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Old 04-06-2020, 07:26 AM
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Here we have the editor and chief writer for the Washington Post Fact Checker seemingly happy to fact-check President Trump's SOTU address 3 months and a pandemic later.
These people are loving this.
They love that President Trump's greatest achievements, the economy and employment, are faltering during this pandemic.
In terms of this "fact-check", the statement from President Trump was accurate at the time. Trump, like all of us, did not foresee a worldwide pandemic shattering world economies.
These people don't care about you, the layman. They only care about gaining power and progressing their leftist ideology.
These people should focus on things that are objectively false, and not truths that they hope aren't true or that hurt their feelings.
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“This is a tremendous opportunity to restructure things to fit our vision” - House Majority Whip James Clyburn,

Never under-estimate the capacity for politicians to use a tragedy as an opportunity to seize additional power and greatly increase the size and scope of government.

https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/n...fit-our-vision

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TRUMP IS FINISHED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!



https://townhall.com/tipsheet/bronso...0rsM5U4zLbeSu4


Nevada Governor Found Hoarding Hydroxychloroquine After Banning Drug

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Originally Posted by Joe Perez
“This is a tremendous opportunity to restructure things to fit our vision” - House Majority Whip James Clyburn

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Hey look, China finally admits Hong Kong is not part of China.



The Hong Kong/Cayman Islands based Phoenix Media is actually owned in large part by the Chinese Communist Party (CCP) and by a former CCP propaganda officer.

As of 2018, Phoenix Satellite Holdings was owned by Liu Changle (37.1% of shares). Changle is a “former PLA propaganda official who is close to senior Chinese government leaders”.

Changle previously worked as a propaganda officer for China National Radio (then known as the Central People’s Broadcasting Station).

A further 20 percent of the company is owned by Extra Step Investments Limited, in turn owned by China Mobile Hong Kong, which itself is owned by the Chinese government-owned China Mobile.

Eight more percent of the company is owned by China Wise Investment Ltd, owned by the Bank of China.

This means at least 65 percent of the company is owned by the government of China.

For journalist Youyou **** to claim she works for a private company is an outright lie.

The White House Correspondents Association must surely answer to why they are allowing a CCP propagandist a seat in the White House Press Briefing Room.
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TrURmp Is FI SNishEd:

"We’ve never allowed any crisis from the Civil War straight through to the pandemic of 17, all the way around, 16, we have never, never let our democracy sakes second fiddle, way they, we can both have a democracy and ... correct the public health." – Joe Biden
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trUmp IS SINGNIFsHedDSAfd:





Fun fact: China also never reported a single death at Tiananmen Square
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In the attached article, a writer for Media Matters accuses me of "downplaying the risk of COVID-19." It's a completely unfounded claim, made by a reporter named Madeline Peltz. This is what she has to say...

MP: In recent weeks, Rowe has used Facebook to downplay the risks of COVID-19. In a March 19 post to his Facebook page, which has over 5.6 million followers, Rowe criticized nationwide social distancing efforts and temporary closures of nonessential businesses, saying, “I am concerned that the medicine we’re prescribing might turn out to be more deadly than the virus we’re trying to kill."

Hi Madeline

Nothing I wrote then, and nothing you quote now, suggests that I’ve “downplayed” the risks of COVID-19 in any way whatsoever. On the contrary, I’ve affirmatively supported the effort to “flatten the curve,” and publicly encouraged people to lay low during this critical time. What seems to have offended you, is the fact that I failed to endorse this strategy indefinitely, or at any cost. This is because a strategy with no timetable is not a strategy at all – it’s just a reaction. And in my opinion, our reaction to this medical crisis – while perfectly sensible in the short term – is not sustainable for months on end.

I could be wrong, and I was careful to say as much in my original post. But I believe that reasonable people can worry about two things at the same time - specifically, the impact of a medical emergency, and the impact of an economic emergency. Both emergencies are extremely dangerous. Many in the media however, including you, have rushed to vilify anyone who dares to point that out. We’re told to fall in line, trust the experts, and wait patiently for the all clear. Okay, fine. But for how long? What are the criteria for turning the country back on? And what exactly are we supposed to do, when the experts don’t agree?

When I wrote that post nearly two weeks ago, Dr. Neil Ferguson of the Imperial College was predicting over two million Americans deaths, and over half a million in the UK. At the same time, Dr. John Ioannides at Stanford was cautioning that our leaders were reacting precipitously to “unreliable data.” Happily, Ferguson has dramatically revised his predictions downward. Not so happily, seven million Americans have filed for unemployment, and millions more are out of work. Businesses are failing, the market has crashed, 401Ks are evaporating, and the nation is gripped in fear and uncertainty. That’s not just the result of the virus. That’s the result of closing the country, with no clear criteria for reopening it.

MP: Leaning on the catchphrase “Safety Third” from a previous hour-long special he hosted, Rowe also decried “the unintended consequences of ranking Safety above everything else,” which he said is “precisely what our leaders are doing right now.”

MR: To be clear, I didn’t just “host” Safety Third – I wrote it. I also turned it into a national advocacy campaign to improve occupational safety, which I'm happy to say, succeeded. In this context however, I was pointing out that our country was not founded on "life, liberty, and the pursuit of safety." Indeed, safety - at home and on the job is rarely ever first. However, I was very careful in my post to point out that from time to time – like RIGHT NOW, there are exceptions. For once, Safety really is First, as it should be, given the circumstances.

I actually wrote those exact words, Madeline. You on the other hand, were careful to omit them from this critique. How come? Were you “downplaying” the economic disaster that’s now upon us? Or do you sincerely believe, like Andrew Cuomo and Joe Biden, that "all measures - no matter how drastic - are worthwhile, if just a single life is saved?"

MP: Rowe asked his fans to imagine if society treated automobile deaths “with the same frenzied, up-to-the minute drama as each new virus infection. Would any of us ever drive again?”

MR: That's true, and I stand by the question. Every year, millions of automotive accidents kill tens of thousands of Americans. And yet, we continue to drive. Why? If every life truly mattered, and safety were truly first, Governor Cuomo could lower the speed limit to 25 miles an hour, outlaw all left turns, and require all motorists to wear helmets. Doing so would save hundreds of lives in his state. Likewise, President Biden, should he ever become one, could save thousands more by enacting the same simple protocols. But Andrew Cuomo isn't calling for such drastic measures, and neither is Joe Biden, or any other elected official. Why do you suppose that is?

Point is, all drivers should understand the risks of operating a vehicle before they get behind the wheel, and all Americans should understand the risks of shutting down the country, before it's too late to know what we've put into motion. Because a depression is no less deadly than a virus. And saying so in public in no way "downplays" the seriousness of COVID-19.

MP: Rowe’s comments also echo President Donald Trump’s medically inaccurate talking points from a recent town hall on Fox News in which he compared the coronavirus to the flu, saying, “We’ve never closed down the country for the flu.” Rowe’s irresponsible comments on Facebook fit in with Fox News’ pattern of pushing medical misinformation, downplaying the virus, giving a platform to conspiracy theories, and engaging in racist fearmongering.

MR: With respect, Madeline, your slip is showing. You're just using me to find a new way to make a political point. That's fine - it's all part of the fun of taking a position. But tell me, where is your proof that I "misinformed," "downplayed," or engaged in any form of "racist fearmongering?" How exactly have I been "irresponsible" with my comments on Facebook, or anywhere else? I can see your contempt, but I can't find your argument. Do you actually have one?

MP: Considering the track records of the parties involved, it’s fair to doubt that viewers will come away more informed from tonight’s Fox News and Facebook town hall."

MR: It's always fair to doubt, Madeline. I do it all the time. That’s what I was doing in the blog that so offended you. I was doubting the country’s willingness to comply with a shelter in place order indefinitely. I was doubting the wisdom of reporting every confirmed infection like the latest point in a tennis match, 24/7. I was doubting the assumption that our collective safety will turn out to be the thing we value most. And yes, I was doubting the sincerity of politicians who claim that all measures, no matter how dramatic, are always worth it, even if they save just one life.

But never have I doubted the risk of COVID-19, or “downplayed” it’s threat to America. I simply offered the people on my page some context and perspective. I offer you the same thing now, and I hope you'll take it.

Either way, good luck out there and try to stay six feet away from your keyboard. (I hear they're filthy.
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I believe that reasonable people can worry about two things at the same time – specifically, the impact of a medical emergency, and the impact of an economic emergency. Both emergencies are extremely dangerous. Many in the media however, including you, have rushed to vilify anyone who dares to point that out. We’re told to fall in line, trust the experts, and wait patiently for the all clear. Okay, fine. But for how long? What are the criteria for turning the country back on? …

What seems to have offended you, is the fact that I failed to endorse this strategy indefinitely, or at any cost. This is because a strategy with no timetable is not a strategy at all – it’s just a reaction. And in my opinion, our reaction to this medical crisis – while perfectly sensible in the short term – is not sustainable for months on end.
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Remember when WHO said COVID-19 couldn't transfer from human to human for some wuhan reason?

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IMPEACH TRUMP AGAIN!

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How dare the democrats want to track where the money is going?

President Donald Trump has removed the man who had been tasked with overseeing the implementation of the $2 trillion coronavirus stimulus package that he signed into law last month, according to Politico and The Washington Post.

https://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...Ct2NwOh-cemcEs
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Liberals: "The government is doing a criminally incompetent job of addressing this crisis!"

Me: "Yes, I agree. That's why I don't think the government should be in charge of healthcare."

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I think that Bill Murray post may be a little misleading or inaccurate or both. While anyone, citizen or resident and on the books, pays federal taxes, about half of them get it all back. So only half of working Americans contribute to the debt. Also, those large corporations pay federal taxes. They also give plenty of funding to politicians. But what do I know.
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Originally Posted by triple88a
How dare the democrats want to track where the money is going?

President Donald Trump has removed the man who had been tasked with overseeing the implementation of the $2 trillion coronavirus stimulus package that he signed into law last month, according to Politico and The Washington Post.

https://www.thedenverchannel.com/new...Ct2NwOh-cemcEs
From one of your links:

Glenn Fine, who had been the acting Pentagon inspector general, was informed Monday that he was being replaced at the Defense Department by Sean W. O’Donnell, currently the inspector general at the Environmental Protection Agency.

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O’Donnell will simultaneously be inspector general at the EPA and acting IG at the Pentagon until a permanent replacement is confirmed for the Defense Department.

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...a decision that Trump acknowledged was in response to Atkinson’s having alerted lawmakers to the existence of a whistleblower complaint about the president’s dealings with Ukraine. The matter ultimately led to Trump’s impeachment in the House before his acquittal in the Senate.

Geez, I wonder why?!
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I think that Bill Murray post may be a little misleading or inaccurate or both. While anyone, citizen or resident and on the books, pays federal taxes, about half of them get it all back.
And some get more than all of it back, thanks to refundable tax credits.


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So only half of working Americans contribute to the debt.
Thing is, ain't nobody gonna have to pay for that $2 Trillion, thanks to the miracle of...




It's like a credit card with no limit that never gets cut off and sent to collections. Why spend responsibly when there are no consequences?
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Originally Posted by hector
I think that Bill Murray post may be a little misleading or inaccurate or both. While anyone, citizen or resident and on the books, pays federal taxes, about half of them get it all back. So only half of working Americans contribute to the debt. Also, those large corporations pay federal taxes. They also give plenty of funding to politicians. But what do I know.
Unfortunately, large corporations, through their various tax loopholes, do not pay their "fair" share of (federal or otherwise) taxes.....and even less so now since the tax law was enacted last year.

Atleast the 1.5T they infused (it seems that is a long lost memory for folks) will have to be paid back. The 2T?? Poofff!!
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What if I told you...Corporations don't pay taxes, consumers do.
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I would say that pretty much aligns with that I posted above.....
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I would say that pretty much aligns with that I posted above.....
My interpretation was that you missed the point of what dleavitt said.



Any taxes which are physically paid by a corporation to the government do not represent a cost to the corporation. They are merely passed along to consumers in the form of increased prices.

Here's a simple example:


Say that the government needs a million dollars in tax revenue. And they can either do this as an increase in income tax, or as an increase in corporate earnings tax.

The ACME company manufactures and sells dildoes. On average, it sells about a million dildoes a year, for $10 each. The government levies an earnings tax of 10% on ACME. In order to pay this tax, ACME increases the retail price of dildoes to $11. Sales decline slightly, but overall, everything balances out and they generate the extra $1 million dollars needed to pay the government.

Everyone who purchases a ***** now pays a higher price. But they don't just pay an extra $1. Since dildoes are not exempt from sales tax, the real price of the ***** actually goes up by around $1.06, and since you are spending money on which you've already paid income tax, the net effective increase in cost is closer to $1.30.


Or, the government could simply not tax corporations, and tax individuals directly, which would be a lot more efficient and transparent.



TL;DR:

Arguing that "corporations should pay taxes" is just a convoluted way of saying "the taxation of individuals should be made more complex, less efficient, and more opaque."





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