http://forum.miata.net/vb/showpost.php?p=5658492&postcount=2
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<br />Gotta go vics. I'm doing the S2 throttle body, silly to pay Ben to port the VTCS Mani. VICS manis are common enough that sourcing one in time shouldn't be an issue and really doesn't add much of a project, just swap the manifold.

 

if you can find a flattop for under 450 I'd get that. Otherwise I'd do vics for less than half, they're pretty common for $80-120. Some wrecking yards will even sell em for $20-60 if the engine its on is smashed

 

I can get a square top for about $400 but the dyno comparos I've seen lose midrange torque. In that thread above the squaretop didn't make any more power than the VICS. Much lower power level, but I'm cool with saving $300.

 

<p>Instead of a flat top, just turn up the boost.</p>

 

haha pretty much
though I still think the flattop will outflow the vics at big power levels and past 6500rpm

just my theory tho

 

<p>Hes not building a dyno queen though, track/fun street car.</p>

 

Sorry, I got your thread confused with Aidan's. If you aren't trying to squeeze two pennies together to make a nickel, then by all means buy a VICS.
Hell, I sold one not too long ago for around $50.

 

<p>Hey, that actually works if you squeeze hard enough you know.</p>

 

it was $60 and I love you for it.
and I passed the savings on to another member

really sucks I didn't get to test it but hopefully DIY will do that test he's been promising for weeks now

 

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<br />I'm sure you're right. If I was turning the engine to 8k RPM I would buy a flat top. But just turning up the boost isn't really a solution. For what a VICS Mani costs it's a no brainer.

 

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<br />El oh el.
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<br />VICS is totally doable. I could do the flat top but I just don't see $300 worth of returns based on the research I've done.
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<br />If I don't have a VICS secured by tomorrow though I'll probably buy the square top.

 

<p>Well, decided to just get the VICS. Maybe do Honda down the road. Found one on Ebay for $110 shipped with Paypal, not horrible. But will be here in a week. In the meantime I have plenty of other stuff to do.</p>

 

<p>Small update on the megasquirt for this build.</p><p>Harness is almost done.</p><p>Alternator board is being a royal pain in the ***.</p><p>Just won't work right.</p><p><br /></p>

 

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Good luck Ed.

 

<p>MS3x bit done.</p><p></p>

 

<p></p><p>Aren't you the one installing it?</p>

 

Lol yeah Josh! I need to buy you more stuff to compensate you for helping me. Perfect way to get Miata parts you wouldn't buy otherwise.
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<br />I really need your help.
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<br />Yank is going to fix my downpipe (flex pipe for EWG dump was bad). Install sway bars, fully remove charcoal stuff, etc. Much still for me to do.

 

<p>Bench flashed and connected.</p><p><br /></p>

 

<p>Harness is done too</p><p></p><p>Alternator board wires. 12v, gnd, alternator out. Also alternator disabled triggered by INJF</p><p><br /></p>