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Old 03-11-2015, 09:40 AM   #261
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OK. I wouldn't mind banjo to barb, if the barb were 11mm 8mm, but they all seem to be 12mm. Maybe I could find a hose that would fit both ends (mixing manifold on the other end), but seems compromised.

No way would a hose fit on both ends.

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OK. I wouldn't mind banjo to barb, if the barb were 11mm 8mm, but they all seem to be 12mm. Maybe I could find a hose that would fit both ends (mixing manifold on the other end), but seems compromised.

No way would a hose fit on both ends.

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not the most common or inexpensive fitting, but theyre out there
12mm banjo to 8mm barb | eBay

wrong bolt, reuse your current bolt
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Banjo-and-bo...0bc0f1&vxp=mtr

not sure about hits one with the rubber seals and all, but cant see why it wouldnt work with copper washers
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Right, I should have been more specific. I meant something that resembles the OEM Subie with the curved section. Something 90 degree that ends up directing the barbs similar to what you have done.

The FM kit seems to use the simple ones.

Are you planning to use heat sleeve on your lines?
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Yep, that is the set-up that is 12mm when I need 8mm.

I'll find something to do what I want, but it may not be a piece of cake.

I may get a replacement from Sturovo of what I have now, but route it in such a manner that I don't mess it up.
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they do also have a bunch that go from banjo to braided line, to barb. KINUGAWA TURBO Online Shopping Cart - Turbo Water line / Hose kit

How small of a damn water line are you trying to run? 12mm OD 9mm ID that hose eblows are setupfor is pretty normal. Thats normal 3/8" ID lines that like everyone else uses.
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Right, I should have been more specific. I meant something that resembles the OEM Subie with the curved section. Something 90 degree that ends up directing the barbs similar to what you have done.

The FM kit seems to use the simple ones.

Are you planning to use heat sleeve on your lines?
my bad, yea, i dont think ive seen a banjo with a bend in it at 8mm/5/16"

ill run heat sleeve where i have to. i was hoping to route it in such a way to where i wouldnt, but thats not likely to happen.

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How small of a damn water line are you trying to run? 12mm OD 9mm ID that hose eblows are setupfor is pretty normal. Thats normal 3/8" ID lines that like everyone else uses.
5/16"/8mm because thats the line size provided by the miata. 3/8" is technically too large for the nipple by the stock thermo housing, but im sure they work fine for most with a worm clamp.
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Mixing Manifold nipple and the T/S extension are 8mm.

Short term I think I'll get a barbed Banjo and repair what I have. Then when I do the coolant re-route, run AN line, 4 or 6, to the spacer.
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So I bet you can get that 8mm tube over a ******* 9mm barb whats 1mm between friends? Lol, if its a rubber hose just use the heat gun and some spit to slip it on.
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So I bet you can get that 8mm tube over a ******* 9mm barb whats 1mm between friends? Lol, if its a rubber hose just use the heat gun and some spit to slip it on.
Because the steel pipe is 12mm OD, 9mm ID, not the proposed mating hose.

Sure, strech 1mm or 12%, but not 50%.
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No the Steel pipe is for 9mm ID hose.
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No the Steel pipe is for 9mm ID hose.
no its not, its for 12mm ID hose. the ID of the pipe is referred to as 9mm
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just look at the size diff in the pic i posted a few pages ago

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Well its certainly not for 1/2" ID hose. I mean I've got them on the subaru (not these exact ones but the OEM ones that they're supposed to replace), its 3/8. No turbo this size is going to use ******* 1/2" ID hose for coolant.
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Well its certainly not for 1/2" ID hose. I mean I've got them on the subaru (not these exact ones but the OEM ones that they're supposed to replace), its 3/8. No turbo this size is going to use ******* 1/2" ID hose for coolant.
Your right it's not 1/2". Its 12mm
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Your right it's not 1/2". Its 12mm
ooooo, 0.7mm difference, its so huge...
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ooooo, 0.7mm difference, its so huge...
no one is talking about 1/2" hose but you. the discussion is about going from 8mm to 12mm, 50 percent increase as described to you already, 4mm difference. make sense?

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Holy ****. 12mm is 1/2 when you're talking about hard metric. Does it make sense now? That barb is designed for 9mm ******* ID hose which has a 12mm OD. This is also know as 3/8" ID hose with a 1/2" OD. Aka most turbo coolant lines ever. The non bubble part of that damn adapter I linked is 9mm. Which means if you try really hard you can get 8mm aka 5/16th ID hose on the things.
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Thanks, Sean. I ordered a 12mm banjo -> 8mm barb from... Flyin Miata! Garrett is 14mm, but they have both available. $16.80 delivered with washers, over 1/3 of which is shipping. That's what happens when one only needs a single, small part.

And yes, your picture well shows the difference between what comes on the TD04, and what we need to mate with Miata.
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Holy ****. 12mm is 1/2 when you're talking about hard metric. Does it make sense now? That barb is designed for 9mm ******* ID hose which has a 12mm OD. This is also know as 3/8" ID hose with a 1/2" OD. Aka most turbo coolant lines ever. The non bubble part of that damn adapter I linked is 9mm. Which means if you try really hard you can get 8mm aka 5/16th ID hose on the things.
you were saying...







also id like to know where you get your 0.060" wall thickness hose from. sounds like some good ****.

and for good measure: 1/2" is more often associated with, and is closer to, 13mm, not 12.
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