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Old Sep 7, 2012 | 09:52 PM
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Originally Posted by Faeflora
Why one not two?
  1. I'm not sure cam adjustment on the exhaust side will give me much.
  2. It was included in the orginal purchase
  3. RHarris is awesome and next-dayed it to me.
  4. I don't have money for two.
I'm so out of money that I'm not even corner-balancing the car for free, because I can't afford to pay someone $80 to align it.
Old Sep 7, 2012 | 10:19 PM
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Which exhaust did you end up ordering?
Old Sep 7, 2012 | 10:28 PM
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Which exhaust did you end up ordering?
Roadster Sport. I couldn't find the RS **** you guys were talking about and ran out of time.

Edit: I just realized RS = Roadster Sport, lol. I thought you guys were talking about RSR or something like that, which I could not find.
Old Sep 7, 2012 | 11:15 PM
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I ordered my exhaust yesterday, I'm guessing that since I don't have a tracking number it didn't ship today? This is getting to be ridiculous.
Old Sep 7, 2012 | 11:39 PM
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Probably a stupid question, but: if you're that damn poor, why are you still doing track days, ordering brand new parts, etc???

Or are the track days long ago pre-paid?

Just seems like you're "settling" on a ton of stuff and basically half assing the car (not really, but kinda sorta in a way) and it won't be 100% for this upcoming track day and possibly the next.
Old Sep 8, 2012 | 12:22 AM
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Originally Posted by 18psi
Probably a stupid question, but: if you're that damn poor, why are you still doing track days, ordering brand new parts, etc???

Or are the track days long ago pre-paid?

Just seems like you're "settling" on a ton of stuff and basically half assing the car (not really, but kinda sorta in a way) and it won't be 100% for this upcoming track day and possibly the next.
Show me one thing I've half assed. I need EMS2 but can't get it any time soon. Other than that, the car is top-notch.

I live within my income, I've spent too much but I'm not uncomfortable.
Old Sep 8, 2012 | 12:30 AM
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Not corner weighing, not re-aligning, mentioning "i'd do xxxx and xxx if I wasn't broke atm" stuff like that....Meant to say settling more than half assing, and I aint hatin boo, just kinda seems like you're in a pinch and trying to get the car all set up in too short of a time and on too limited of a budget.....As for your income, no hate there either - I'm sure all those late nights poz raping rich men pays well
Old Sep 8, 2012 | 12:43 AM
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Originally Posted by 18psi
Not corner weighing, not re-aligning, mentioning "i'd do xxxx and xxx if I wasn't broke atm" stuff like that....Meant to say settling more than half assing, and I aint hatin boo, just kinda seems like you're in a pinch and trying to get the car all set up in too short of a time and on too limited of a budget.....As for your income, no hate there either - I'm sure all those late nights poz raping rich men pays well
It's not like I'm eating dog food, I have a limit on what I'll spend.

The corner weighting really hinges upon how bad it's out. There are tons and tons of people who never corner a car and still track it. I would do injectors and a new computer right now, but there is a delay in the production and I'll only buy from Reverant.
Old Sep 8, 2012 | 02:35 AM
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Hustler i take it you're also waiting for the new MS that hes working on?
Old Sep 8, 2012 | 10:39 AM
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Originally Posted by triple88a
Hustler i take it you're also waiting for the new MS that hes working on?
I'll probably just run MS2 on this car.
Old Sep 8, 2012 | 08:05 PM
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I was severely detonation limited on 91-octane.

Multiply by 1.12 and get 155whp. It's not great, it will get better, but I'm satisfied for now. I suspect another 10whp with TPS, crank trigger, EV14, and do it without the octane increase. I ended up going with 4* advance on the cam and it totally changed the car.

TPS, crank trigger, EV14, and more octane will make significantly more output. This engine is extremely difficult to tune and the lack of resolution on the VE table and the spark table is really hurting the tune. I'm barfing fuel on MAP based enrichments to kill gross detonation. It drives great, but could make significantly better numbers with a modern computer.I could have spent more time fine-tuning, but with this computer it isn't really worth my time. Again the car drives great and will only get better.

Tomorrow I finish the last water leak, weigh the car, clean out the garage, then rest. The car also has the 4.10 rear end and a Cusco diff now, its fun.
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Old Sep 8, 2012 | 08:07 PM
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You're getting knock on tip in? MS doesnt have transient in knock retard like any halfway decent OEM ecu made this century?
Old Sep 8, 2012 | 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Leafy
You're getting knock on tip in? MS doesnt have transient in knock retard like any halfway decent OEM ecu made this century?
It's running off a two-tooth CKP (essentially) with no TPS. MS1 doesn't have this. Stop complaining so much. Seriously, its weighing me down.

you should be making posts like, "Whoa dude, you swapped a complete drive-train, built a rear end, and tuned the car in effectively 4-days working after work using the parts you had because you're on a budget. Congratulations, you are incredibly manly, I will mouth your dirt pipe."
Old Sep 8, 2012 | 08:15 PM
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Not complaining, just wondering. It looks good besides that, doesnt seem to be running out of breath up top. You could turn up the limiter if you wanted to.
Old Sep 8, 2012 | 08:16 PM
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Originally Posted by Leafy
Not complaining, just wondering. It looks good besides that, doesnt seem to be running out of breath up top. You could turn up the limiter if you wanted to.
Yes, you are complaining.
If I had a Skunk TB and 949 crank pully with better valve springs, I might. Longevity is the key. Long term smiles > anoter 1000rpm
Old Sep 8, 2012 | 08:19 PM
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Power looks good. That'll be fast. Timing map isn't too conservative. I have never run more than ~3° more than that anywhere in the map even with a 9.5:1 BP4W on 91. It looks a skosh fat above 6k. Bringing that closer to 13.0:1 above 6 would probably add more power than another 3° IMO. I assume you didn't get det above 6k?
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Old Sep 8, 2012 | 08:38 PM
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Originally Posted by emilio700
Power looks good. That'll be fast. Timing map isn't too conservative. I have never run more than ~3° more than that anywhere in the map even with a 9.5:1 BP4W on 91. It looks a skosh fat above 6k. Bringing that closer to 13.0:1 above 6 would probably add more power than another 3° IMO. I assume you didn't get det above 6k?
Thanks, validation like this is nice. I'm going to fine-tune as best I can, however it seems that I'm having a tough time producing back-to-back symmetry on the AFR, most likely due to the 580cc EV1s in batch-fire. The car feels fast and is a ton of fun to rev.

The even better news is the possibility of TTD.
Old Sep 8, 2012 | 09:14 PM
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Nice work! Can't believe you guys pulled this off! Looking forward to a ride up at Hallett...
Old Sep 8, 2012 | 09:46 PM
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Please someone unban sjmarcy. I want his input on this development.
Old Sep 8, 2012 | 10:49 PM
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What exhaust was on the car when dynoed? I assume you didn't get the RS yet if it was ordered yesterday.



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