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Old 11-15-2009, 10:22 PM   #361
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Under 250 hp and staying off the track will lessen hassle considerably. Sav's car goes through a lot, those of us with street-driven cars don't blow things up nearly as much.
Yeah I know, it just makes me very nervous every time I see that someone else has blown up. I've always had pretty poor luck with cars, so if anybody on the street is going to blow up it will be me, so I have to be sure I go all out and build for absolute reliability. I can sacrifice power for longevity. Maybe I will just rebuild, go with BEGi S2 or equivalent and be sure to use safety wire before I even install it, and go gasketless and have both manifold and turbo machined as flat as possible. Run the 2560 at maybe 12-14psi with a safe tune on the MS and hope for the best.

LS1 Miata would still be something I would absolutely love to do in the future. All of this is still several years out, so I shouldn't even talk about plans that far out. For now it will have to be slow and ugly.
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double post ftl.

i hate it when people generalize a problem like that.
okay, so stay n/a like emilio and have the t-body plate bolts get loose and sucked into the motor ruining motor after motor. so that's gonna happen to all the n/a cars. just like all turbo motors are gonna suffer the same fate as savington's right? built n/a or ls1 i will still demolish you on the track!
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Under 250 hp and staying off the track will lessen hassle considerably. Sav's car goes through a lot, those of us with street-driven cars don't blow things up nearly as much.
more like "never." One lap at the track is as much drama as a street car sees in a month.
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Wow.. i hope sav pokes in this thread soon. I'm very sad to hear the motor went boom.
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more like "never." One lap at the track is as much drama as a street car sees in a month.
I'd say never, but there's been a rash of blown engines lately and not all of them were track cars. Brain's on his what, 4th engine now? It's a miracle mine hasn't popped yet.
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I'd say never, but there's been a rash of blown engines lately and not all of them were track cars. Brain's on his what, 4th engine now? It's a miracle mine hasn't popped yet.
Dont say this
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Well ima have to disagree there koto it seems the latest wave of failures, is do to our overreliance on electronic gizmos. In otherwords we got a awesome wave of technology and forgot our old tunning adages, and actualy pushed some stuff alittle bit, and geus what it gave. Save is one of the few that realy stepped up and ran his **** supper hard. And i salute him for it, he just got caught by some bad luck.
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It is really cool to see a community rally around a car/driver/team. I was really sorry to see Andrew have to pack it up. We needed another bullet in the Mazda gun to take on JC's 295 on all 4 corner shod S2k. Andrew - the car and your performance this week were really impressive. You've built a car in a short period of time to do what it took my car 2 years to accomplish. My hat's off you to. I ended up missing top step on the podium by less than half a tenth. (the S2k ran a high 2:45.4 and I ran a 2:45.5)

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Thanks to everyone. I'm pooped, I'll talk more about everything tomorrow.
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It is really cool to see a community rally around a car/driver/team. I was really sorry to see Andrew have to pack it up. We needed another bullet in the Mazda gun to take on JC's 295 on all 4 corner shod S2k. Andrew - the car and your performance this week were really impressive. You've built a car in a short period of time to do what it took my car 2 years to accomplish. My hat's off you to. I ended up missing top step on the podium by less than half a tenth. (the S2k ran a high 2:45.4 and I ran a 2:45.5)

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Found all the results from today:

Unlimited All Wheel Drive
1. Paul Gerrard AMS Performance/NOS Energy Drink Evo X1:36.230
2. David Empringham Sierra Sierra Evo 1:38.028
3. Brian Lock GOTO Racing/Dell Equallogic Nissan GT-R 1:38.677
4. Tarzan Yamada Crawford Performance Subaru STi 1:40.505
5. Mike Cronin Jr. Fontana Nissan Nissan GT-R 1:44.026

Unlimited Front Wheel Drive
1. Chris Rado World Racing Scion tC 1:39.381
2. Katsuyuki Hiranaka Team 5Zigen Honda Civic 1:44.693
3. Jason Saini Tripoint Engineering Mazda 6 1:46.558
4. Andrew Gillis AIT Racing Ford Focus 1:53.549
5. Frank Yeung HPS Yokahama GP 1:56.300
6. Ryan Lapp 2:04.910

Unlimited RWD
1. Billy Johnson FX Motorsports Development Acura NSX 1:36.103

Modified All Wheel Drive
1. Ryan Gates RyanGates311.com/AMS Performance Evo X 1:43.497
2. Mike Cronin Jr. Fontana Nissan 1:44.730
3. Sharif Abdelbaset Forged Performance 1:44.943
4. Russ Warr LIC Performance/Crawford/Toyo 1:45.772
5. Dieter Heniz C-Spec Tuning/RobiSpec/RRE Time Attack Evo 1:45.904
6. James Elterman Takata 1:47.862
7. Jared Stoops Forged Performance 1:48.469
8. Carl Rydquist Citytireonline Porsche 911 1:50.004
9. Dez Ballard Gruppe-S/Hankook Tires 1:51.056
10. Ken Xu K&W Autobody/APM Racing/AIT Racing 1:53.425
11. Joel Miller Sparco USA/Designcraft 1:56.396
12. Dusty Nabor NNI Racing/101 Pipe/sparco 1:57.555
13. Kevin Welker Rally Innovations 2:01.064

Modified Front Wheel Drive
1. Tom Liang Racelikebunnies.com 1:58.991
2. John Lindeman Gear-X/Toyo Tire 2:02.176
3. Ross Miller PTuning 2:11.543
4. Jeremy Hugee 2:13.839

Modified Rear Wheel Drive
1. JC Meynet 1:45.462
2. Matt Andrews Nitto 1:45.541
3. Richard Taylor AE Performance/Hankook/JIC/Etnies 1:48.381
4. Alex Latteri 1:49.186
5. Stephen Ruiz 1:49.458
6. Jeremy Renshaw AFI Turbo/Kenney Ent/Willwood/Competition Clutch 1:49.706
7. Isaac Schumacher 1:50.343
8. Dave Lemon Mazdatrix Mazda RX-7 1:50.750
9. Jacob Tanaka NittoTires/Sams Autoland/Technosquare/SCT/XXR Wheels 1:51.746
10. Stu Hayner 1:51.895
11. Steve Butscher 1:52.785
12. Billy Brooks 1:57.214
13. James King 1:58.461
14. Ryan Rush 1:59.171
15. Ed Bergenholtz Nitto/Mazda No Time

Drift
1. Rhys Millen RMR/Hyundai/Red Bull Hyundai Genesis 1:48.004
2. Kyle Mohan Mazdatrix/Exedy/Turbonetics Mazda RX-7 1:54.025
3. Henry Schelley HPS/Baker/Driftspeed Nissan S14 1:57.497
4. Sasha Radojovic 2:01.621

Buddy Club Street All Wheel Drive
1. Jeremy Toye Reese Tuning 1:47.678
2. Stephen Ruiz Stoptech 1:49.050
3. Russ Warr M1FD/Tuning Tech/Octane Report 1:49.144
4. Tony Wiesenhahn Turn In Concepts 1:49.290
5. Erik Islas Robispec/Tuning Technologies 1:49.697
6. Tony Fuentes Island Motorsports/US Army/Spec Clutches/TITEK 1:55.452
7. Mauricio Calderon Massimo Power/AE Performance/Domospeed 1:58.729
8. Strothuer Jones 2:07.576

Buddy Club Street Front Wheel Drive
1. Clint Boisdeau FocusSport Ford Focus 1:56.844
2. Chris Stout Stout Performance 1:57.440
3. Jason Nathan 1:59.349
4. Brian Alvarez Tripoint/CP-E/Yokohama/HKS/Recaro 2:02.000
5. Alan Bowers 2:03.774
6. Charles Tran PlanB Motorsports/Special Projects MS 2:06.895
7. Sean Davies ExoSpeed 2:13.862
8. Danny Martinez Project Import No Time

Buddy Club Street Rear Wheel Drive
1. Jeremy Croiset MCS Motorsports/Berk Tek/KW Toyota MR2 1:50.692
2. Robert Choo DSPORT/Hankook/Vorte 1:51.617
3. Jeff Tyler HP Autowerks 1:52.811
4. Manly Kao TrackHQ/Buddyclub/Toyo/APR 1:53.640
5. Mike Bonanni Berk Technology BMW 135i 1:54.909
6. Kenny Chieu Konod 1:56.451
7. Mike Bonanni DoubleDownMotorsport.com Nissan 370Z 1:56.852
8. Eddie Lim KW 2:00.000
9. Mike Haddad Haddad Motorsports 2:05.179
10. Matt Johnson 2:05.180
11. Gregory Haye 2:05.348

Stock AWD
1. Matt Dennison TuningTech/RobiSpec/Mil.spec
2. Thomas Smith Zenkai Motorsports/Crawford/Duratec/Motul 1:53.884
3. Jon Drenas 1:55.173
4. Roger Hocking 1:55.753
5. Rigo Lafontaina Southcoast Mitsibushi 1:56.224
6. Chris Reber 2:00.296
7. Michele Abbate 2:00.411
8. Istvan Kiang 2:02.577
9. Verena Mei Southcoast Mitsubishi 2:07.118

Buddy Club Stock Front Wheel Drive
1. Dez Ballard ABF Performance / Gruppe-S 1:59.595
2. Eric Emerson E&A Motorsports 2:03.404
3. Adrian Torres Racelikebunnies.com 2:07.742

Buddy Club Stock Rear Wheel Drive
1. Paul Dentice AE Performance/Hankook/JIC/Etnies 1:55.534
2. Robi Fuller RobiSpec 1:55.670
3. Jim Tway 1:56.201
4. Ed Lee 1:58.166
5. Jairo Jaramillo Track HQ/Gableitfilms 2:02.063
6. Thomas Barrett Corvette Specialties 2:02.119
7. Christian Burke Circuit Motorsports/FSR/Hellfish Racing 2:05.104
8. Paul Paniagua Circuit Motorsports/FSR/Hellfish Racing 2:06.390
9. Christopher Chen VT Engineering 2:07.420

Super Session
1. Billy Johnson U-RWD 1:38.881 FXMD
2. David Empringham U-AWD 1:39.208 Sierra Sierra
3. Brian Lock U-AWD 1:39.359 GOTO Racing/Dell Equallogic
4. Mike Cronin Jr. U-AWD 1:43.087 Fontana Nissan
5. JC Meynet M-RWD 1:47.261
6. Sharif Abdelbaset M-QWD 1:49.321 Forged Performance
7. James Elterman M-AWD 1:49.418 Takta
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but there's been a rash of blown engines lately
You don't expect everyone that doesn't blow his motor to post about it very month, right? This is MT.net, no wonder people poop their engine very now and then. Either from a bad tune, overheat, etc.

FWIFW, The RingMazda.com runs a T25 at 0.8bar (12psi?) with a 5th inj bandaid, on a OEM/unopened block with over around 150k, on the Nürburgring, flat out, in about 8mins, for well over a year now. Now THAT is some sturdy engine.
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Damn, Matt was only .1 off the win yesterday to a realllllllllllllllllllly expensive car.
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You don't expect everyone that doesn't blow his motor to post about it very month, right? This is MT.net, no wonder people poop their engine very now and then. Either from a bad tune, overheat, etc.
I'm not going to keep re-wording my previous statement and clutter up Sav's thread, you two win. No one's blown their engine lately.
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Save is one of the few that realy stepped up and ran his **** supper hard. And i salute him for it, he just got caught by some bad luck.
Losing part of a spark plug is a horrendous way to lose a motor. A $1.50 part that's really never supposed to fail. Whether that failure was due to the stress of racing or if it would have failed idling while stuck in traffic would be interesting to know. Bad plug or some other problem that killed it?


Matt, Congrats. That's huge. Good to have both you and Andrew out there getting it done. Is there more information about the individual cars in the competition anywhere? I'd love to see what the other cars in your class were like.
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I hope it just incinerated and didn't cause any damage. Lets see some pics!
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here you go - Trackhq.com included Grand Am times and records to put the times in perspective. there is some crazy machinery out there...

1:33.7XX - Grand Am Daytona Prototype best lap
1:35.2XX - Grand Am Daytona Prototype avg. lap
1:36.103 - Billy Johnson FX Motorsports Development Acura NSX - 1st URWD
1:36.230 - Paul Gerrard AMS Performance/NOS Energy Drink EvoX -1st UAWD
1:38.028 - David Empringham Sierra Sierra Evo 1:38.028 - UAWD
1:38.381 - Chris Rado World Racing Scion tC 1:39.381 - 1st UFWD
1:38.677 - Brian Lock GOTO Racing/Dell Equallogic Nissan GT-R - UAWD
1:40.505 - Tarzan Yamada Crawford Performance Subaru STi - UAWD
1:41.5XX - Grand Am GT best lap (M3GTR)
1:43.497 - Ryan Gates RyanGates311.com/AMS Performance Evo X - 1st MAWD
1:44.693 - Katsuyuki Hiranaka Team 5Zigen Honda Civic - UFWD
1:45.462 - JC Meynet - 1st MRWD
1:45.541 - Matt Andrews Nitto - MRWD
1:46.558 - Jason Saini Tripoint Engineering Mazda 6 -UFWD (Uncorked WCTC)
1:47.678 - Jeremy Toye Reese Tuning - 1st SAWD
1:48.004 - Rhys Millen RMR/Hyundai/Red Bull Hyundai Genesis - Drift
1:49.186 - AJ Latteri MRWD
1:50.004 - Carl Rydquist Citytireonline Porsche 911 - MAWD
1:50.692 - Jeremy Croiset MCS Motorsports/Berk Tek/KW Toyota MR2 - 1st SRWD
1:52.811 - Jeff Tyler HP Autowerks - SRWD
1:53.640 - Manly Kao TrackHQ/Buddyclub/Toyo/APR - SRWD
1:54.909 - Mike Bonanni Berk Technology BMW 135i - SRWD
1:55.534 - Paul Dentice AE Performance/Hankook/JIC/Etnies - 1st StkRWD
1:56.451 - Kenny Chieu Konod - SRWD
1:56.844 - Clint Boisdeau FocusSport Ford Focus - 1st SFWD
1:58.166 - Ed Lee - StkRWD
1:58.991 - Tom Liang Racelikebunnies.com - 1st MFWD
1:59.171 - Ryan Rush - MRWD
1:59.595 - Dez Ballard ABF Performance / Gruppe-S - 1st StkFWD
2:00.000 - Eddie Lim KW - SRWD
2:02.063 - Jairo Jaramillo Track HQ/Gableitfilms - StkRWD
2:02.119 - Thomas Barrett Corvette Specialties - StkRWD
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Damn, sorry to hear about your bad luck Andrew.

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Maybe time for him to go to surface gap plugs like we use in many of the engines at work.
Has anyone on here used those type of plugs before?

I spent some time searching for info on these plugs and it seems they are common on boating engines.

Bill, do you have any links to info/discussions of these plugs and practical applications for us? Would the typical COP setup be sufficient to fire them?

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built n/a or ls1 i will still demolish you on the track!
show me a LS1 Miata that won't get lapped by Sav in one 30 minutes session.

Sav: did you crank up any more boost AFTER the dyno ?
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show me a LS1 Miata that won't get lapped by Sav in one 30 minutes session.

Sav: did you crank up any more boost AFTER the dyno ?
you are talking about driver here, not the machine. not a correct argument.
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