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Old 04-24-2016, 07:23 AM   #501
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Old 04-24-2016, 04:35 PM   #502
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I forgot to say what one need to do to fit the tse kit

First of all: this is my intercooler routing:

a 135 degrees elbow shorted to around 100 degrees



a different route of the ps tank





I rotated the tank too, and used the oem pipe and clamps

the exhaust obviously





the intercooler routing also have a 45 degrees elbow and a 90 degrees at the end







there aren't other things to do to fit it, it's a pnp kit after all.

the filter is temporary here, until I have a smaller one to fit



after the break-in









BTW, I started to make the oil catch tank
dual -10an feed and one big *** 34mm breather filter
this is what it looks like:

























after cleaning, very fallout4 style





Tomorrow I will weld two -10an bungs on the valve cover and install it
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Old 04-24-2016, 04:35 PM   #503
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double post... Why
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Old 04-24-2016, 05:16 PM   #504
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Will that hose rip off when the engine torques under load?
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Old 04-24-2016, 05:19 PM   #505
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nope, it is flexible enough, I mean, it's working so far
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nope, it is flexible enough, I mean, it's working so far
We looked at that briefly but decided against it. On an aftermarket engine mount it's probably OK. On stock mounts, no way. We have a prototype extension hose that routes the PS hose around the back of the oil drain and then back forward to maintain the flexibility needed in that hose.

For the ic coupler, we are using a 60deg bend that fires straight down next to the ac compressor, but yours works too. It's definitely tight in there but doable.
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Old 04-25-2016, 02:49 AM   #508
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Oh, I forgot to say, since I'm using the internal 250 kPa map sensor I've turn the boost down to 200kPa because stayin at 245 makes it hit boost cut with the colder air.
Well, I turned down to 180kPa and it's creeping at 250+ after 6000rpm anyway, what the...?
I've got the medium boost actuator set to 8 turns of preload, the manual says it's around 10psi, so ok, it's 10 psi, but the creep is real.

Anyone experienced this? I cannot drive on track with that kind of power, it's too much

Oh, a 4 bar map sensor is on the to-do list
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Old 04-25-2016, 04:53 AM   #509
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yep, the cause of the creep was just... me
the preload was 14 turns, instead of maximum of 7, the wastegate was simply... close

oh, and I can reach 18psi at 3200rpm
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14 half turns

My instinctive logic told me pulling out the spring, by preloading, would 'help' the boost-preassure push open the wastegate. your kind of pulling it towards opening the wastegate



pic from turbosmart.com


but looking at the physics:
Newtons III. law

F= Pressure * Area = Hooks Law = konstant * x (spring displacement)

increasing preload = increasing x ==> must leads to an increase in Pressure to overcome equilibrium

qed

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14 half turns

My instinctive logic told me pulling out the spring, by preloading, would 'help' the boost-preassure push open the wastegate. your kind of pulling it towards opening the wastegate



pic from turbosmart.com


but looking at the physics:
Newtons III. law

F= Pressure * Area = Hooks Law = konstant * x (spring displacement)

increasing preload = increasing x ==> must leads to an increase in Pressure to overcome equilibrium

qed
Precisely, I just drove the car with 5 mm of preload and the wastegate boost is 150kPa, and I'm using 5% less of gasoline compared to the gt2560 at 220kPa













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I have been thinking about putting my new breather can in that same location.
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I have been thinking about putting my new breather can in that same location.
It fits very well, dimensions are 3" (I used part of the exhaust) x 4" x 3"

Yesterday I decided 220 kpa was not enough for... well scare me again, so I've made my first pcb using eagle







I'm using the 12v supply for the wideband, analog GND for reference and the external map pin for the reverant ms2, oh and it's a 400kPa sensor
tomorrow I will find out what 260 kPa seems like on a efr 6758
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Today I didn't had time to install the 4 bar map sensor, but I tuned ve table for lpg on wastegate and it's making over 200whp, I'm very happy with the result

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Why didn't you just swap the on board sensor out for the 3.5bar drop in one for like $10?
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this 4 bar sensor is a drop in replacement for the 2.5 bar I have, but I don't know if I can change the values for the internal one
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so I've made my first pcb using eagle
I've been trying to teach myself to use eagle lately and it has made me a sad panda.
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LPG, like, propane? wat?
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LPG, like, propane? wat?
precisely
I think is the fastest lpg miata in sardinia
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