Spookyfish rebuilding daily/track car - Miata Turbo Forum - Boost cars, acquire cats.

Welcome to Miataturbo.net   Members
 


General Miata Chat A place to talk about anything Miata

Reply
 
 
 
LinkBack Thread Tools
Old 08-20-2008, 06:08 AM   #1
Elite AbsurdFlow Member
Thread Starter
 
Laur3ns's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Enschede, NL
Posts: 2,058
Total Cats: 11
Cool Spookyfish rebuilding daily/track car

Ok, so the history is here:
https://www.miataturbo.net/forum/showthread.php?t=24355

The 1994 MX-5 1.8 will be rebuild as a daily-drivable track-capable car. I want reliability more than anything. So cooling and management are of great concern. Power goal is around 220rwhp.

Draft specs:
- 1.8 w/Supertech internals, balanced crank, flywheel, clutch
- New OEM HLA's
- BEGI MF w/ceramic coating
- BEGI SS SG downpipe, OEM cat
- GT2554R (rebuild) w/ceramic coating
- BEGI cool air box and turbo heat shield
- BEGI IC #2 w/bypass valve and water bypass
- BEGI racer coolant re-route
- BEGI radiator cover
- RC 550cc injectors w/wire clips
- SS Oil/coolant lines
- Mishimoto radiator + 2x12" fans (parallel)
- MSPNP +IAT +LC1 +GMBoostControl +KnocksenseMS
- ACT HD clutch kit w/street disc
- MazdaSpeed motor mounts
- OEM modified dual feed rail
- Turbo-capable PCV valve

This I have ready to install:
- Hard Dog Ace Bar
- Carbing shock tower brace
- Spoiler lip

This stuff is already on the car:
- GC 375F/250R w/Bilstein B6
- FCM 46mm bump stops
- EBC green stuff w/SS brake lines
- 15x8 6UL +36 silver Toyo T1R 195/50R15 (R888 next)
- Racing Beat 94-97 Tubular Front 1.125"
- Racing Beat 90-05 Rear 0,625"
- OEM hard top

Wish list:
- Oil cooler
- Race cat w/3" cat back
- LSD
- EGT probe

I will post pictures/updates are we go along. The current state is that the old engine is out for the rebuild.

Comments welcome especially w/regards to track capability!

This is what the car sort-of looks like currently.
Attached Thumbnails
Spookyfish rebuilding daily/track car-21062008-002-.jpg  
Laur3ns is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2008, 06:04 PM   #2
Elite AbsurdFlow Member
Thread Starter
 
Laur3ns's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Enschede, NL
Posts: 2,058
Total Cats: 11
Default

No comments, not even bashing?
Laur3ns is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2008, 06:13 PM   #3
Elite Member
iTrader: (14)
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: Edmonton, AB
Posts: 4,921
Total Cats: 0
Default

I like your wheels
jayc72 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2008, 06:15 PM   #4
Elite Member
iTrader: (46)
 
Stein's Avatar
 
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Nebraska
Posts: 4,812
Total Cats: 138
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spookyfish View Post
No comments, not even bashing?
I guess the 129 replies to the other thread isn't enough?

Looking good so far.
Stein is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2008, 06:17 PM   #5
Elite AbsurdFlow Member
Thread Starter
 
Laur3ns's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Enschede, NL
Posts: 2,058
Total Cats: 11
Default

Ok, I will take some pics of the remains tomorrow when I visit the shop
Laur3ns is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2008, 06:29 PM   #6
Elite Member
iTrader: (2)
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: ABQ, NM
Posts: 1,850
Total Cats: -8
Default

If it's going to be a track capable car you need to dump the EBC pads, and move the oil cooler to installed list rather than on the wish list.
BenR is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-20-2008, 07:47 PM   #7
Tour de Franzia
iTrader: (6)
 
hustler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Republic of Dallas
Posts: 29,114
Total Cats: 351
Default

we basically have the same car...lol.

I've been making myself sick thinking about the money I spent on my nickel 6UL's, then I see a picture of them on a car and all the pain goes away. lol
hustler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-21-2008, 06:04 AM   #8
Elite AbsurdFlow Member
Thread Starter
 
Laur3ns's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Enschede, NL
Posts: 2,058
Total Cats: 11
Default

Bummer, de GT2554R is dead, but ball bearing turbo's do not repair. They have to be exchanged, but Garrett only has an exchange program in de US. Will contact BEGI to work something out hopefully...

Pictures of the internals:
Attached Thumbnails
Spookyfish rebuilding daily/track car-21082008-001-.jpg   Spookyfish rebuilding daily/track car-21082008-002-.jpg   Spookyfish rebuilding daily/track car-21082008-003-.jpg   Spookyfish rebuilding daily/track car-21082008-004-.jpg   Spookyfish rebuilding daily/track car-21082008.jpg  

Laur3ns is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-21-2008, 08:43 AM   #9
Elite AbsurdFlow Member
Thread Starter
 
Laur3ns's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Enschede, NL
Posts: 2,058
Total Cats: 11
Default

Mishimoto rad received w/12" fans:
Attached Thumbnails
Spookyfish rebuilding daily/track car-21082008-005-.jpg   Spookyfish rebuilding daily/track car-21082008-006-.jpg  
Laur3ns is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-21-2008, 10:13 AM   #10
Tour de Franzia
iTrader: (6)
 
hustler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Republic of Dallas
Posts: 29,114
Total Cats: 351
Default

looks like detonation...how did the motor die?
hustler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-21-2008, 01:52 PM   #11
Elite Member
iTrader: (13)
 
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Tigard, Oregon
Posts: 3,908
Total Cats: 0
Default

Hard Dog Ace - Not a good bar for the track. Maybe it passes tech were you are at but a lot of clubs wouldn't pass it here. You'll want to ask around before you install it. You don't have to have SCCA approved bars but the ace sits lower and further back than just anything else out there.

ABSOLUTELY you have to get something better than the Green Stuffs. I destroyed my Red Stuffs in one track day. They worked great pre-FI but stopping from 90mph is very different than 120! If you like EBC try the Yellows. Not many folks around here like EBC though.

I did the same install with the fans and rad. Had trouble with cooling. While you have it out, build a shroud. You'll want to draw air from the whole rad, not just the little circle where the fans are. Easy project while you have the rad out. Sheet metal, abs, lexan, etc. Whatever you've got lying around to use.
cueball1 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-21-2008, 04:59 PM   #12
Elite AbsurdFlow Member
Thread Starter
 
Laur3ns's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Enschede, NL
Posts: 2,058
Total Cats: 11
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by hustler View Post
looks like detonation...how did the motor die?
The shop also thinks detonation. Either AFPR was seriously misadjusted (I doubt it since the needle was almost in) or bad or the engine on the verge of collapse combined with high intake temps. I would recommend against running without a Wideband O2 at > 0 psi.
Laur3ns is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-21-2008, 05:07 PM   #13
Elite AbsurdFlow Member
Thread Starter
 
Laur3ns's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Enschede, NL
Posts: 2,058
Total Cats: 11
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by cueball1 View Post
Hard Dog Ace - Not a good bar for the track. Maybe it passes tech were you are at but a lot of clubs wouldn't pass it here. You'll want to ask around before you install it. You don't have to have SCCA approved bars but the ace sits lower and further back than just anything else out there.
I thought about this and I will have a racing seat mounted lower than now. Having the bar further back also saves my head from running into it on the street (with no helmet). It for sure is a trade off that I hope will never expose itself.

Quote:
ABSOLUTELY you have to get something better than the Green Stuffs. I destroyed my Red Stuffs in one track day. They worked great pre-FI but stopping from 90mph is very different than 120! If you like EBC try the Yellows. Not many folks around here like EBC though.
Most aftermarket shops do EBC around here, but I will be replacing them when they wear out (soon I suppose). What are you running discs/pads?

Quote:
I did the same install with the fans and rad. Had trouble with cooling. While you have it out, build a shroud. You'll want to draw air from the whole rad, not just the little circle where the fans are. Easy project while you have the rad out. Sheet metal, abs, lexan, etc. Whatever you've got lying around to use.
Do you have pictures of your shroud? I suppose a shroud does wonders when the fans come on (stop and go) but doesn't it hinder when they are now? That is, restrict air flow through the rad?

Thanks!
Laur3ns is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-21-2008, 05:48 PM   #14
Tour de Franzia
iTrader: (6)
 
hustler's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Republic of Dallas
Posts: 29,114
Total Cats: 351
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spookyfish View Post
The shop also thinks detonation. Either AFPR was seriously misadjusted (I doubt it since the needle was almost in) or bad or the engine on the verge of collapse combined with high intake temps. I would recommend against running without a Wideband O2 at > 0 psi.
maybe I meant to say "looks lean"
hustler is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2008, 07:20 PM   #15
Elite AbsurdFlow Member
Thread Starter
 
Laur3ns's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Enschede, NL
Posts: 2,058
Total Cats: 11
Default

Well, a turbo center section is about the same as a new turbo ($90 between them), so now that I had the chance to get a different turbo, I've decided to get the GT2560R. Still with my ~ 220 rwhp power goal in mind, but better efficiency and more head room. I am not too worried about boost threshold with this one, but think the GT2860R would be too slow for me.
Laur3ns is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-25-2008, 07:28 PM   #16
Elite Member
iTrader: (17)
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: NY
Posts: 1,614
Total Cats: 2
Default

you'll like the 2560
TonyV is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-26-2008, 07:07 PM   #17
Elite AbsurdFlow Member
Thread Starter
 
Laur3ns's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Enschede, NL
Posts: 2,058
Total Cats: 11
Default

Almost everything is ordered now. I am getting new HLA's, Supertech pistons 83.5mm 8.6:1, Belfab H-beam rods, full gasket set, ARP studs, new bearings.

Waiting for the new GT2560R to get ready. Hopefully most stuff will ship by the end of this week so they can get started next week.

MSPNP arrived this week with all the goodies. Probably won't be able to test it until the car is in some state with an engine...
Laur3ns is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2008, 04:46 PM   #18
Elite AbsurdFlow Member
Thread Starter
 
Laur3ns's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Enschede, NL
Posts: 2,058
Total Cats: 11
Thumbs up

Most of the ECU stuff is in now: MSPNP, IAT, KnocksenseMS (not in picture), GM Boost Control Solenoid, new plugs, air filter, spark plug cables, LC-1 w/Gauge.

Also discussed the install: they are going to balance the crank, flywheel (and shave the ring off) and the clutch when it gets there. Waiting now for the engine parts (pistons, rods) to come in so they can start with the work. Should take about three weeks including dyno runs.

Also talked about oil cooler which they highly recommend. Going with the Mocal sandwich plate w/thermostat. They are also going to source VDO gauges (vac/boost and oil temp).

Also talked about the knock sensor which they will attach directly to the cylinder wall instead of a motor mount. The oil temp sender will be drilled in the pan as the safest location.

See pictures:
Attached Thumbnails
Spookyfish rebuilding daily/track car-27082008.jpg   Spookyfish rebuilding daily/track car-27082008-001-.jpg   Spookyfish rebuilding daily/track car-27082008-002-.jpg   Spookyfish rebuilding daily/track car-27082008-005-.jpg  
Laur3ns is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2008, 04:53 PM   #19
Elite AbsurdFlow Member
Thread Starter
 
Laur3ns's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2008
Location: Enschede, NL
Posts: 2,058
Total Cats: 11
Cool

I've also ordered the steering wheel:


More angles:


It's a 35cm 90mm (3.5") deep dish suede wheel.
Laur3ns is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-27-2008, 05:24 PM   #20
Elite Member
iTrader: (6)
 
Join Date: Nov 2007
Location: Southlake,Texas
Posts: 3,251
Total Cats: 17
Default

Quote:
Originally Posted by Spookyfish View Post
No comments, not even bashing?
195's on a 8 inch wheel FTL
Bond is offline   Reply With Quote
 
 
Reply

Related Topics
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
[CT] 1999 Mazda Miata 10th Anniversary Edition - $5800 Jike Spingleton Cars for sale/trade 3 09-20-2016 05:33 PM
What happened to my Dynalite? midpack Suspension, Brakes, Drivetrain 18 09-22-2015 08:52 PM
Bp5a swap NA8 Will_da_beast Engine Performance 1 09-14-2015 08:06 PM
WTB parts for HPDE car Voltwings WTB 5 09-11-2015 09:23 AM
First to get it out of the way main Meet and Greet 1 09-05-2015 01:39 PM


Thread Tools

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off



All times are GMT -4. The time now is 10:26 AM.