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Old 01-25-2015, 04:55 PM   #181
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i dont have words for how the car handles now. except for the vmaxxes, its magic. everyone should have 9s or better on their track rig. i used to average low 1:15s on this track, with a record of 1:14.480. i was averaging high 1:12s to mid 1:13s with a record of 1:11.5xx yesterday.

it is absolutely neutral, and confidence inspiring. i kept pushing it and pushing to find the limit and get it to break loose, and it would either: not happen and just stick, or i would get the most controllable, slight 4 wheel drift. pulling the slightest bit of steering angle would get it right back on track, instantly. i know im still not pushing it 100% in some spots on that track, so im sure i can get a 1:10 when i get more comfortable with this setup. i picked up so much speed in some of the chicanes, i scared myself a few times. i need to get used to it.

i had 2 of the other miata guys come to our pit asking what we had done. we all used to be pretty equal, and now im almost lapping them at 20 minutes. they are all 1.8 btw


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Did you switch tires or just wheels?
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Old 01-25-2015, 09:24 PM   #183
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You can push that a lot harder. DO IT!! LOL.
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i figured. i have all the bad habits i developed with the old setup ingrained in my head. i need to find my inner kitten and bring my corner entry speed way up.
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im going to get some intercooler piping soon, im in the research phase. im wondering what are the pro/cons of aluminum piping with sili couplers vs silicone piping with metal couplers?

i would think metal piping is better as it acts as a secondary heat sink/radiator along with the intercooler, with the silicone piping being more flexible, both literally and figuratively.

BOV placement? right before the throttle body is what i remember being the place to be when i was researching this a while ago.
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im going to get some intercooler piping soon, im in the research phase. im wondering what are the pro/cons of aluminum piping with sili couplers vs silicone piping with metal couplers?

i would think metal piping is better as it acts as a secondary heat sink/radiator along with the intercooler, with the silicone piping being more flexible, both literally and figuratively.

BOV placement? right before the throttle body is what i remember being the place to be when i was researching this a while ago.
Take price into account too. I would map out a couple different set ups and pick out the pipes and whatnot. I ended up with really straight intercooler piping because I mapped out like 5 different ideas. If you're using the same intercooler I am go check out my build.

Also yes, bov right before throttle body. If I can get around to buying some new aluminum pipe I will send the flange pipe when I send your bov.
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Take price into account too. I would map out a couple different set ups and pick out the pipes and whatnot. I ended up with really straight intercooler piping because I mapped out like 5 different ideas. If you're using the same intercooler I am go check out my build.

Also yes, bov right before throttle body. If I can get around to buying some new aluminum pipe I will send the flange pipe when I send your bov.
my thread tittle includes the word cheap, i always take price into account

i was going to get one of these, so dont sweat the flange
T-pipe

i can always make one in a few minutes too if i had to

i cant see why i would ever do silicone piping for the price and the downsides. i just wasnt sure if there was something i was missing that make sili piping worth it.
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Aluminum pipe will consume slightly less space but is also a bit more difficult to fabricate and get right. I doubt the heat-transfer difference is significant. Comes down to personal preference and how much time you want to spend fabricating.
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^^Easier to fab. Also the one piece silicone pieces require no fab. My piping needed 2 extra cuts of aluminum, and thats it.
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aluminum it is
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Take price into account too. I would map out a couple different set ups and pick out the pipes and whatnot. I ended up with really straight intercooler piping because I mapped out like 5 different ideas. If you're using the same intercooler I am go check out my build.

Also yes, bov right before throttle body. If I can get around to buying some new aluminum pipe I will send the flange pipe when I send your bov.
im looking at you piping pics/comments, are you using 2.25" or 2.5" piping? whats the OD on the compressor outlet?
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im looking at you piping pics/comments, are you using 2.25" or 2.5" piping? whats the OD on the compressor outlet?
2.5 inch piping. Outlet is 2.25. I have a 2-2.25 90 degree. 45* piping. And 90s and couplers. Email me for more pics.
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2.5 inch piping. Outlet is 2.25. I have a 2-2.25 90 degree. 45* piping. And 90s and couplers. Email me for more pics.
i was starting to get worried, no aidan ninja posts today.
i think i got it figured out, ill post my list when i order everything tonight, but please do send pics in case i missed something.

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i ordered all the stuff for AN oil feed, return, and intercooler piping from a combination of ebay stores and siliconeinakes.com. im going with 2" piping.

im going with -10 for the return, and 1/2 NPT at the pan

my list from silicone intakes
1 x Dual-Cone Air Filter - black, 2.5" inlet (AIR002006) = $14.99
3 x T-Bolt Clamp for 2.5" Silicone Parts (CLA000102) = $7.80
2 x T-Bolt Clamp for 2.25" Silicone Parts (CLA000101) = $5.20
9 x T-Bolt Clamp for 2.0" Silicone Parts (CLA000100) = $23.40
2 x Stainless Steel Line 90 Adaptor, -4 AN Red/Blue (ANF001610) = $19.98
1 x 2' Straight Aluminum Pipe, 2.0" (SIL000753) = $14.99
1 x Stainless Steel Line Straight Adaptor, -10 AN Red/Blue (ANF001205) = $6.99
2 x 2' Mandrel Bent Aluminum 45 Bend, 2.0" (SIL000675) = $29.98
1 x AN to NPT Adaptor, -10 AN to 1/2" NPT Blue (ANF001307) = $3.99
1 x Stainless Steel Line 45 Adaptor, -10 AN Red/Blue (ANF001208) = $12.99
4 x PTFE Braided Stainless Steel Lines, -4 AN, per ft. (ANF001599) = $13.96
3 x PTFE Braided Stainless Steel Lines, -10 AN, per ft. (ANF001202) = $11.97
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Sub-Total: $166.24
FedEx Ground (FedEx Ground: 1-4 Business Days with $100 Insurance Included): $19.99
Total: $186.23


ebay

TD04 10AN oil drain adapter
2x 2" 90 elbow. to turn up from the inter cooler
2x 2"-2.25" 90 elbow. for inter cooler
1x 2.5" elbow. throttle body
1x BOV flange pipe, 2.5"
1x 2"-2.5" union, for BOV plange pipe to 2" piping after the turn up on the intake side
1x M10-1.5 to 4AN, w/ 1.5mm restrictor fitting. for turbo oil feed
1x M10-1.5 to 4AN fitting. for oil feed to block connection
1x 2.25" 90 elbow. for compressor inlet

all elbows and silicone couplers are 5mm, 4 ply, and blue

total is about $280 and i still might need a few pieces to route the filter and compressor inlet

thanks for all the info aidan, i am basically copying your routing.
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Isn't the intercooler 2.5 inch?
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Isn't the intercooler 2.5 inch?
to be honest i didnt measure, the ebay listing says 2.25 OD, 2.125" ID

edit: going to go measure that bitch
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I used all 2.5 inch couplers and piping. Quick re-order lol.
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1 x T-Bolt Clamp for 2.0" Silicone Parts (CLA000100) = $2.60
9 x T-Bolt Clamp for 2.5" Silicone Parts (CLA000102) = $23.40
4 x 2.5" Silicone 90 Elbow, Black (SIL000033) = $67.96
2 x 1' Mandrel Bent Aluminum 45 Bend, 2.5" (SIL000284) = $23.98
1 x Silicone Reducer, 90 bend - 2.5" to 2.0" - Black (BRE000951) = $19.99

Plus 2 day shipping cuz I was in a rush.
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SOB it is 2.5"

im using 2" piping anyway for easier fitment, and there is no need to go any bigger.
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