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Laur3ns 07-29-2009 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by crashnscar (Post 436104)
Looks used? What is it, all that carbon build up in the exhaust outlet? :loser:


Originally Posted by TurboTim (Post 436121)
I seem to be looking a different picture than you.

Not the TiAL housing, but the compressor outlet has two spots:
Attachment 204482
or it's the light... :giggle:

ARTech 07-29-2009 03:23 PM

$1400USD, thats more like full race

TurboTim 07-29-2009 03:24 PM


Originally Posted by sprayed (Post 436194)
All I'm saying is, full race is expensive because that's what the work/quality is worth. I thought they were more than $800 anyway

I am glad Full Race gets what they get for their product. They are very nice manifolds, I hope it doesn't come across that I think they as a fabricator suck. IMHO their is worth more than $800, as is my stuff, but no one would buy it ;)

I think the 4-1 collector by itself is better than mine, but in order to fit it you have to do all the other "roller coaster" pipes. I still don't think that collector combined with the required primaries will work as well as what I do for the applications the majority of we miata people use our car for.

I do not do anything to the inside of my collector in terms of smoothing/polishing/sanding, whatever.

I did REM polish Sav's SS manifold though.

Laur3ns 07-29-2009 03:26 PM


Originally Posted by Spookyfish (Post 436201)
I got quoted minimum EUR 1k for a race mani (equal length, firing order, fancy alloy, the works).


Originally Posted by sprayed (Post 436205)
$1400USD, thats more like full race

Yeah, that seems about right:
1000 EUR in USD - Google Search
1000 Euros = 1 403.2 U.S. dollars
:fawk:

TurboTim 07-29-2009 03:30 PM


Originally Posted by sprayed (Post 436205)
$1400USD, thats more like full race

A'ite, whatever. that's a bit much.

I got the mid$800's figure from the first mani I found on their site, the $842.19 "FG K Series ProStreet T3/44 Turbo Manifold".

Don't forget those 19 cents people.

But damn, their RX7 manifold is $1299...wow. It is pretty.

ARTech 07-29-2009 04:04 PM


Originally Posted by TurboTim (Post 436206)
I did REM polish Sav's SS manifold though.

nice!

what does that run if you don't mind me asking?

TurboTim 07-29-2009 04:12 PM


Originally Posted by sprayed (Post 436230)
nice!

what does that run if you don't mind me asking?

Free for me. ;)

It didn't do much on Sav's as I only had the time to stick it in the finish chemistry. Sorta made it a little more shiny. If I had the time, it should go thru the entire tumble/deburr & vibratory machines, etc. Next time.

We also have a couple shot peening machines here but I don't want that crap in the nooks/cranies of a turbo manifold :(

hustler 07-29-2009 10:54 PM

please make mine shiny too. lol

ARTech 07-30-2009 12:32 AM

shouldnt have said anything. now everyone's gonna want theirs polished free.

haha

TurboTim 07-30-2009 09:34 AM


Originally Posted by hustler (Post 436392)
please make mine shiny too. lol

By the time yours is ready to be finished, Sav should have some hours on his setup (hopefully). We'll all see how it turns out.

hustler 07-30-2009 09:49 AM


Originally Posted by sprayed (Post 436428)
shouldnt have said anything. now everyone's gonna want theirs polished free.

haha

I'm fairly certain Savington will polish your pipe for free. :giggle:

Miatamaniac92 07-30-2009 10:45 AM

Tim,
Would there be any advantage to splitting the flow going into the turbo (IE 1 and 2, divider, and then 3 and 4) instead of merging it in the manifold?

Chris

Braineack 07-30-2009 10:55 AM

reminds me of one of tim's first:

http://www.shoremotorsports.com/pics...ata/MMan12.jpg
http://www.shoremotorsports.com/pics...ata/MMan12.jpg

Saml01 07-30-2009 12:11 PM


Originally Posted by sprayed (Post 436177)
cuts are made right before or right after the start of the bend. by the middle of the bend all primaries are joined, 1 and 4 at close to 90 degrees. this is your typical merge collector like those used on full race manis:

http://i154.photobucket.com/albums/s...r-inside-1.jpg
l

Someone please explain how this is made. please please please.

TurboTim 07-30-2009 12:14 PM


Originally Posted by Miatamaniac92 (Post 436583)
Tim,
Would there be any advantage to splitting the flow going into the turbo (IE 1 and 2, divider, and then 3 and 4) instead of merging it in the manifold?

Chris

I don't know.


Originally Posted by Braineack (Post 436587)

Ahh yes, the frankenmani. That fucker worked pretty well, but a little laggy with the 2560 on a 1.6. I started with the one front pipe as just a placeholder to make sure I could fit a downpipe, intercooler pipes, etc with A/C and P/S and clear the hood, figuring I'd redo it if the turbo location was good. Ended up deciding to make the back pipe cause I was half way done and, being my first mani, didn't know if it'd explode in a few miles anyway and I didn't want to spend the time on a nice manifold if my welds sucked. It was a very simple manifold to do with just 90° bends...the 3" downpipe was easy and smooth too. One of the local miata guys has it, or Olderguy has it, I think it's sitting around somewhere. 1.6l.

TurboTim 07-30-2009 12:15 PM


Originally Posted by Saml01 (Post 436612)
Someone please explain how this is made. please please please.

I already explained one way to make it.

EDIT:


Originally Posted by TurboTim (Post 436157)
8... Or if you want to DIY, the straight cut that goes into making a 4-1 collector is significantly easier cause it's made on a straight pipe. Shit, you could print out a paper template if you have a halfway decent CAD program, wrap it around the pipe & draw a line with a sharpie, then go to town with your band saw or cutoff wheel. Simple. Quick. Easy. If you screw up following your line, not a big deal. Sand flat with a belt sander. You're making the bends of the primaries mate up to the collector, so the angles don't need to be dead-nuts.


Saml01 07-30-2009 12:40 PM


Originally Posted by TurboTim (Post 436616)
I already explained one way to make it.

EDIT:

Sue me Tim, I have no idea how to decode any of that.

I cant figure out how you get from four pipes into one pipe, and have them look like the four pipes are all one piece and each pipe is separated.

crashnscar 07-30-2009 01:26 PM


Originally Posted by Saml01 (Post 436634)
Sue me Tim, I have no idea how to decode any of that.

I cant figure out how you get from four pipes into one pipe, and have them look like the four pipes are all one piece and each pipe is separated.

Sounds like you shouldn't be making a manifold then.

TurboTim 07-30-2009 03:00 PM

hahaha.

It takes skill, patience, and practice. The right tools help too.

hustler 07-30-2009 03:08 PM

http://forum.vwsport.com/pics/data/5...m/DSCN1913.JPG
http://forum.vwsport.com/pics/data/5...m/DSCN1933.JPG


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