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Morello 08-19-2016 05:16 PM

Sav - you've got email. Hopefully it makes it through this time

Savington 08-19-2016 06:09 PM

Upper downpipes are here, NB lowers due here next week. There will be a delay on NA uppers, so NA customers will have the option of taking an NB lower and building a custom test pipe or cat pipe to get them on the road quicker (any muffler shop can do this).

Justaturbo95 08-21-2016 08:53 AM

:yippee:

Mobius 08-24-2016 11:11 PM

:party:

Morello 08-31-2016 09:32 PM

Another "you've got email" post

Savington 09-08-2016 08:22 PM

Tracking for all 99-05 downpipes can be found in your email inboxes. :party:

Lokiel 09-08-2016 09:25 PM

Torn between:

https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...972c86073a.gif

And:
https://cimg8.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...6a2cf039d4.gif



shuiend 09-08-2016 09:27 PM

What is the status on the NA down pipes?

icantlearn 09-08-2016 10:08 PM

:rofl:

Lokiel 09-08-2016 10:31 PM

She's even wearing a "T"rack"S"peed top!

Onyxyth 09-09-2016 07:44 PM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1359636)
What is the status on the NA down pipes?

I'm slowly creeping up on being ready to install, so I'm curious as well.

Savington 09-09-2016 08:15 PM

NA pipes are due here on/around the 19th of this month. Will ship same day to NA guys. If any NA guys want an NB pipe now (if you are doing a custom exhaust anyway, for instance), just shoot me an email and I can send one on Monday.

1kestrel 09-12-2016 07:13 PM

Any updates on the intercooler part of the "kit"?

1999NB 09-13-2016 04:09 PM


Originally Posted by MiataMan00 (Post 1347870)
Sav, I sent u a couple emails. Please get back to me


Originally Posted by Uncle Humjaba (Post 1355158)
Sav - you've got email. Hopefully it makes it through this time

I emailed also - no reply. Maybe email abyss.


Originally Posted by Der_Idiot (Post 1348421)
I'm on my 3rd week of driving with the new manifold and turbo. Things are going well, no problems to report from either. I found a few head/manifold nuts loose on their studs over the weekend, probably a result of my cross-country commute. After re-torquing them I haven't seen them loose since. Stage8 hardware is holding true and the studs haven't moved either. Replaced that breather filter with a parts store cheapie (non-k&n) and haven't had the melty issues since as well. Had to flush the brake fluid though, d4 brake fluid is already getting toasted without a shield :party:

What intercooler are you using?


Originally Posted by soospecmx5 (Post 1349020)
Do you have an expected ETA for a complete kit? I'm dying to install my kit... :/ TIA!

Maybe 2017.


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1338731)
Intercooler and piping is next, yes. I have rough protos built but still need to polish them up and get first articles from my supplier. Concurrent development will happen on a heat shielding solution for the turbine/downpipe to keep the heater hoses, brake lines, etc. all happy and alive.

3 months ago - any status? This is what has held me back from buying the kit. The fact that it's a) incomplete, b) delivery time is completely unknown, and c) poor communication. :hs:


Originally Posted by 1kestrel (Post 1360389)
Any updates on the intercooler part of the "kit"?

See above post from 3mo ago. Or just run without the IC, what could possibly happen? :burncash:

Onyxyth 09-13-2016 04:17 PM

Where are you guys sending emails to? Andrew usually replies within a few hours - usually minutes.

info@trackspeedengineering.com

Savington 09-13-2016 05:09 PM

Sometimes I can get back to quick emails immediately, and sometimes I'm up to my elbows in grease (like this week). I try to tag anything that needs a reply and run through that list every 48hrs. If you don't see a reply in that timeframe, just bug me again.

Lokiel 09-14-2016 01:48 AM

A 2-piece bent didgeridoo just arrived here in Australia - WooHoo!

This guy said "It's broken!":
https://cimg4.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...c6d74ed777.jpg


stoves 09-15-2016 05:51 PM

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Just unboxed the down pipe and oil/water lines kit. Wow is all I can say. The welds on the vband are so nice as well as on the flex joint and cat flange. Super nice down pipe and definitely worth the wait.

Great job on everything so far Andrew! This fucking rocks so hard.

Can't remember my sign on for flickr. Sorry. Also picture quality sucks. I took these on my way out the door for work in my garage at 6am. I ask for mercy.



https://cimg1.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...d8aab3fa5a.jpg

https://cimg3.ibsrv.net/gimg/www.mia...c05bb1ad23.jpg

turbofan 09-15-2016 05:57 PM

hatecat incoming if there's not a photo attached to your post by tonight

shuiend 09-15-2016 06:36 PM


Originally Posted by turbofan (Post 1361190)
hatecat incoming if there's not a photo attached to your post by tonight

What are you talking about. Hatecat? I will bust out the ban hammer.

18psi 09-15-2016 06:42 PM

:makeout:

farpolemiddle 09-17-2016 09:28 PM

Why no stickers with my stuff I buy you!!!

shuiend 09-19-2016 09:44 AM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1359900)
NA pipes are due here on/around the 19th of this month. Will ship same day to NA guys. If any NA guys want an NB pipe now (if you are doing a custom exhaust anyway, for instance), just shoot me an email and I can send one on Monday.

Hopefully they are going out today.

Mobius 09-19-2016 11:12 PM

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https://www.miataturbo.net/attachmen...1&d=1474341038

My "extender" arrived earlier last week. Not sure exactly how/where I'm supposed to apply suction, and it seems to have too many orifices. Maybe to accommodate "challenged" bros? Haz shop vac, will figure it out.

Savington 09-20-2016 01:08 AM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1361784)
Hopefully they are going out today.

Delivered too late to do anything with them today. Will ship all the NA lowers tomorrow.

NB bros, there was a slight hiccup in the production process, so the fit between the upper and lower is very loose (too loose). We will be shipping a thin sleeve to all the NB owners later this week to sort out that fitment issue.

shuiend 09-20-2016 08:58 AM

It the upper half of the down pipe the same for NA and NB? Any reason a NA down pipe wouldn't fit on a NB? I know it won't fit up to any off the shelf exhausts, but that really isn't an issue for me.

shuiend 09-20-2016 06:46 PM

I got my tracking number. So excited.

Onyxyth 09-20-2016 07:18 PM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1362154)
I got my tracking number. So excited.

Yuuuup! :skid:

Savington 09-20-2016 08:06 PM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1362026)
It the upper half of the down pipe the same for NA and NB? Any reason a NA down pipe wouldn't fit on a NB? I know it won't fit up to any off the shelf exhausts, but that really isn't an issue for me.

NA DP should fit fine on an NB if you can build a custom exhaust for it. Uppers are the same.

A couple of other notes. The NA guys who are still waiting for water lines will get their parts next week - I am waiting on a few bits to complete those oil/water line kits. In addition, there was a water fitting change for MY99 that means the 3/8" hoses I included with the water lines won't fit with NA motors, so if you're using an NA front water neck or NA water pump inlet, you need a 5/16" silicone hose instead of the 3/8" hose I gave you. If that's you, let me know and I'll drop a couple pieces of 5/16" in the mail when it arrives.

shuiend 09-21-2016 10:12 AM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1362170)
NA DP should fit fine on an NB if you can build a custom exhaust for it. Uppers are the same.

That works perfectly for me. Looking forward to getting the down pipe in so I can lay it next to my Absurdflow one and marvel at them until I get them on a car one day.

Onyxyth 09-21-2016 09:40 PM

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I didn't see any 'real life' pictures of the water / oil line kit so I figured I'd post some. The little anodized supports for the hard lines are super neat.


Attachment 232669
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turbofan 09-21-2016 09:43 PM

Looks like seriously nice stuff.

aidandj 09-22-2016 12:45 AM

Those hose clamp separators are cool. You can get em on ebay for pretty cheap (for other projects). I got a big pack of red ones for random hose separation.

Lokiel 09-22-2016 12:49 AM

Don't forget the Blue Loctite though!

shuiend 09-22-2016 04:47 PM

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Nibbles approves of the welds on the TSE NB down pipe.

Attachment 232699

Onyxyth 09-22-2016 10:18 PM

Hmm. Front or rear bung for the WB?

icantlearn 09-22-2016 10:54 PM


Originally Posted by Onyxyth (Post 1362745)
Hmm. Front or rear bung for the WB?

rear

Savington 09-23-2016 11:30 AM

Rear bung, yes. Front bung is futureproofing.

shuiend 09-23-2016 11:31 AM

I always like the lower rear bung due to making it easier to route O2 wires up into the cabin through the shifter turret hole.

shuiend 09-23-2016 11:38 AM

Also is there any reason to not weld the 2 pieces together instead of using the clamp? I am assuming the 2 piece design was more for shipping then a fitment issue?

Savington 09-23-2016 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1362842)
Also is there any reason to not weld the 2 pieces together instead of using the clamp? I am assuming the 2 piece design was more for shipping then a fitment issue?

You can weld them, sure. I would clamp them together securely first, then remove the DP as one piece to make sure you can clear everything on your car before welding. You don't want to weld it and then discover it can't be removed :)

I really need to carve out a couple of days and finish writing the instructions, but one item of note for 5-speed guys. There's a small ear of metal on the 5-speed that interferes with the downpipe. You'll need to stick a reciprocating saw up there and chop that off before installing. 6-speed guys can ignore this. Pics below:

Location of the ear. It serves no purpose:
Attachment 232677

Size of the ear after removal:
Attachment 232678

EO2K 09-23-2016 12:13 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1362848)
Size of the ear after removal:
https://i.imgur.com/1IVBUrkl.jpg?

I half expect to see a necklace made out of these things hanging on the wall in your shop :giggle:

shuiend 09-23-2016 12:38 PM

I am trying to figure out who is going to run a TSE setup with a 5 speed.

afm 09-23-2016 12:47 PM

Dyno reclassed TT cars gaming their dyno plots?

farpolemiddle 09-23-2016 01:28 PM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1362864)
I am trying to figure out who is going to run a TSE setup with a 5 speed.

I will be until I shred it. But I will also be running a stock block as well. Lets see what goes first. I will be using the low boost actuator to buy a little time. Was seriously going to build my current block but it just makes more sense to track down a VVT motor and 6 speed and do that all at once.

turbofan 09-23-2016 01:34 PM

I'm just loving that part of the instructions for this amazing kit for installation with a 5-speed car will require use of a sawzall.

aidandj 09-23-2016 01:36 PM

:fael:

shuiend 09-23-2016 01:45 PM

TSE will now also be renting out FaeFlora to do the dirty work for you.

aidandj 09-23-2016 01:49 PM

He can also cut the transmission for you too. But the dirty work is where the real money is.

Lokiel 09-23-2016 06:42 PM


Originally Posted by shuiend (Post 1362896)
TSE will now also be renting out FaeFlora to do the dirty work for you.

But can he stop at just one ear?

farpolemiddle 09-23-2016 06:46 PM

I really need to carve out a couple of days and finish writing the instructions,


This. My noob ass is going to seriously need some type of instructions. Including some things that might be considered common sense. I am hoping to not bug the shit out of you with endless emails starting with "How do you..."

Justaturbo95 09-23-2016 07:11 PM

I am running a 5 speed for a while. But 5th is now kicking out so 6 will be in there soon as i get it in.
Are you guys aware Bosch white papers say the 4.2 and 4.9 both are to run a temp of 900 C. Yes C. Max temp is 1000 C. So unless you are running more than 1700 f. Egt you are below operating temp according to Bosch. I run as close as possible. We run the airplane at 5 1/4 from the head. 7 inches Max from the valve. They last longer than in the car.

Savington 09-23-2016 08:14 PM


Originally Posted by Justaturbo95 (Post 1362976)
I am running a 5 speed for a while. But 5th is now kicking out so 6 will be in there soon as i get it in.
Are you guys aware Bosch white papers say the 4.2 and 4.9 both are to run a temp of 900 C. Yes C. Max temp is 1000 C. So unless you are running more than 1700 f. Egt you are below operating temp according to Bosch. I run as close as possible. We run the airplane at 5 1/4 from the head. 7 inches Max from the valve. They last longer than in the car.

Suit yourself. I've already killed one LSU4.9 sensor running it in the rear position in a track car. My recommendation is to run the rear position.

EO2K 09-23-2016 08:42 PM

I honestly think it has more to do with the number of heat cycles we put these things through than anything else.

Sav, any benefit to "upgrading" from the 4.2 to the 4.9? I believe my Innovate will let me do that if I change the cable and update the firmware, I just don't know if its worth it.

Savington 09-23-2016 08:46 PM

Not sure, the switch happened just before I put the MS3 in Acamas so I ended up with all 4.9 cars by happenstance.

aidandj 09-23-2016 09:06 PM


Originally Posted by EO2K (Post 1362996)
I honestly think it has more to do with the number of heat cycles we put these things through than anything else.

Sav, any benefit to "upgrading" from the 4.2 to the 4.9? I believe my Innovate will let me do that if I change the cable and update the firmware, I just don't know if its worth it.

Don't you just have to buy the sensor? Like go to a parts store and pick up the beetle sensor or whatever. Let me know if you do. I want to do it too.

Savington 09-23-2016 09:07 PM

I believe the connector is different, but don't quote me on that.

aidandj 09-23-2016 09:11 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1363008)
I believe the connector is different, but don't quote me on that.

You are correct

Bosch LSU 4.2 and LSU 4.9 Multi-Sensor Support

And for $30 you can get just the cable and source your own sensor.

http://www.innovatemotorsports.com/xcart/product.php?productid=16364&cat=250&page=1

For you prime guys

https://www.amazon.com/Innovate-Moto.../dp/B013UG0MJE

https://www.amazon.com/Oxygen-Sensor...dp/B01FS949SG/

Gordon, buy all that and install it before MRLS.

*Disclaimer, I have not ordered any of this, nor know if it works.

Justaturbo95 09-23-2016 10:02 PM


Originally Posted by Savington (Post 1362992)
Suit yourself. I've already killed one LSU4.9 sensor running it in the rear position in a track car. My recommendation is to run the rear position.

Hey, just sharing what bosch who designed the sensor says. Like i noted. Bosch says design temp 1700f. So sharing the info.
I am not on the track in my miata so can't say otherwise. But can say 100% in an aircraft they last longer than a miata with it lower in the pipe. Note i run them with extended mounts so not saturated in the exhaust stream. Tip is flush.
Was initially very worried about the aircraft mounting as we had no other location. Everyone says they won't last. Turns out they do very well. Even with lead contamination. So looked up bosch specs. Does sell more sensors i guess. My 4.9 has lasted longer than any i have had. It is running in stock header position. Being further downstream. Sensor response is better up close too.

Savington 09-23-2016 11:43 PM

Aircraft run lower EGTs as do NA cars. I've never had sensors survive in the upper pipe, and I've killed them in track cars in the lower position too. I wouldn't put it in the upper position.


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