribal warfare of prehistorical savages.

Sounds like a great place to sell arms and make a buck!
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Wanna move to Somalia with me and be a pirate and pwn noobs?
On a side note. Somalia is better off under Anarchy then it has ever been under any form of government ever formed there, or realistically that will ever form there.
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On a side note. Somalia is better off under Anarchy then it has ever been under any form of government ever formed there, or realistically that will ever form there.
Lolwut? Seriously?
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Lolwut? Seriously?
Here is a academic published paper about it.
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Aren't they under Shaira law now though?
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Here is a academic published paper about it.
Wow.

This is wrong. And funny. And more wrong. And yet totally hilarious.
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Old 12-13-2010, 02:38 PM   #238
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Wow.

This is wrong. And funny. And more wrong. And yet totally hilarious.
Why is it wrong? Peter Leeson has a lot of good papers on Anarchy if you are interested.
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Why is it wrong? Peter Leeson has a lot of good papers on Anarchy if you are interested.
Mainly? Because of hearing so much crap about how "governments are always in your best interest" and how a society could never function without a government.
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Well, you were indoctrinated.

just google search "government quotes" you'll find more quotes against gov't than for...and all by famous political figures.

such as this:

My reading of history convinces me that most bad government results from too much government.
Thomas Jefferson

or this:

Every government degenerates when trusted to the rulers of the people alone. The people themselves are its only safe depositories.
Thomas Jefferson

or this:

The government solution to a problem is usually as bad as the problem.
Milton Friedman

or this:

A free America... means just this: individual freedom for all, rich or poor, or else this system of government we call democracy is only an expedient to enslave man to the machine and make him like it.
Frank Lloyd Wright

etc. etc. etc.

Then it's funny to read quotes about Marxism and lol.

I like to laugh at this one, from the man himself:

From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs.
Karl Marx

**** gets me every time.
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