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12-24-2007, 10:13 PM
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No Chad, they're dead spot on the same size. I put them upside down on the floor next to one another and put a book on top of both. Just in case my eyes deceived me. Anyhow, give me a couple of days and I'll be able to confirm there are no issues mixing both.
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12-24-2007, 10:23 PM
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depending on the car they came off of, they have different part numbers. but they should all be the same thing. When you start buying Camry coils, you'll notice they don't look the same.
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12-30-2007, 04:03 AM
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I'm excited so I had to post this up.
You 1994-1997 guys are looking for the coil pack male side plug to make true PNP and I can help a little! I'm happy that I'm able to contribute to this thread finally!
The 1.8 has a small harness that stays with the engine connecting to the coils, water temp sensor, dash temp sensor, and fuel injectors. I removed one of those and ripped it apart finding that its actually TWO separate harnesses taped together!!!!!
Injectors, Temp sensors are all part of ONE harness, the COILS are part of the second with nothing but tape connecting them!
So what we need to do is find a part number somewhere for THIS connector shell and get some pins!
1: Blue +12V Switched
2: Black Ground
3: Brown 2/3 Ignitor
4: Black/White Tach
5: Brown/Yellow 1/4 Ignitor
6: Blank
I've tried to read this entire thread to make sure nobody has gone over this, so I can't guarantee this is new news... but far as I can see, nobody else has posted about this yet. Now, think we can find this connector for plug and play??
You 1994-1997 guys are looking for the coil pack male side plug to make true PNP and I can help a little! I'm happy that I'm able to contribute to this thread finally!
The 1.8 has a small harness that stays with the engine connecting to the coils, water temp sensor, dash temp sensor, and fuel injectors. I removed one of those and ripped it apart finding that its actually TWO separate harnesses taped together!!!!!
Injectors, Temp sensors are all part of ONE harness, the COILS are part of the second with nothing but tape connecting them!
So what we need to do is find a part number somewhere for THIS connector shell and get some pins!
1: Blue +12V Switched
2: Black Ground
3: Brown 2/3 Ignitor
4: Black/White Tach
5: Brown/Yellow 1/4 Ignitor
6: Blank
I've tried to read this entire thread to make sure nobody has gone over this, so I can't guarantee this is new news... but far as I can see, nobody else has posted about this yet. Now, think we can find this connector for plug and play??
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12-30-2007, 04:22 AM
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Yeah some guy from Russia or Turkey has already done something similar. I don't think he sourced a connector though. He did splice all his connections into that connector though i believe.
I might also be thinking of the guy with the 1.6 in his '99, which was a euro only option.
I might also be thinking of the guy with the 1.6 in his '99, which was a euro only option.
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12-30-2007, 07:46 AM
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I don't know if this will help others with 96/97 cars but in my case we removed the resin from the male connector attached to the coil packs and connected the new coil on plugs to the female connectors. Crude but effective. This way I was able to at least keep the female connectors in the cars.
elesjuan, I'll check your solution but, the 3 connectors in my car are not equidistant. Don't forget that my connector has 1 missing pin out of the 4.
BTW Chad, I'm using the 2 different parts numbers cops without issues. I just used the 19015 in 1&4 and the 02239 in cylinders 2&3.
elesjuan, I'll check your solution but, the 3 connectors in my car are not equidistant. Don't forget that my connector has 1 missing pin out of the 4.
BTW Chad, I'm using the 2 different parts numbers cops without issues. I just used the 19015 in 1&4 and the 02239 in cylinders 2&3.
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12-30-2007, 02:14 PM
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I don't know if this will help others with 96/97 cars but in my case we removed the resin from the male connector attached to the coil packs and connected the new coil on plugs to the female connectors. Crude but effective. This way I was able to at least keep the female connectors in the cars.
elesjuan, I'll check your solution but, the 3 connectors in my car are not equidistant. Don't forget that my connector has 1 missing pin out of the 4.
BTW Chad, I'm using the 2 different parts numbers cops without issues. I just used the 19015 in 1&4 and the 02239 in cylinders 2&3.
elesjuan, I'll check your solution but, the 3 connectors in my car are not equidistant. Don't forget that my connector has 1 missing pin out of the 4.
BTW Chad, I'm using the 2 different parts numbers cops without issues. I just used the 19015 in 1&4 and the 02239 in cylinders 2&3.
this is how far along i got...trying to remove the epoxy and try to retain the plastic in place...ill post more pics once im further along
but im getting there...
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12-30-2007, 02:57 PM
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. I really would like to get additional info on how are you planning to remove the rest of the resin. If you pull that part of you're going to have the best of both worlds.
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12-30-2007, 03:01 PM
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Dan, here's a thought: what would happen to the metal pins if you tried to use some kind of liquid solvent to dissolve the epoxy resin? Let me know if you want to pursue that route so I can contact a friend who's the technical director at a local paint manufacturing company and deals with resins and solvents everyday.
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12-30-2007, 03:43 PM
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Dan, here's a thought: what would happen to the metal pins if you tried to use some kind of liquid solvent to dissolve the epoxy resin? Let me know if you want to pursue that route so I can contact a friend who's the technical director at a local paint manufacturing company and deals with resins and solvents everyday.
Problem with liquid solvent is if it'll dissolve the epoxy it'll likely just melt the plastic away too.. But I could be wrong.
There might be a plastic safe epoxy remover?
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12-30-2007, 07:02 PM
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I've just spent 90 minutes looking through Tycos online catalog for a connector that looks somewhat remotely close to the connector I photographed with no luck at all.
Problem with liquid solvent is if it'll dissolve the epoxy it'll likely just melt the plastic away too.. But I could be wrong.
There might be a plastic safe epoxy remover?
Problem with liquid solvent is if it'll dissolve the epoxy it'll likely just melt the plastic away too.. But I could be wrong.
There might be a plastic safe epoxy remover?
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12-30-2007, 11:30 PM
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Really hoped someone had a line on that connector I posted.
Think when it warms up I'm gonna hit up the junk yard and start grabbing those connectors if I can find them on anything else Mazda. They like to use the same plugs on other cars so I've got some fair luck getting a few.
If I can just find the little crimp pins then I'd really be golden. Don't really need the solution myself, I've got this pigtail I'm planning on using.. Just on the lookout for everyone else.
Think when it warms up I'm gonna hit up the junk yard and start grabbing those connectors if I can find them on anything else Mazda. They like to use the same plugs on other cars so I've got some fair luck getting a few.
If I can just find the little crimp pins then I'd really be golden. Don't really need the solution myself, I've got this pigtail I'm planning on using.. Just on the lookout for everyone else.
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