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Old 02-14-2012, 11:34 AM   #81
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so you need less fuel...
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How much fuel should I remove. I got it idling yesterday and afr was oscillating between 16 and 18:1. I will try reloading the map I was doing that on
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How much fuel should I remove. I got it idling yesterday and afr was oscillating between 16 and 18:1. I will try reloading the map I was doing that on
If it's between 16 and 18:1...then it's way too lean and you need to add fuel. Remember, the higher the number means more air per fuel, hence air/ fuel ratio.
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idling does not equal cranking now does it?
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idling does not equal cranking now does it?
Like I said...wait until it fully warms up, then adjust fuel VE table for correct AFR. Afterwards, Cranking/ warmup, adjustments will need to be made, because those tables are all based off of fuel VE1.
Let's say that you adjusted Fuel VE1 by taking fuel out of the idle cells to make it idle correctly...now it'll actually lean it out during warmup, so you have to add percentages to the warmup table. Know what I mean?
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Old 02-14-2012, 02:12 PM   #86
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No it actually idled for like a minute yesterday. I was reviewing my data logs from yesterday the afr was actually bang on between 14 and 15. It went up went I touched the throttle and then it stalled. I got it to start all of one time today without using the throttle and it dies right away.
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Add fuel. Your afr's are too lean on startup, that's why it died when you hit the throttle.
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Old 02-14-2012, 11:26 PM   #88
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I'm so confused and I hate this thing. I wish I could just put on some fake glasses and my "intense" face and 15 sweaty minutes later have the best tuned miata ever. However I mainly just sit there change fuel try to start, fail, repeat. I will look into the glasses though...that could be my biggest issue...
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Just open your spark table while the car is running. If it says 10 on the cell where it's running at, shoot the balancer with your timing light and it should read 10 as well...simple.
About that...It says ignition advance is 16degrees
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Old 02-15-2012, 01:37 AM   #90
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About that...It says ignition advance is 16degrees
I know, I looked at your spark table. That's fine if it's 16*, just shoot your balancer with a timing light and see if it's physically at 16*. Then you know it's calibrated correctly. I'm sure it's dead on though, unless your FM timing wheel is retarded. (No pun intended), I mean Timing.
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I'm so confused and I hate this thing. I wish I could just put on some fake glasses and my "intense" face and 15 sweaty minutes later have the best tuned miata ever. However I mainly just sit there change fuel try to start, fail, repeat. I will look into the glasses though...that could be my biggest issue...
I told you MS would **** you off...
I also told you that after the frustration is over, you'll be like "this is the best thing I ever did to my car".
Want me to come over and school you this weekend?
Since it starts up and runs for a bit, it shouldn't be that hard to get dialed in.
I believe that I gained patience because I have a megasquirt. Nobody came to my house and held my hand, I had to F with it that same way you're doing it now...by posting on a forum and hoping someone would respond with an answer. The rest was all trial and error.
I can come to you, show you what base settings you need to make...what affects what, etc.
We'll get it straightened out.
I have off Saturday and Sunday as usual, so let me know what's up.
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Old 02-15-2012, 01:50 AM   #92
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Imagine if we all had to learn how to use Megasquirt... and there was no internet!

^^ that is a great offer. I wish I had someone to show me in person what to do. As it is I am so grateful for the support system that exists here.
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Old 02-15-2012, 01:59 AM   #93
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I can say this, if there was no Miataturbo.net...my car would not be running on a megasquirt. Hell, if there was no internet, I'd probably be running a carburated 5.0 V8!
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Old 02-15-2012, 09:52 AM   #94
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I will keep screwing with it and see how it goes. It's just annoying because it went from idling to not starting. And yes the interweb is amazing
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Old 02-15-2012, 01:30 PM   #95
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Well looks like I'll be working on this all day because the shop I work at is so slow they don't need me....for the third time. Hopefully it will move today!
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Just remember to not make any fuel VE1 changes until it's fully warmed up, as it will affect other things like warmup, etc.
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Old 02-15-2012, 01:42 PM   #97
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That's what I'm really confused about. I got it to start with rev's map. I got it to idle by changing the fuel VE1. Should I just regress back to rev's map and change the start up idle settings and try and get it to warm up that way?
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Yes.
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Old 02-15-2012, 02:20 PM   #99
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Ok I'll do that and if I get it idling I'll just let it sit for a few minutes.
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Old 02-15-2012, 03:02 PM   #100
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The confusion. I haz it! WTF, for realz though. After lots of efing with it. It just starts right up like its nobodies business and ideals at 1500 rpm. Only its reading stupid lean. This only happened after changing required fuel to 7.45, which makes little sense. Todd how did you come up with 7.45? The calculator on tuner studio says it should be 6.2.
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