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Old 04-24-2013, 01:37 PM   #321
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OR MAYBE SOMEONE SET US UP THE BOMB?!!!!
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OR MAYBE SOMEONE SET US UP THE BOMB?!!!!
Yes it is a statistical probability, unfortunately it is not very probable.
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OR MAYBE SOMEONE SET US UP THE BOMB?!!!!
I'm interesting in the link you posted that I had mentioned.

How does one guy get both legs ripped off, then other people within arms reach just have a few abrasions? Or torn clothing?
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This conspiracy **** is actually kind of offensive lol.

"I’ve studied and graduated EMT-B certification with the state of Oregon. I’ve been on calls with heavy arterial bleeds, internal bleeding, fatalities, doa’s. I am speaking from direct personal experience with severe trauma."

lol EMT-B and now he is a expert on the situation? From what I can tell, EMT-B nets you about nothing for trauma care.

All these people are nutty. I'd be pissed hearing or seeing these "conspiracy" things if I had a family member that was hurt by the bombings. I do have friends who knew people that were there, and it was very real.

These are the types of people that believe this ****:

"God bless you, Truth Solider. Other’s know, too… I don’t know what is going to happen but I will say this. Our eco-system is in dire straits, we’ve got a global issue, namely mentho-hydrate coming up from the ground and global dimming while these traitors sold our liberties and their souls out… I’m sorry. I need to vent somewhere… Does anyone have a decent online site I can get closer to my God? Thank you from the bottom of my broken-down, ailing heart. I no longer no my country."
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Dick Chaney is behind the Boston bombing and 9/11!!!!!!!!!!!
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Old 04-24-2013, 01:56 PM   #326
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All these people are nutty. I'd be pissed hearing or seeing these "conspiracy" things if I had a family member that was hurt by the bombings. I do have friends who knew people that were there, and it was very real.
You sound like Blaen when he got all pissed at me for suggesting his friend in bengazi was killed by islamic terrorists...turns out he was.
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Maybe the amputee guy had on multiple shirts because it is Boston in the spring and he was cold out? I mean how many people in all the pictures had multiple layers of clothing?
Not according to the pictures seconds after the blast. plus the shirt is perfectly white, yet the guy who said he tied the shirt has bloody hands, and no where else. And seriously, I'd really expect more gore form those limbs...I say this as an internet user that's seen pretty gruesome stuff.
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Possible explanation for the 'training exercise'.

If FBI/CIA/Homeland Security/NSA/whoever got a hint that something might happen at the marathon, they may have used "training exercise" as an excuse to up the manpower there without panicking anyone. If the intelligence was not solid enough to justify a warning and severely affect the event, then a training exercise would be a good excuse. Maybe it's just in the movies but don't they like the "training exercise" excuse in the military to get troops to where they think they might be needed and ready?
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Possible explanation for the 'training exercise'.

If FBI/CIA/Homeland Security/NSA/whoever got a hint that something might happen at the marathon, they may have used "training exercise" as an excuse to up the manpower there without panicking anyone. If the intelligence was not solid enough to justify a warning and severely affect the event, then a training exercise would be a good excuse. Maybe it's just in the movies but don't they like the "training exercise" excuse in the military to get troops to where they think they might be needed and ready?
I'd buy this, considering after the Senate hearing there may have been prior knowledge.
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This conspiracy **** is actually kind of offensive lol.

"I’ve studied and graduated EMT-B certification with the state of Oregon. I’ve been on calls with heavy arterial bleeds, internal bleeding, fatalities, doa’s. I am speaking from direct personal experience with severe trauma."

lol EMT-B and now he is a expert on the situation? From what I can tell, EMT-B nets you about nothing for trauma care.
I'd like to hear your expert opinion.


http://atruthsoldier.wordpress.com/2...oston-bombing/

I swear, when I first saw the pics of the blown-off legs guy, my first thought was "Wow, that amputee probably ex-soldier, sure has bad luck, being near a bomb again". I did NOT realize until today that it was the same "key witness" whose legs were supposedly blown off:

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Bo...519/story.html
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"We consider it a good principle to explain the phenomena by the simplest hypothesis possible."

Ptolemy (c. AD 90 – c. AD 168)
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I'd like to hear your expert opinion.


Frame by Frame analysis of Crisis Actors preparing double amputee ACTOR at Boston Bombing A Truth Soldier

I swear, when I first saw the pics of the blown-off legs guy, my first thought was "Wow, that amputee probably ex-soldier, sure has bad luck, being near a bomb again". I did NOT realize until today that it was the same "key witness" whose legs were supposedly blown off:

Bombing suspect 'looked right at me,' says witness who lost both legs in marathon explosion
lolwut?

I don't have time to post now, but I will later.
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As the second bomb went off 100 metres away, Arredondo intervened to rescue Bauman. He held an exposed artery between his thumb and forefinger to stop the bleeding from his legs.

"He had no legs," said Arredondo. "I told him, 'My name's Carlos, you're going to be OK. Help is on the way.'"

He grabbed one of the first things he saw that might work as a tourniquet - a sweater - which he ripped apart to stem the bleeding.
again, pictures refute this.

Arredondo did not intervene, there's pictures/video of him ignoring everyone on the ground and instead focusing on knocking down the fence at least for the first minute or so after the blast.


YEEEEEHAAAAA COWBOYS. Dont let go of the flag.

Bauman doesnt appear to be bleeding at the scene, there's blood all around sure, but I'd expect more than that from the loss of two legs...where are the rest of his body parts? Plus, how in the world would this guy know to hold 1 artery in order to stop all the bleeding from both legs? then what was the point of the tourniquiet? and really? a shirt? that's not going to work...he should be sparying blood at every heartbeat like a siv.

Pictures of Arredondo wheeling Bauman out show barely any blood on his hands, even though he apparently dug through this guy's limbs and grabbed a hanging artiery to stop the bleeding and loosely tied a shirt around his perfectly cut off leg. there is no blood on the shirt he used, or his own.

Later he is pictured, hours laters, still walking around looking for people to take picutes of him and holding a small US flag he never let go of that is covered in red ink. I say ink because it looks like ink, not blood.



also the article says a sweater, not a shirt. pictures show it appears to be a clean white shirt.


And where did he get the wheelchair from? where were paramedics? why did he wheel this guy out in the middle of the street on a wheechair and not paramedics that were on scene at this point? why werent paramedics at the bomb site tending to wounds? why are there so many people in the videos taken of the shot and of the blast zone helping vicitms? they are all standing around trying to knock down the fence, but no one goes and helps the wounded.



it looks like medical staff wore white adidas jackets, peopel wearing gloves are tending to legs...i still dont see him helping...gotta make sure his hat is on good though.


anyways, i did find a super high res of the legs in question and yuk. You can see there's a really tight red clotch tied around that could possibly do something, the white stuff is for show. If you go back to some of the initial videos of the blast, you can see a dude in a white shirt hand it to someone. btw, at this point im just talking to myself and discounting this guy as a hero is all.

at two minutes and thrity seconds after the blast, cowboy still has yet to tend to victims, others have already rushed to help, he's still dicking with the fence at 2:38 into the video.

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I'm not directly linking because of the photo still of the video shown. also, this videographer does a great job of avoiding showing the victims, but a hell of a good job showing the buildings...
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Does this look like bone to anyone?
Looks like prosthetic legs to me.
When I first saw the pic I thought some poor unlucky bastard with artificial legs was near the bomb.

http://buelahman.files.wordpress.com...50&h=630&h=562
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Does this look like bone to anyone?


it looks completely different here (3000px of graphic img):

http://i.imgur.com/NekrRnX.jpg
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hey look, plausible:

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Damnit, Jason. How about a warning? At least Trutheack was linking to his nasty pictures. Not all of us are desensitized to human gore and suffering. Why don't you go to some "Faces of Death" style sites and check out some mangled tibias for comparison.


Also, this thread has now eclipsed the shitty daily driver thread as the most disappointing one I've seen on this board.
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The medias story of things not lining up with the pictures doesn't really mean anything.

Unless you guys suddenly trust them to be factually correct.
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also, when I watch something like this:


The guy makes it look a lot larger than it is... but okay. This is the video FBI released, and we now know suspect #2, according to the U.S. affidavit against him, claims he did the second bomb and suspect #1 did the first bomb.

okay, then how did he fit this:



in that bag? the above pic looks like the object is much larger than what it appears in teh FBI video footage of the bags.

It doesn't look like the backpack itself, so he had to of walked up to the gate, push those ladies out of the way, remove his sack, remove the bag, put it down and set the timer, and then work his way out of the crowd.

where's the images of him doing this? we have this shot and the after shot, why not during?


Legs guy, in the article Jason linked, says blast #1 happened almost instantaniously where suspect #1 dropped the bag at his feet and it blew up.
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The medias story of things not lining up with the pictures doesn't really mean anything.
I just dont want people to think this guy is a hero, cause honestly, he didn't do **** but pose for pictures.

I'm a huge sceptic of everything, look how I responded to nitrodann's dynos

I just have so many questions that aren't answered my mind goes crazy. I already know I'm crazy, but then I just read the stories, the official PR, see the photos, and im just like wtf it doesn't add up to me. I'm mainly just venting, and this is how I do it, but I still think I bring up some good questions, even if what I'm alluding to might be 100% wrong.
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