Engine: '99 1.8L Stock
Turbo: TD04L-13T Manifold: 1 1/4" Schedule 40 LOG Downpipe Size/Style: Modified 1.6L BEGI Segregated Exhaust Size: 3" with Mag high flow Cat and Mag 5x22x11 Intercooler Core Size: 5.5x22x2.5 Intake Manifold: Stock Headwork: none Engine Management: MS3-Basic Rear tire size: 195/50-15 Other helpers/hurters: 8 PSI Waste Gate Only Fourth Gear Pull... RPM: MAP (psi): 1320 0.3 1400 0.7 1500 1.0 1700 1.6 2000 2.6 2400 4.3 3000 5.9 3500 5.9 4000 6.6 4500 6.9 See This post for EBC at 12 PSI |
Engine: 01' 1.8L with functional VVT
Turbo: Precision 4828 Manifold: BEGI cast style with EGR Downpipe Size/Style: older BEGI non separated gasses Exhaust Size: Flyin' Miata 2.5" with high flow cat and resonator Other exhaust: Stock muffler for now. Intercooler Core Size: 18"x8"x3"? (estimated from memory) Charge Piping: 2" over the top style hotside, 2.5" behind headlight coldside. Intake Manifold: Stock Headwork: none Engine Management: MS3x Rear tire size: 205/45R16 Other helpers/hurters: Open Loop EBC, pull was done on slight incline. This tune was about 230rwhp and 232rwtq on the dyno. 5th gear pull RPM PSI 2011 -1 2159 0 2321 1.1 2534 2 2749 3 2987 4 3161 5 3333 6 3442 7 3585 8 3728 9 4381 10 4490 11.1 4675 12 [7/10/14 update] Just something I noticed... I am trying to limit my torque to levels safe with a stock motor so about 9psi and 3700 rpm I am starting to limit my boost with the EBC. If I weren't doing so I imagine that my spool would look a little more conventional albeit a bit late compared to others. |
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Engine: 1.9L forged 8.5:1 comp
Turbo: 2876 Manifold: Custom Downpipe Size/Style: 3" merged w/ EWG Exhaust Size: 3" Exhaust Components: SS Pipe Intercooler Core Size: BIG Intake Manifold: Stock Headwork: Porting/Polishing, valve job, and what not. Engine Management: Mmm Squirt Other Spoolin' Helpers/Hurters: Running wastegate spring only. Trans & Rear End Ratio: 6-speed, 4.3 Rear tire size: 205/45-16 FIFTH GEAR PULL: RPM Boost(PSI) 2200 - 2.1 3228 - 6.7 3526 - 8.0 3650 - 9.4 3729 - 10.4 3800 - 11.4 3955 - 14.2 4046 - 15.3 4612 - 16.8 5000 - 16.1 5574 - 15.9 6000 - 17.7 6156 - 18.0 (peak) 6500 - 15.4 6788 - 14.5 7006 - 14.7 :jerkit: https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1404973365 |
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Catfish 1.6
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JDM 1.6 of indeterminate age or mileage
MSPNP2 FM Log 2560 Churbo, balanced to 150k Custom 2.5" dump pipe exiting to 2.5" side pipe FM IC with external BOV 6 speed (dyno done in 5th gear) 245/35-17" rims (23.7" diameter) Mustang Dyno--this one has back to back dyno's with the DCSPort dynojet and is 20% conservative Filter value is 6 out of 50 (not much plot line smoothing) Adjusted "dynojet" numbers: 190whp = 228whp 170wtq = 204wtq |
Engine: 1.8L '00 stock BP (not vvt)
Turbo: chrubo "disco potato" compressor: 3" inlet 2" outlet 0.6 A/R 48mm trim turbine: 0.64 A/R 76mm trim Manifold: begi S4 style Downpipe Size/Style: 60mm merged wastegate 42mm Exhaust Size: full 60mm no cat no resonator, nothing!!! Exhaust Components: magnaflow 60mm with dbkiller Intercooler Core Size: 550 x 140 x 65 ebay intercooler Intake Manifold: Stock Headwork: none Engine Management: emanage blue (temporary, waiting money for rev ms) Other Spoolin' Helpers/Hurters: nothing, only wastegate with original compressor signal Trans & Rear End Ratio: 6-speed, 3.909 Rear tire size: 195/50-15 FIFTH GEAR PULL: RPM Boost(PSI) 2179 - 0 2481 - 1.45 2760 - 2.18 3087 - 3.63 3447 - 4.35 3860 - 5.8 4277 - 9.43 4394 - 10.15 4655 - 11.31 after 5000 rpm begins to drop down to 9.40 psi at 6500 rpm |
Engine: 01' 1.8L with functional VVT
Turbo: Precision 4828 Manifold: BEGI cast style with EGR Downpipe Size/Style: older BEGI non separated gasses Exhaust Size: Flyin' Miata 2.5" with high flow cat and resonator Other exhaust: Stock muffler for now. Intercooler Core Size: 18"x8"x3"? (estimated from memory) Charge Piping: 2" over the top style hotside, 2.5" behind headlight coldside. Intake Manifold: Stock Headwork: none Engine Management: MS3x Rear tire size: 205/45R16 Other helpers/hurters: Closed Loop - in the process of tweaking. Slight up-hill pull so it may shift the boost earlier than normal. 5th gear pull RPM PSI 2105 1 2209 2 2373 3 2598 4 2801 5 3076 6 3314 7 3426 8 3549 9 3680 10 |
Here is my turbo spool data for my BEGi S6 kit GT2860 turbo with Tial 38mm external wastegate with 8.7 psi spring. Full 3" catless exhaust is causing boost creep up to 11.5 to 12.0 psi even with the 8.7 psi spring in the wastegate.
Started runs from 1500 RPM up to a hair over 7000 in 4th gear on a 6 speed with 4.3 rear gear. 2000 1.5 psi 2500 2.7 psi 3000 4.5 psi 3500 7.5 psi Wastegate is cracking open here with the 8.7 psi spring. 4000 10.0 psi 4500 10.8 psi 5000 11.2 psi 5500 11.7 psi 6000 11.3 psi 6500 10.6 psi 7000 11.2 psi I am wondering if with a manual boost controller I can improve spool up without making the boost creep worse. Keith |
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Engine: 2000, 1.8L
Turbo: GT2560R Manifod: ? Exhaust Components: Racing Beat full exhaust Intercooler Core Size: 18"x12"x3" Intake Manifold: Stock Headwork: Mild Porting Engine Management: Adaptronics Other Spoolin' Helpers/Hurters: Eagle rods, Wiseco pistons Trans & Rear End Ratio: 5-speed Rear tire size: 195/50r/15 4th gear pull @ 18psi https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1414283308 |
What is your actual boost vs RPM? I just installed this same turbo and am curious as to how it looks on your 1.8 compared to my 1.6.
Also, that spot where your AFRs flatlined is hurting your spool. Do you know how fat it actually was there? Probably in the 9's? That dip in the TQ curve from 35-4500RPM is related. Any particular reason you made it that rich when you were tuning it? |
Originally Posted by matthewdesigns
(Post 1178658)
What is your actual boost vs RPM? I just installed this same turbo and am curious as to how it looks on your 1.8 compared to my 1.6.
Also, that spot where your AFRs flatlined is hurting your spool. Do you know how fat it actually was there? Probably in the 9's? That dip in the TQ curve from 35-4500RPM is related. Any particular reason you made it that rich when you were tuning it? |
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Engine: 1999, 1.8L
Turbo: TD04HL-20T-6cm (OEM Caliber SRT4 turbo, with 6cm housing) Manifold: Custom log Exhaust Components: 3" DP, 2.5" back, 1 glasspack, Roadstersport3 muffler Intercooler Core Size: 11"x12"x3" Intake Manifold: Stock Headwork: Stock Engine Management: DIYPNP, sequential fuel Other Spoolin' Helpers/Hurters: EBC, ID1000's, Toyota COP Trans & Rear End Ratio: 5-speed, 4.30 Rear tire size: 205/40/16 3th gear pull @ 9psi I have some work to do tuning the EBC between 3-4000 rpm, I can definitely reach full boost by around 3200. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1415553166 |
Originally Posted by acedeuce802
(Post 1181746)
Engine: 1999, 1.8L
Turbo: TD04HL-20T-6cm (OEM Caliber SRT4 turbo, with 6cm housing) Manifold: Custom log Exhaust Components: 3" DP, 2.5" back, 1 glasspack, Roadstersport3 muffler Intercooler Core Size: 11"x12"x3" Intake Manifold: Stock Headwork: Stock Engine Management: DIYPNP, sequential fuel Other Spoolin' Helpers/Hurters: EBC, ID1000's, Toyota COP Trans & Rear End Ratio: 5-speed, 4.30 Rear tire size: 205/40/16 3th gear pull @ 9psi I have some work to do tuning the EBC between 3-4000 rpm, I can definitely reach full boost by around 3200. https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1415553166 We enjoy people thinking outside the box on their turbo builds, but as an engineer you should know to keep the data similar for comparison. :facepalm: |
Originally Posted by 2manyhobyz
(Post 1181807)
Mr aceduce802, perhaps you'd like to share with the class why we are not seeing a boost/rpm comparison? And furthermore, why in god's name did you choose 3rd (or 3th gear as you put it) , as clearly this isn't a 1:1 ratio as stated at the beginning of this thread?
We enjoy people thinking outside the box on their turbo builds, but as an engineer you should know to keep the data similar for comparison. :facepalm: |
if you want your data to be relevant please do it in 1:1 gear and start at 2k rpm.
please. otherwise its pretty much useless |
Engine: 1999, 1.8L
Turbo: TD04HL-20T-6cm (OEM Caliber SRT4 turbo, with 6cm housing) Manifold: Custom log Exhaust Components: 3" DP, 2.5" back, 1 glasspack, Roadstersport3 muffler Intercooler Core Size: 11"x12"x3" Intake Manifold: Stock Headwork: Stock Engine Management: DIYPNP, sequential fuel Other Spoolin' Helpers/Hurters: EBC, ID1000's, Toyota COP Trans & Rear End Ratio: 5-speed, 4.30 Rear tire size: 205/40/16 4th gear pull @ 9psi RPM Boost(psi) 2240 2.3 2310 2.9 2405 3.9 2522 4.9 2608 5.7 2713 6.6 2815 7.7 2904 8.3 3000 8.9 9 psi until redline |
Much better. And looks like the turbo comes on fairly quick, very similar to a t25
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Originally Posted by 18psi
(Post 1181891)
Much better. And looks like the turbo comes on fairly quick, very similar to a t25
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Engine: 2002 VVT, forged everything
Turbo: Precision 4828 Manifold: BEGI log Exhaust Components: 3" DP, 3" back, resonator and big magnaflow Intercooler Core Size: 11"x12"x3" Intake Manifold: stock VICs Headwork: Stock Engine Management: Rev MS3 Other Spoolin' Helpers/Hurters: DIY's EBC, ID650's, LS3 coils Trans & Rear End Ratio: 6-speed, ??? rearend Rear tire size: 175-14 snow tires! 5th gear pull @ peak of 21.77psi RPM Boost(psi) 2625 0.88 -TPS hits ~100%. Little high, but this was the latest log 2721 1.99 2820 3.23 2922 4.25 3014 5.03 3105 5.99 3266 7.8 3339 8.57 3414 9.6 3521 11.05 3753 14.94 4031 18.22 |
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Engine: 91 1.6
Turbo: T3 Churbo .42/.48 A/R, v-band outlet/ported IWG Manifold: Tacotaco Downpipe Size/Style: V-band 2.5" to 3.00" Exhaust Size: 2.5" to 3" Exhaust Components: Magnaflow 5x11x22 Muffler Intercooler Core Size: 5.5x27x2.5" Intake Manifold: Stock 1.6 Engine Management: Megasquirt "DIYPNP" Other Spoolin' Helpers/Hurters: LS2 Coils, wastegate pressure Trans & Rear End Ratio: 5-speed, 4.3 VLSD Rear tire size: 205/50-15 4th Gear Pull RPM Boost PSI 2000 0.3 2100 0.8 2200 1.4 2300 2.1 2400 2.9 2500 3.6 2600 4.5 2700 5.3 2800 5.9 2900 6.5 3000 6.8 3100 7.0 <-- 7psi Churbo wastegate 3250 7.1 3500 7.2 3750 7.1 4000 7.2 4250 7.2 https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...ine=1417665216 |
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