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Old Jul 22, 2014 | 10:47 AM
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Originally Posted by freedomgli
Thats a Pain. We had to do that to get the SParco ADV to fit into our NB miata. Last night i was finally able to remove that awful Fake bride and replace it with a FIA seat. I should have a larger selection of instructors that will be able to get into the car.



Before it was... I need an instructor that is brave enough to get into a ls1 miata, with a Auto-x driver, and that has a pants size smaller than 32.
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Hopefully so, but let's hope it's never necessary. Experiencing your safety gear in action is ... not optimal.
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anyone install new seats over the weekend?
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Hopefully so, but let's hope it's never necessary. Experiencing your safety gear in action is ... not optimal.
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Originally Posted by hi_im_sean
i have a deist pull down currently and its agravating with a 16" ultrashield spec miata, i cant get it tight.

ogracing do you have anythjing with an adjustable anti submarine belt for a 2 driver car with the seat mounted on sliders. tthe only people that seem to even offer them are simpson, crow and ultrashield
What I've done with my GForce 5pt camlock is to preset the right side lap belt and only tighten and loosen the left side lap belt.
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Scroth Profis are adjustable.
Old Aug 6, 2014 | 01:42 PM
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Originally Posted by wannafbody

What I've done with my GForce 5pt camlock is to preset the right side lap belt and only tighten and loosen the left side lap belt.
That's actually what I started doing. I put an order in with ultra shield today
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So what are we looking at for weight differences between two identical harnesses between the latch link and the cam lock option? Trying to decide if for the very specific harness I'm looking at if the cam lock is actually worth twice the money.
Old Aug 6, 2014 | 01:54 PM
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It's actually lighter to run without any harnesses. If we're all collectively lucky, you'll be pushed off this mortal coil when you crash into a cone and your limp, unrestrained body is thrown into the steering wheel with your last words being "I died doing what I loved... racing in parking lots".
Old Aug 6, 2014 | 01:56 PM
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Alternatively, what's winning worth to you? I say a few hundred bucks is completely worth it to be named cone dodger champion of TYOOL 2014.
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Originally Posted by Dunning Kruger Affect
It's actually lighter to run without any harnesses. If we're all collectively lucky, you'll be pushed off this mortal coil when you crash into a cone and your unrestrained body is thrown into the steering wheel with your last words being "I died doing what I loved... racing in parking lots".
Adding a lap belt, lets me remove the stock seat belt retractors, it ends up being lighter. But I want to add the sub straps from a 6 point harness to keep me from sliding down under the lap belt without having to brace myself on the car with my left leg.
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Old Aug 6, 2014 | 01:59 PM
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Originally Posted by Dunning Kruger Affect
It's actually lighter to run without any harnesses. If we're all collectively lucky, you'll be pushed off this mortal coil when you crash into a cone and your limp, unrestrained body is thrown into the steering wheel with your last words being "I died doing what I loved... racing in parking lots".
Harsh dude!
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Originally Posted by Leafy
So what are we looking at for weight differences between two identical harnesses between the latch link and the cam lock option? Trying to decide if for the very specific harness I'm looking at if the cam lock is actually worth twice the money.
You didn't seriously just say this did you? Obviously you haven't used a latch link in a while...a latch link is probably heavier, being that its all steel...you know, instead of a plastic shell and a few metal pins.

**** ******* sucks.
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You didn't seriously just say this did you? Obviously you haven't used a latch link in a while...a latch link is probably heavier, being that its all steel...you know, instead of a plastic shell and a few metal pins.

**** ******* sucks.
Oh no I know how much more of a pain it is. But its literally twice as expensive to get the cam lock. Unless someone can direct me at a camlock pull down 2" web lap belt + 6 point sub strap for under $130 that isnt made by geforce.
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Old Aug 6, 2014 | 05:03 PM
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I know that empirical data isn't exactly your strong suit Leafy, but outside of the G-Force belts not coming with hardware and not having the best adjusters, what exactly is wrong with G-Force belts?
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Originally Posted by Dunning Kruger Affect
I know that empirical data isn't exactly your strong suit Leafy, but outside of the G-Force belts not coming with hardware and not having the best adjusters, what exactly is wrong with G-Force belts?
Cam locks releasing when you dont want it to or failing to release when you do.
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Old Aug 6, 2014 | 05:14 PM
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I would love to see some anecdotes of FIA certified G-Force camlocks failing. I'm sure you have plenty of examples to give off hand.
Old Aug 6, 2014 | 05:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Leafy
Cam locks releasing when you dont want it to or failing to release when you do.
I owned and used G-Force camlocks for years and this never once happened to me. Presumably you have first-person experience, and not just some **** you heard from a friend of a friend?
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Originally Posted by Dunning Kruger Affect
I would love to see some anecdotes of FIA certified G-Force camlocks failing. I'm sure you have plenty of examples to give off hand.
Yes, not FIA but SFI rated 5 point has failed to latch full on me multiple times. You plug the clip in, it clicks feels good, take 2 turns an all of a sudden the lap belt's not connected anymore. And I personally had to turn the subby screw driver to disassemble the cam lock to get a driver out of the car when the lap belt and both should harness belts failed to release. Thankfully that car has a simpson camlock harness now.
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Old Aug 6, 2014 | 05:31 PM
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I would love to see a Youtube video of this in action.
Old Aug 6, 2014 | 05:33 PM
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Take it outside or to PMs?
Old Aug 6, 2014 | 06:02 PM
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So back to things that matter where can I buy a camlock pull down 2" web lap belt + 6 point sub strap for under $130, because thats how much Crow wants to have one made. Neither Simpson and Scroth have easy to use custom belt configurators on their sites.



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