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Old 02-15-2015, 07:58 PM   #201
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Except the clubman, which I have now. Adjusting the lower belts once my seats are in is a PITA. With that being said, I really like the rest of the harness and that is why I stepped my new ones up to the Profi II.
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I had a Clubman it was a PITA to adjust. Profi is super easy to adjust plus has a much more comfortable crotch strap.

I don't mind paying premiums for safety.
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I had a Clubman it was a PITA to adjust. Profi is super easy to adjust plus has a much more comfortable crotch strap.

I don't mind paying premiums for safety.
Glad to hear I made the right choice. The lower straps did look like they were a better design. I can't wait to try them out.
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I've looked through this whole thread and didn't find anyone else with this issue. My 99 does not have an oem location for an eyelet bolt on the trans tunnel. Is this common with to have to drill a hole and reinforce the bolt?

Also, why would I choose the $400 schroth over the $200 gforce. Just for the option of pull-up? I don't have any plans on running a hans either.
comfort and ease of use. the G force is an entry level belt. Like anything entry level it's not the end-all-be-all in harnesses. a higher priced harness will have aluminum adjusters, the materiel will stay plush longer, and so on.

Funny story from this weekend. I have a customer with a ex-Formula SAE car. i was over at his shop this weekend pouring him a seat. He brought it to my attention that the G force harnesses bought where very heavy. we added it up and it increased his chassis weight by 5%. he switched over to a OMP 805 harness instead.
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OMP 805 harness[/URL] instead.
I moved from G-Force to OMP harnesses about a year ago. The OMP harnesses are really quite nice. My favorite part is that the adjusters feature a very positive locking mechanism. Once they are adjusted they are not ever moving unless done on purpose.

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Bringing this thread back as I am about to order harnesses.
My car will be street driven, but not daily driven, and generally it only goes on the highway to get to an event. Most of the street miles I put on it are around town and under 50 mph.

I have had a few people suggest to me that I should get an ASM harness to make getting inspected easier and for safety when not wearing a hans on the street. I am not interested in a 4 point ASM so that leaves the competition version with added sub straps (which isn't dot legal, no orange push button). Is a 6 point ASM significantly safer in a car with a roll bar, race seats, and no helmet/hans? Is it significantly less safe in a track accident with a helmet and hans?
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You could just leave the stock belts in the car, they don't weigh that much. Just tuck the lower straps under/behind the seats at inspection time so as not to confuse the inspection monkey.
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I have stock belts and 5 point harnesses in the car.
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Bringing this thread back as I am about to order harnesses. My car will be street driven, but not daily driven, and generally it only goes on the highway to get to an event. Most of the street miles I put on it are around town and under 50 mph. I have had a few people suggest to me that I should get an ASM harness to make getting inspected easier and for safety when not wearing a hans on the street. I am not interested in a 4 point ASM so that leaves the competition version with added sub straps (which isn't dot legal, no orange push button). Is a 6 point ASM significantly safer in a car with a roll bar, race seats, and no helmet/hans? Is it significantly less safe in a track accident with a helmet and hans?
</p><p>&nbsp;</p><p>Obviously this isn't a problem for me anymore...but my car passed inspection with plain ol' 6 point harnesses installed. &nbsp;the &quot;orange push button&quot; may not be a well known rule I guess.</p>
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Bringing this thread back as I am about to order harnesses.
My car will be street driven, but not daily driven, and generally it only goes on the highway to get to an event. Most of the street miles I put on it are around town and under 50 mph.

I have had a few people suggest to me that I should get an ASM harness to make getting inspected easier and for safety when not wearing a hans on the street. I am not interested in a 4 point ASM so that leaves the competition version with added sub straps (which isn't dot legal, no orange push button). Is a 6 point ASM significantly safer in a car with a roll bar, race seats, and no helmet/hans? Is it significantly less safe in a track accident with a helmet and hans?
I'm pretty sure the orange push button ASM harness actually accepts the crotch straps, you just have to buy the crotch straps separately. I can verify when I get home from work, I have this set up on the passenger side of my car.
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Bringing this thread back as I am about to order harnesses.
My car will be street driven, but not daily driven, and generally it only goes on the highway to get to an event. Most of the street miles I put on it are around town and under 50 mph.

I have had a few people suggest to me that I should get an ASM harness to make getting inspected easier and for safety when not wearing a hans on the street. I am not interested in a 4 point ASM so that leaves the competition version with added sub straps (which isn't dot legal, no orange push button). Is a 6 point ASM significantly safer in a car with a roll bar, race seats, and no helmet/hans? Is it significantly less safe in a track accident with a helmet and hans?
We need to look at the components in a system. The components all do a particular job and how they do that job in tandem equals out to the performance of the system. Anytime you start modifying the oem safety system your taking safety into your own hands. To answer your question I have never seen a crash study where a 4 point increases the performance of a safety system. So I would agree with you to avoid those. A roll bar is good and bad component to a system. Good as it can stop the car from crushing you, bad because it can cause blunt force trauma. In order to reduce the chances for trauma roll bar padding will help so will a helmet.
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Question about the seat foaming. My gf is a foot shorter than me and needs to sit about 6-8 inches forward. Can I use the seat foam to safely move her forward or will it move her too far away from the seat.
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Question about the seat foaming. My gf is a foot shorter than me and needs to sit about 6-8 inches forward. Can I use the seat foam to safely move her forward or will it move her too far away from the seat.
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yep, you can do that. on the NP01 cars the drivers sit 3" too low and can't see out of the thing. so i have pre made foam boad that is cut and stacked underneath them, to raise them up 3". for your GF you'll need the same pre made board it's 1" thick by 30"x60". so you can stack it behind her. then pour the 2 part foam, it will glue everything together and she will have a better fitting seat then you will.
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Oregon, might be a bit of a trip.
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Oregon, might be a bit of a trip.
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If it isn't intended to be a long term solution you can use inexpensive 2lb urethane foam (US composites has it). I made 3-4 inserts with that stuff and there were very comfortable but they get brittle and fall apart after about a year of use. With an insert that thick, belt openings start to be in weird places and it makes things a little tricky
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I will for sure spend the extra money on a nicer set of harnesses next time vs. the G-force Pro 3". They are fine, but remind me of some old seat belts from an early 80s small plane.

Biggest issue for me that is functional vs. cosmetic is that the slacking tab falls next to the seat edge and is very difficult to adjust if you are in the seat (good thing that does not happen much). I can't find a way to adjust the belt to get that to fall anywhere else. The set-up is with Sprint seats, OE front hump and shaved rear OE mounting points (stock seats and race seats are super easy to swap). Just a bad combo of seat, seat placement and harness design. I did not see that coming at all.
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This is probably as good of a place as any to ask about this. Does anyone know anything about the Schroth SHR FLEX (hans alternative)? No info about a release date other than spring/summer 2015. Summer officially ends in 2 weeks.
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OGRacing, Will WRC-R XL drop into miata as well?
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OGRacing, Will WRC-R XL drop into miata as well?
almost nothing "drops" into a miata. the only seat i've seen that bolts in was a Sparco rev. Funny thing is a sparco pro 2000II seat drops-in on the passenger side. driver side needs some help.





the help.

i've seen kazpec's seat mounts. i can recommend them. they are also compatible with a lot of different sparco seats. ProCar Innovations Race Spec Seat Mount Version 2 | KazeSpec Engineering Proven to fit the following seats: Sparco Sprint 5, Sparco Evo, pretty much the majority of Sparco seats. The mount will fit other seats within 422mm wide, but we have not tested the fitment in anything other than these and cannot guarantee compatibility
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Ultrashields 15", 16" and 17" fit NBs with no problem. TDR even sells pre-made brackets that work very well. I even suspect that the US 18" would fit the passenger side on an NB. Driver's side is just a tiny bit more narrow.

I did install a 6 point Schroth on the driver's side of the 2003. The mounting locations for the sub strap are not perfect. There's all kinds of stuff on the bottom getting in the way. Anybody have pictures 6 point of sub belt mounting in an NB?

Somebody wrote that the trans tunnel is pretty weak for belt mounting. This is true with the exception of the rear-most part (at least on NBs again). Here the metal is doubled up and that's where I attached the lap belts. Still used mounting plates of course!
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Ultrashields 15", 16" and 17" fit NBs with no problem. TDR even sells pre-made brackets that work very well. I even suspect that the US 18" would fit the passenger side on an NB. Driver's side is just a tiny bit more narrow.

I did install a 6 point Schroth on the driver's side of the 2003. The mounting locations for the sub strap are not perfect. There's all kinds of stuff on the bottom getting in the way. Anybody have pictures 6 point of sub belt mounting in an NB?

Somebody wrote that the trans tunnel is pretty weak for belt mounting. This is true with the exception of the rear-most part (at least on NBs again). Here the metal is doubled up and that's where I attached the lap belts. Still used mounting plates of course!
FWIW Fitting seats on center 1.5" above the floor on stock mounts is way easier than bolting to the floor.
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