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That's the point. Everyone hates income tax, and a lot of people support the idea of increased corporate taxation. But they're ignoring the fact that corporate taxation is worse for them than income taxes. Any time a business incurs an increase in operating cost, that results in lower wages (or fewer raises) for employees, and increased cost to consumers, at a rate which is ultimately disproportionate to the effect which would have occurred if the consumers / employees had simply paid that tax directly.
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Damn white people and their...
(draws two cards from pile)
... decreased propensity to die from COVID-19.
Yup. Turns out that having good hygiene habits and following suggests aimed at avoiding illness are the latest form of racial inequality.
The important question is what are Biden's chances of winning against Warren and Sanders? Because whoever wins the democratic primary is most likely going to win against Trump in the general.
Revisiting this old post. Because of news.
So that's a relief. It looks like Warren is probably out of it as well, so the person challenging Trump in November will be a relatively moderate democrat who doesn't have a fan-based that's whipped into a hysterical frenzy.
It'll be interesting to see how many of the #VoteBlueNoMatterWho still bother going to the polls for the general election, given that "who" is now someone that's hard to get excited about. Seven months is a long time to think about the fact that at that point, you're not even voting for someone you like, merely voting against someone you hate.
On the plus side, he is pretty much the least-communist of all of the possible contenders.
Once he is in a debate and people see that he can't even focus his thoughts for a 20 second answer.........I don't see how he can beat Trump.
I think that's true if you exclude the very large number of people who have expressed a commitment to #VoteBlueNoMatterWho, and would very likely vote for Biden for no other reason than that he is not Trump.
Obviously a lot of this is bluster, but these are the same people who have publicly stated that they would vote for a convicted rapist in order to vacate the current President.
I honestly think it's going to come down to whether that crowd remains sufficiently impassioned over the next seven months to motivate themselves to go to the poll, also ALSO whether the red-hat crowd relax and breathe a sigh of relief now that Bernie & Liz are out of it, assuming that Biden can't possibly win.
I mean, that's pretty much the sole reason that Hillary isn't the president right now. Bernie's loss to her bummed out a lot of the hardcore Communist voters, and the moderate democrats didn't show up in huge numbers because, c'mon, there was no way that Trump was possibly going to win.
Bernie's loss to her bummed out a lot of the hardcore Communist voters, and the moderate democrats didn't show up in huge numbers because, c'mon, there was no way that Trump was possibly going to win.
"loss" implies a fair fight. It was not. On the one hand, the DNC literally stole it from him. On the other, he's not actually a democrat and shouldn't have been in the democrat primary race in the first place. I wonder how it would have turned out had he not been allowed to run as a democrat, and a cogent, believable argument to support that premise had been made.
"loss" implies a fair fight. It was not. On the one hand, the DNC literally stole it from him.
I'm curious as to why you say this.
While it's true that certain DNC members expressed their disapproval of Sanders, the official results of the 2016 dem primary have Sanders winning the first-instance vote in 23 states, with 43% of the popular vote in total.
Unless there's some evidence to suggest that numerous state democratic committees tampered with the election results, that seems like a fair fight to me.
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Seven months is a long time to think about the fact that at that point,you're not even voting for someone you like, merely voting against someone you hate.
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Uhmm, honestly . . . in the 40 years I've been voting in presidential elections, I can't think of an election where that wasn't pretty much the case.
While I do not discount what you have said, the actual results from the 2016 democratic primary indicate that Biden had a good fighting chance against Clinton. At a 43% / 55% split in the popular vote totals, it was a fairly close race.
My other comments about Trump winning because of low dem voter turnout due to a combination of the Bernie supporters being disillusioned and the Clinton supporters thinking "Duh, there's no way Trump can possibly win" stand.
This will likely be a key deciding element this November, only with the "Duh" factor being flipped around to the red-hatters. Biden isn't nearly as much of a "call to arms" as Hillary was, from the point of view of the folks in flyover country.
Originally Posted by bahurd
Haave you listened to Trump lately?
The 2020 general election is going to be a choice between two people who seem distanced from reality and unable to form a coherent sentance.
The debates leading up to the election are going to be like listening to two special-ed kids on adderall argue about whether the DC Comics version or the Marvel Comics version of a comic book character are superior.
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