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Old 08-26-2022, 09:10 PM
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So, I ask seriously:

When was the last time you witnessed a large group of people* having a substantive conversation about matters of significance on the lawn of a public library, or in a municipal park?

* = excluding the homeless

It's a beautiful image, but it's fiction. Doesn't happen.

For at least the past century, and perhaps longer, public debate has occurred in the media. Newspapers, magazines, BBSes, the Web...
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Old 08-26-2022, 09:26 PM
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
Oh, I agree that Section 230 (as with nearly all other Federal legislation) shouldn't exist.

But Newspapers have always acted as a public forum as well: They accept advertising (including classified ads generally posted by individuals rather than businesses), they print opinions and letters to the editor submitted by readers, and so on. And they have always exercised editorial judgement over what ads / letters / etc., they will and will not print.

The two are not so unalike as you say.
I actually thought you were being sarcastic with your Marjorie Taylor Greene post.

Perhaps the discussion should be the difference between newspapers and the new "town square." Shadow banning on Facebook and Google is the equivalent of smacking the town crier in the mouth and gagging him, not simply refusing an ad.
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
So, I ask seriously:

When was the last time you witnessed a large group of people* having a substantive conversation about matters of significance on the lawn of a public library, or in a municipal park?

* = excluding the homeless

It's a beautiful image, but it's fiction. Doesn't happen.
Duh that's the issue.

Do you know where I do see that? Social media. The problem is these companies control the narrative on their sites, while claiming not to be publishers and avoided any ramifications for what they publish.

​​​​​​TV news, newspaper, and the others on your list can be held liable for what they publish.
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Old 08-26-2022, 10:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Bajingo
Duh that's the issue.

Do you know where I do see that? Social media. The problem is these companies control the narrative on their sites, while claiming not to be publishers and avoided any ramifications for what they publish.

​​​​​​TV news, newspaper, and the others on your list can be held liable for what they publish.
DING DING DING
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Old 08-27-2022, 10:48 AM
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Originally Posted by Bajingo
Duh that's the issue.

Do you know where I do see that? Social media. The problem is these companies control the narrative on their sites, while claiming not to be publishers and avoided any ramifications for what they publish.

​​​​​​TV news, newspaper, and the others on your list can be held liable for what they publish.
Didn't the White House direct social media platforms to censor misinformation* about Covid and other some other stuff? Or was that just another conspiracy theory? Because if they did censor at the behest of gov't, they were no longer acting as private companies (forget about even being a publisher) and did in fact violate the 1st. At least, that's how I see it if in fact the WH and Techies were cohorts.

*misinformation*= common sense gun laws. We the gov't can't directly take your free speech and guns away because it is so clearly written in the bill of rights that we'll chip away at it enough making it enormously difficult for you law abiding citizens to exercise those rights.
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Old 08-27-2022, 10:58 AM
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Originally Posted by hector
Didn't the White House direct social media platforms to censor misinformation* about Covid and other some other stuff? Or was that just another conspiracy theory? Because if they did censor at the behest of gov't, they were no longer acting as private companies (forget about even being a publisher) and did in fact violate the 1st. At least, that's how I see it if in fact the WH and Techies were cohorts.
the FBI as well. Or at least that's how it seems, I don't think we have definitive proof but I'm sure they have.
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Old 08-27-2022, 12:18 PM
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the FBI as well. Or at least that's how it seems, I don't think we have definitive proof but I'm sure they have.
TikTok to the rescue again...

https://www.tiktok.com/t/ZTRf7QGXW/

Lisa Page writing for WaPo. Does that count?

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We know they will bend the law to their use every time possible. Reminds me of the five eyes system. https://www.theatlantic.com/politics...on-you/277190/
"We aren't allowed to spy on Americans, we let others do it and then they give us all the information" some ---- at the NSA/FBI.
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I found this amusing:




Seems like it should be on a T-shirt. Or a postcard.
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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
Seems like it should be on a T-shirt. Or a postcard.
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Global warming is killing the Great Barrier Reef, study says

CNN, April 2018

Parts of Great Barrier Reef record highest amount of coral in 36 years

CNN, August, 2022
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Trump broke it. Biden fixed it.

Some people actually believe this.
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Old 08-28-2022, 04:29 PM
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Trump broke it. Biden fixed it.

Some people actually believe this.
More importantly, some people think that if we "give" money to the government, they can fix the climate.

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WaPo's Source? The FBI, Outed by WaPoHeh, heh. If you think the Fourth Estate being used as the Fifth Column is hilarious, it gets even “funnier.” The Post outed its own sources in its later story about being totally wrong. It came in a follow-up whoopsie-daisy story about the release of the affidavit.

Behold:

“In addition, the FBI believed that the material contained what it calls “national defense information,” or some of the most guarded secrets. (The Washington Post has reported the government feared nuclear secrets were at Mar-a-Lago.)

So all the Post‘s sources — who it nebulously described as “‘people familiar with the investigation” and “experts in classified information” and “former senior intelligence officials” and “a person familiar with the investigation” who said there were nuclear secrets at Mar-a-Lago — were “the FBI” and the “government.”

Please laugh.

Then vote.

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Former Phoenix reporter who broke story of Clinton-Lynch tarmac meeting found dead

Suicide....apparently.
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Originally Posted by cordycord
More importantly, some people think that if we "give" money to the government, they can fix the climate.
We certainly can.

Look at the advancements in climate change the great state of PA has made with your federal climate taxes.

https://justthenews.com/nation/state...msburg-parking

Majority of new federal climate funds in Pennsylvania going to repave parking lots

They lion’s share of the funding will go to four parking lots in Bloomsburg.


The U.S. Department of Agriculture is sending $740,000 to Pennsylvania for “critical infrastructure to combat climate change” – but most of the money will go toward repaving parking lots.

The USDA Rural Development program provides taxpayer money for all sorts of programs, from infrastructure to health care to environmental and economic concerns in the rural parts of America. In fiscal year 2022, it provided almost $1.5 billion for local projects.

Its latest announcement noted 16 projects in Pennsylvania, but the lion’s share of the funding will go to four parking lots in Bloomsburg.

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