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icantlearn 11-17-2020 07:21 PM


Originally Posted by EO2K (Post 1586187)

Make this a T-Shirt and ill wear it.

dan91 11-20-2020 10:53 AM

It's been a week. Anyone get a refund?

XeNoMoRpH 11-20-2020 11:29 AM

Negative. I suspect if you order another turbo kit from a respectable vendor, your whole kit would be installed on your car before any refunds are issued. That is me being pessimistic though. I would gladly like to be proved wrong.

The reality is either there are a crazy amount of refunds to be issued, or the money has already be allocated elsewhere.

As an observation, there was only movement on TSE's part when sixshooter had mentioned FTC and the California Department of Consumer Affairs.

concealer404 11-20-2020 12:21 PM

I have to wonder how gullible some of you are in real life...

matrussell122 11-20-2020 12:33 PM

You guys will never get your money back from TSE until ALL OF YOU start putting legal pressure on him. Seriously its been months and he hasnt done anything. Bring down the hammer and get your money back.

sixshooter 11-20-2020 12:36 PM

Has anyone actually filed a complaint anywhere with a government agency or are you people just going to whine like a bunch of six year olds that didn't get your candy? There are necessary and proper methods for dealing with this kind of thing and I'm not detecting anything but gum flapping going on here. I'm not impressed. And I'm sure he's not either.

I know that most of you have not ever dealt with business & regulatory agencies but they exist specifically for issues like this and can be somewhat user-friendly depending upon the agency. I find it laughable that some of you were willing to sit on hold for 45 minutes to get a internet service technician scheduled to come to your home but you aren't interested in recovering hundreds or thousands of dollars through filing a simple report. I'm not saying you deserve what you are getting but I am saying you're not doing anything to show it matters to you.

So, yeah. Whine more in this thread and see what that gets you.

dan91 11-20-2020 02:06 PM

I merely asked if anyone had gotten a refund. If someone has, fine I can wait until he gets to me. If no one has, then it makes more sense to pursue other options.

concealer404 11-20-2020 02:17 PM

It made sense to pursue other options 2 days after you were indirectly told in a vague email that you were getting a refund. A one man show blowing smoke up your ass about "processing" a refund in 2020 is wild. It takes a whole 2 minutes maximum per person to issue a refund if the business has the funds available and has an intention of making good.

We're not trying to shit on you, but dear lord ya'all are patient and accepting to the point that you're screwing yourselves.

Jesse99James 11-20-2020 03:55 PM


Originally Posted by concealer404 (Post 1586614)
We're not trying to shit on you, but dear lord ya'all are patient and accepting to the point that you're screwing yourselves.

Yes, this would be my take on the situation! I've already done two credit card charge back disputes this crazy, 2020 year and might be forced to do a PayPal dispute. Know your time limit to dispute and don't neglect following through if a seller can't provide your paid item/s. If they won't refund and allow you to repurchase to extend your payment protection then screw them, time to throw in the towel and move on.

Two of the companies I ordered from were one of a kind and I may never be able to get those items. I will try again next year with one company...if they're still in business. The third item will cost me 3-4x to switch to another brand plus hours upon hours of install and setup time. I'm trying to be patient as I still have a few months to dispute the charge but will not let the seller keep my money without providing the service/merchandise to which they agreed.

:facepalm: :bang: :gtfo: Maybe start a list here so you know how many are involved and where they are located. Might be able to get multiple agencies applying pressure.

XeNoMoRpH 11-23-2020 04:12 PM

I have filed a report with the FTC as a starter. We will see if anything progresses from there.

XeNoMoRpH 12-07-2020 09:24 AM

I've received a refund from Andrew, so that transaction is complete.

dan91 12-07-2020 09:51 AM

I just saw the transaction in my account as well. It worked out in the end

sixshooter 12-11-2020 01:50 PM


Originally Posted by dan91 (Post 1587950)
I just saw the transaction in my account as well. It worked out in the end

You consider this it working out?

I would consider it working out if something I paid for arrived in a reasonable period of time, was a quality product, and I had been using it successfully for the many months since I had paid for it. Think about your original expectations the moment you pressed the purchase button.

What you were describing is akin to being wrongfully convicted and spending time in prison, then being exonerated and released years later and saying, "Well, I'm glad that all worked out."

You've suffered a loss at the hands of another through no fault of your own. I'm pleased that you have been reimbursed but I hope you would agree it would have been far better not to have had the problem created for you initially.

The Australian 03-08-2021 03:45 PM

Power steering low pressure line
 
I’ve just put my engine + Trackspeed combination back in the car, and see now that the compressor outlet clocked at the recommended 45d towards the block, runs into a tangle of powersteering lines.

Has anyone come up with any neat solutions to redirect these lines?

a/c is deleted.

catalyst 03-08-2021 04:20 PM

I had to relocate the ps fluid reservoir. Still was a bit of a mess. A portion of that failed eventually and I just went with a manual steering rack. Life's been easier without it.. except for in parking lots. Either way it's definitely something that needs to be addressed.

IcantDo55 03-08-2021 04:30 PM


Originally Posted by The Australian (Post 1594715)
I’ve just put my engine + Trackspeed combination back in the car, and see now that the compressor outlet clocked at the recommended 45d towards the block, runs into a tangle of powersteering lines.

Has anyone come up with any neat solutions to redirect these lines?

a/c is deleted.

Had no issues. Post Pic of your problem. Mine an nb. Don't know if that matters

jt@namiata.com 03-08-2021 04:52 PM

I don't have a good pic, unfortunately, but the short answer is yes. I did it with both AC and PS, no relocation of PS reservoir. Used FM pre-formed silicone charge pipe. One thing I do remember is slightly re-clocking so that the outlet was closer to the sheet metal "shelf".

That said, my VVT motor is going in without AC or PS.

borka 03-08-2021 05:06 PM

I'm on kraken hardware, but should be same for Tse.
I chopped off the ps pump inlet that faced back and has a loop going to the reservoir, the revelded the outlet to point straight out, this got rid of the round loop that was in the way of the turbo.

Turbo clocked down and about 45 degrees facing engine block.

90 degree silicone elbow, 6" of straight pipe, into another 90 degree silicone elbow and into intercooler. This fits between the mess of hoses, its tight,, but it fits good..

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irollgen4s 03-09-2021 06:28 AM

I also run PS on my 90 with the TSE setup w/ FM silicon charge pipes and the fitment is extremely tight but the hot side goes directly inbetween all of the PS lines. Had to loosen the compressor housing and wiggle it inbetween. Not great fitment in regards to rubbing i'll admit.

The Australian 03-09-2021 09:35 PM


Originally Posted by borka (Post 1594724)
I'm on kraken hardware, but should be same for Tse.
I chopped off the ps pump inlet that faced back and has a loop going to the reservoir, the revelded the outlet to point straight out, this got rid of the round loop that was in the way of the turbo.

Turbo clocked down and about 45 degrees facing engine block.

90 degree silicone elbow, 6" of straight pipe, into another 90 degree silicone elbow and into intercooler. This fits between the mess of hoses, its tight,, but it fits good..

thanks Borka

Morello 03-10-2021 12:59 PM

Can anyone measure the length of the inconel studs that come with this kit? One of mine has ejected itself into neverneverland and I'm hoping to find out if Flyin Miata's studs are a drop in replacement without trying to remove the other three that are still present...

Gee Emm 03-10-2021 03:51 PM

Measure the depth of the hole? add exposed length and you have it. Or is that not possible for some reason?

dleavitt 03-10-2021 04:01 PM

They need to be trimmed. @curly

curly 03-10-2021 06:13 PM

I think one 1 or 2 do, but they’re easily cut.

yaszenn 03-29-2021 05:47 PM

Since it looks like TSE are on hiatus / out of the game, what's the next best option? Are Kraken manifolds just as good for sustained track abuse? Lurking here for a few years the TSE manifold was hailed as the second coming of Jesus so I'm wondering what the other best option is for an EFR setup.

Xaendeau 03-30-2021 12:31 AM


Originally Posted by yaszenn (Post 1596391)
Since it looks like TSE are on hiatus / out of the game, what's the next best option? Are Kraken manifolds just as good for sustained track abuse? Lurking here for a few years the TSE manifold was hailed as the second coming of Jesus so I'm wondering what the other best option is for an EFR setup.

They are the best DIY manifold on the market as far as I'm aware. Welded tubular manifolds become a consumable with track use. The type of cast manifold that Kracken and TSE offers are more durable.

I don't know what the Kraken kit comes with, stud wise. Inconel, ultra-expesive "extreme heat" threadlocker, and safety wire are your friends when trying to keep things together in these kinds of environments. The nice thing about the TSE kit was that its just sorted out for you. If you never have safety wired things together before, lookup how they use it for aircraft. Inconel studs (bolts?) and/or exotic thread locker works too.

irollgen4s 03-30-2021 08:15 AM

Kraken has more than a few customers who's cars see regular track abuse. If you follow his facebook he shares a lot of his customers pictures and video's. I've seen many red glowing manifolds and still haven't heard of a single one that's cracked. I ran a 1.6 one and a 1.8 one both of which were higher quality than my current TSE manifold.

I would still be running the Kraken setup if my buddy didn't give me a deal on his entire TSE kit and drivetrain swap.

Midtenn 03-30-2021 11:52 AM

@BEAVIS has been using a Kraken manifold on his car for awhile. I picked up a second hand (unused) Kraken EFR manifold and DP. It came with Inconel studs and copper lock nuts. I haven't gotten to abuse the kit yet, but hopefully I'll get a chance this summer/fall.

yaszenn 03-31-2021 07:18 AM

Thanks fellas, I'll def go with Kraken in that case.

Caterpillar 04-01-2021 01:56 AM

Kraken comes with inconel studs and copper lock nuts. These are more than enough for a streetcar.

The manifold had survived all my times on track, but I am slow. I did loose a stud though, so if you want to track your car you want to upgrade these with stage 8 locking hardware and some resbond. I think miatatroadster sells a small bottle that is more then enough.

emilio700 04-01-2021 10:39 AM

I'm wondering if it might be time to start an entirely new All Things Kraken thread and lock this one. It doesn't seem like Andrew has any intent of producing anymore manifolds or complete turbo kits. If anyone has a question about TSE they could start a new thread.

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Ted75zcar 04-01-2021 01:16 PM


Originally Posted by emilio700 (Post 1596703)
I'm wondering if it might be time to start an entirely new all things Kraken thread and lock this one. It doesn't seem like Andrew has any intent of producing anymore manifolds for complete turbo kits. If anyone has a question about the TSE they could start a new thread.

.02

I second


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