Notices
DIY Turbo Discussion greddy on a 1.8? homebrew kit?

COP Thread

Thread Tools
 
Search this Thread
 
Old Nov 23, 2010 | 12:40 AM
  #1361  
BoostedTrixx's Avatar
I'm Miserable!
 
Joined: Oct 2010
Posts: 189
Total Cats: 0
From: Fort Bragg, NC
Default

Here is a picture of the finished product!

Name:  photo-1.jpg
Views: 192
Size:  73.0 KB
Old Nov 23, 2010 | 01:28 AM
  #1362  
sasquatch's Avatar
Junior Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Joined: Jul 2009
Posts: 132
Total Cats: 0
From: langley BC
Default

here is my coils on my bp, i know i have the motor sideways lol...


the harness in the midle of making it, i later added this harness to my haltech harness
Name:  DSCN4787.jpg
Views: 169
Size:  143.4 KB
Name:  DSCN4788.jpg
Views: 205
Size:  128.4 KB
Name:  DSCN4790.jpg
Views: 165
Size:  122.0 KB
Old Dec 20, 2010 | 07:35 AM
  #1363  
Dragula's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 50
Total Cats: 7
Default

Sorry if this has been resolved already, I'm at work and can only do so much searching.

I wired and installed my COP setup and got it running on my Braineack built DIYPNP for my 94. It seems to work fine so far except when I hit 4k rpm, my dash tach shoots to redline while my tunerstudio tach remains normal.

Any ideas what could be causing this or what I might need to change on my megasquirt?

I wired all 4 coils to the blue on one original connector, all 4 tach and grounds as well to their respective wire on 1 connector as well as a ground wire to the back of the valve cover. And the triggers to their respective wires on the connectors.
Should I have separated the tach wiring? I just ran 1 wire up to the first coil and then soldered branches into that wire as it passed by the other coils. The other shared wires (GND and +12) are done the same way.
Old Dec 20, 2010 | 08:39 AM
  #1364  
Braineack's Avatar
Thread Starter
Boost Czar
iTrader: (62)
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 80,552
Total Cats: 4,368
From: Chantilly, VA
Default

everything should wire together but the triggers where there should be one for a pair.
Old Dec 20, 2010 | 09:35 AM
  #1365  
Dragula's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 50
Total Cats: 7
Default

Originally Posted by Braineack
everything should wire together but the triggers where there should be one for a pair.
Thats how I currently have it.

+12 runs from coil 1 to blue on the 1/4 connector with branches soldered in for 2, 3 and 4.
GND runs from coil 1 to black on the 1/4 connector and a lug on the valve cover with branches soldered in for 2, 3 and 4.
Tach runs from coil 1 to black/white on the 1/4 connector with branches soldered in for 2, 3 and 4.
Trigger for 1/4 runs from coil 1 to brown/yellow with a branch soldered in for 4.
Trigger for 2/3 runs from coil 2 to brown with a branch soldered in for 3.

I have a 10k microfarad cap between +12 and GND.
I tried a 1k ohm resistor from +12 to -IGN in the DIAG box with no effect. I'll check later though whether its actually contacting anything. Maybe theres some crud on the contacts or something.
Old Dec 20, 2010 | 09:39 AM
  #1366  
Braineack's Avatar
Thread Starter
Boost Czar
iTrader: (62)
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 80,552
Total Cats: 4,368
From: Chantilly, VA
Default

...hmmm
Old Dec 20, 2010 | 07:15 PM
  #1367  
Dragula's Avatar
Junior Member
 
Joined: May 2010
Posts: 50
Total Cats: 7
Default

Alright, my mistake. It actually happens exactly at 3500. If I rev up quick, the tach shoots past redline. If I bring it up slowly past 3500, it jumps around as soon as it hits that point.
Old Dec 25, 2010 | 12:25 AM
  #1368  
Hot_Wheels's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 849
Total Cats: -34
From: Roselle, Illinois
Default

so i got a AEM twin fire CDI ignition system for xmas, i plan on running a set of the AEM pencil coils with this set up, i dont have access to my car at the moment, can someone tell me how long is the plug boot? theres 2 options for the pencil coils 5.72in or 6.65. which is closest?
Old Dec 25, 2010 | 12:26 AM
  #1369  
Hot_Wheels's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: May 2008
Posts: 849
Total Cats: -34
From: Roselle, Illinois
Default

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/AEM-C...Q5fAccessories

heres a picture of the kit btw, i just got the CDI box for now and will get the coils when i get extra money.
Old Feb 10, 2011 | 02:08 PM
  #1370  
JEMERY's Avatar
Junior Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 223
Total Cats: -1
From: Marietta, Ga
Default

So, I see a lot of peoples harnesses for the 1.6 cars what capacitors are you guys running? 10000uF or I have seen two 4700uF in parallel? Any ideas as to what they are impedance-wise, low, high, general electronics? I'm looking on mouser and have found some 10000uF caps but they are freaking huge 21mm diam 31mm L. Any help would be good. Is this schematic correct for MSPNP? Is that a 1K ohm resistor? Where's the capacitor in this diagram?


Originally Posted by lazzer408


Schematic update for MS owners.

Last edited by JEMERY; Feb 10, 2011 at 04:35 PM.
Old Feb 10, 2011 | 06:51 PM
  #1371  
poobs's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 810
Total Cats: -6
From: Florida
Default

The schematic shows a 1K ohm resistor (1000 ohm )

The caps can be two 4700uf in parallel, They need to be polarized electrolytic rated at something over 12v. I think mine were 35vdc. They are not shown.

The ones you saw may be rated for a higher voltage or something else.
Old Feb 10, 2011 | 08:45 PM
  #1372  
falcon's Avatar
Elite Member
iTrader: (13)
 
Joined: Dec 2009
Posts: 2,499
Total Cats: 16
Default

Originally Posted by JEMERY
So, I see a lot of peoples harnesses for the 1.6 cars what capacitors are you guys running? 10000uF or I have seen two 4700uF in parallel? Any ideas as to what they are impedance-wise, low, high, general electronics? I'm looking on mouser and have found some 10000uF caps but they are freaking huge 21mm diam 31mm L. Any help would be good. Is this schematic correct for MSPNP? Is that a 1K ohm resistor? Where's the capacitor in this diagram?
I didn't run a cap on my MS'd 1.6L and had no issues. I'm still not quite sure what the cap is for and why it's recommended. But I didn't need it.
Old Feb 11, 2011 | 02:19 PM
  #1373  
JEMERY's Avatar
Junior Member
iTrader: (3)
 
Joined: Apr 2008
Posts: 223
Total Cats: -1
From: Marietta, Ga
Default

So wiring two capacitors in parallel sounds good to me, but where in schematic do they need to be?
Old Feb 11, 2011 | 05:39 PM
  #1374  
absRTP's Avatar
Senior Member
iTrader: (12)
 
Joined: Sep 2009
Posts: 516
Total Cats: 0
From: -
Default

Between ground and +12V would seems to be logical for me.....
Old Mar 10, 2011 | 06:46 PM
  #1375  
93turboNA's Avatar
Junior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 70
Total Cats: 0
From: keyport, nj
Default

ok, so i just made the Cop setup pictured above for my 93 miata 1.6. when i installed it the car would start and run for a second and then shut off. my tach never moves so that would indicate to me there is a problem with the tach signal. however if i leave the cop set up wired in and leave the cop's on the spark plugs while i have the stock coil pluged into the cars harness the car runs like a champ and my tach works fine. ive checked my wiring a few times and it all appears correct. and i am running a stock ecm. any ideas?????
Old Mar 12, 2011 | 08:53 PM
  #1376  
93turboNA's Avatar
Junior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Feb 2011
Posts: 70
Total Cats: 0
From: keyport, nj
Default

answered my own ?. had a stupid moment. lol. forgot i had to unplug the stock ignitor chip. duhhhhh
Old Mar 14, 2011 | 11:48 AM
  #1377  
Zaphod's Avatar
Elite Member
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,574
Total Cats: 106
From: Schwarzenberg, Germany
Default

I just ordered myselb the 10000 uF caps to fit in my existing Cop harness. What I did forget is, that as an NB user I got 2 line with ground and +12V separated always for two cylinders.

Can I use two of the 10000uF caps - one in each pair of lines or should they be more like 5000uF each...?
Old Mar 14, 2011 | 11:57 AM
  #1378  
Braineack's Avatar
Thread Starter
Boost Czar
iTrader: (62)
 
Joined: May 2005
Posts: 80,552
Total Cats: 4,368
From: Chantilly, VA
Default

It wont hurt either way.
Old Mar 14, 2011 | 01:30 PM
  #1379  
Zaphod's Avatar
Elite Member
 
Joined: Mar 2006
Posts: 1,574
Total Cats: 106
From: Schwarzenberg, Germany
Default

Thanks!
Old Mar 14, 2011 | 01:53 PM
  #1380  
BarbyCar's Avatar
Junior Member
iTrader: (1)
 
Joined: Apr 2007
Posts: 471
Total Cats: 25
From: Toronto, Canada
Default

Originally Posted by Zaphod
I just ordered myselb the 10000 uF caps to fit in my existing Cop harness. What I did forget is, that as an NB user I got 2 line with ground and +12V separated always for two cylinders.

Can I use two of the 10000uF caps - one in each pair of lines or should they be more like 5000uF each...?
Whuuut?

I just built mine - not tested or installed - using this schematic http://miataturbo.wikidot.com/cop for 95.5+. It shows common ground and +12v. I'm going to be grounding at the front of the intake manifold and pulling +12v (unswitched) through a relay off the under hood fuse panel. The control for the relay is the +12v that normally powers the stock coils.

So, just wondering Zaphod, where are your separated ground and +12v connected? And, did I miss something before I plug this in and fry it?



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 07:13 AM.