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Old 07-01-2013, 08:34 PM   #161
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Then retard the timing some more (5-10* BTDC). You can try and run on fixed timing.
And run more fuel (+10 to 20%). Play with throttle. Win.
I've added 20% already for the e85 compensation, and tried various timing between 0-14. No dice.
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Old 07-01-2013, 10:10 PM   #162
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If it was mine, I'd add even more fuel.
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it runs sorta...
i can get it started but it acts as if its running on 2cyl. i have to hold the throttle to keep it running. im going to try wiring the cops in wasted spark to see if it will run correctly. heres a data log of it running horribly any advice would be apreciated.
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Old 07-02-2013, 05:07 PM   #164
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Your RPM curve is not smooth. Looks like you are having some sensor problems (crank I assume).
One thing looks odd to me. Your log shows a 'timing error'. And it's usually an actual number other than 0. My logs don't show that. They only have 'timing error %' and it's usually 0.
But I never ran sequential spark and I'm running MS3X, so this may explain the difference. Anyway- you may want to post your ignition setup for some of the smarter guys to look at.
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what? fix your ****.
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Old 07-02-2013, 06:13 PM   #167
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The question was I'm getting spark across all 4cyl but it acts like its running on 2? Any ideas where to start?
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are all injectors firing then?
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are all injectors firing then?
I don't know of a good way to test them but they were working just fine when I drove it into the garage last week. Holding good fuel pressure 50-60psi. Wideband is reading a steady 13.6 while cranking.
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Injector test mode!!!!

Megasquirt MS3 Output Testing
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Injector test mode!!!!

Megasquirt MS3 Output Testing
That was extremely helpful thanks brain
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Update it now runs without forcing it to
Revrant told me to change the required fuel to 3.6 since i am running e85, fixed a faulty pin on the connector i assembled for the coil on plug harness, i also fixed the intake cam ( it was 1 tooth advanced). and then it ran.
quick question, Fowler did you have problems with the downpipe contacting the steering shaft? on my car it is vibrating against it.
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No sir I did not. My car was a 93 but aren't the 94-97s similar? I am pretty positive it was not making contact, didn't you have it undone at one point? Not sure if it can be bolted up wrong or not lol
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i dont think there as any adjustment that way though, weird. may send abe a pm and see what he says.
other sidenote it feels like there is a something pulling the motor down hard, it wouldnt build over 3psi on a super rich light pull. not sure whats up with that. maybe timing table stuff?
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My stuff pretty much bolted on no problems, I'm positive our cars were identical so I don't know what's going on.

You may be bogging the motor with all that fuel, ve analyze live!
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My stuff pretty much bolted on no problems, I'm positive our cars were identical so I don't know what's going on.

You may be bogging the motor with all that fuel, ve analyze live!
the sub frames are slightly different between 90-93 and 94+ but i think they just added some bracing, not changed the whole thing. im going to look at the mounts and make sure i don't have them too low. tunned a bit before the pull but nothing anywhere close to what i need to do, doing that in the am, not a big fan of tuning in the dark.
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Part of the problem is an exhaust leak, manifold to block I believe. Fowler were you running a exhaust manifold gasket?
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you better have a factory metal gasket between the manifold and block...
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What brain said. Factory mls gasket. Please don't be runnng it without that?
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I do have the MLS gasket on there, so I must be leaking elsewhere.
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