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Old 09-26-2012, 05:00 PM   #461
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No, that means you have a 360* window for the CMP.
Just wait a day I'll confirm that my **** works then I'll post a picture of what teeth to cut off.
You had me at "180* window".
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How do I check my work without blowing-up the car?
Unplug injectors, have someone crank while you strobe the crank to check timing.
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Unplug injectors, have someone crank while you strobe the crank to check timing.
Any thoughts on where the single-tooth needs to drop in respect to the crank and tooth spacing?
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Old 09-26-2012, 10:19 PM   #464
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you just need to rotate the CAS so that tooth #1 on your 12-1 wheel is the first tooth to pass the crank sensor after the cam sensor reads the single tooth.
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Old 09-26-2012, 10:38 PM   #465
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Is this the promise land?

then, I just go to the tooth-logger and count the number of teeth and make sure the CMP is dropping just before tooth #1, right? In my case, that's 2-teeth after the space, right?


So the CMP needs to drop between teeth 2 and 3?

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Old 09-27-2012, 09:16 AM   #466
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Any thoughts on where the single-tooth needs to drop in respect to the crank and tooth spacing?
Shown in painful detail in the manual:
MS2-Extra Dual Wheel Manual
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this might help:





i believe that's correct.
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Old 09-27-2012, 11:03 AM   #468
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Shown in painful detail in the manual:
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I've read that, it never speaks to where the CMP sensor should drop on a -1 CKP wheel.

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this might help:





i believe that's correct.
Meow that is something I can understand.
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I've read that, it never speaks to where the CMP sensor should drop on a -1 CKP wheel.
yes it does:

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Tooth #1 is the first tooth to pass the main sensor after the single tooth has passed the second sensor


edit: aw crap, that's the non-missing tooth chart. let me re-read and update the wheel if needed.


acutally, looks like it doesnt matter as long as they dont overlap:

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With a missing-tooth main wheel, the missing tooth provides the main position reference to the Megasquirt. The cam signal should occur away (not co-incident with) the missing tooth, the exact angle is irrelevant, so long as they NEVER overlap.
that's even easier.
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that's even easier.
That's what I tried, (quite badly I might add), to say before. The cam position signal can go anywhere really just as long as it doesn't cross the missing tooth.

You basically have almost a full crank revolution to play with.

Hustler, you're making this much harder than it really is
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Old 09-27-2012, 11:25 AM   #471
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Miataturbo built my hot poz rod.

So basically, my process is:
  1. Set engine at TDC
  2. Rotate crank 360*
  3. Make sure CMP/CAS tooth crosses pick-up in the next 300* (missing tooth area reduces CMP window by 60*)
  4. pull the plugs, flood clear, look at the logs, ask MT if it's okay to crank
  5. win at HPDE
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you have to use a 2nd grader reading level for him. that's why pictures are helpful.
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Old 09-27-2012, 11:33 AM   #473
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I sit down to make #1.
We know. Keep this kind of **** out of my thread. I've contacted the internet police, consequences will never be the same.


But seriously, thanks for all the help. I will buy you beers next time I go to the liberal bee-hive of DC.
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Absoltuely come back and visit, DC is not the same without you, even but for a week.

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Treyvon Lmk when you go to DC because I'm trying to plan my trip up there soon.
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Treyvon Lmk when you go to DC because I'm trying to plan my trip up there soon.
Sorry, my phone isn't working that day. lolol
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I've read that, it never speaks to where the CMP sensor should drop on a -1 CKP wheel.
For realzies?


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With a missing-tooth main wheel, the missing tooth provides the main position reference to the Megasquirt. The cam signal should occur away (not co-incident with) the missing tooth, the exact angle is irrelevant, so long as they NEVER overlap.

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omfg, three slim spade connectors and one small tube of expoy and this could have been solved a long time agao.
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Sounds like something Fae would do.

Actually. What I would do is make it my bitch. Witness and learn:


I would dremel off the female plastic surrounding the prongs.

Then I would solder wires onto each prong, and heatshrink each wire.

Then I would heatshrink all three of the prongs together (yes i have big heatshrink 8x shrink too)

Then I would junkyard a nice small 3 prong connector, both male and female.

Then I would solder the connector bitch onto the wires on both sides and fluff my *****.
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This is what I didn't understand from the manual, now I do. I wasn't sure how or where to enter that CMP angle, now I realize that I don't enter it anywhere.
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