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Old 11-16-2009, 06:32 PM   #381
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Put Sav in a ls1 miata and compare his times to a turbo car. We still haven't had a same driver comparison of the two breeds.
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You're on speedhunters too: EVENT>>SUPER LAP CONCLUSION - Speedhunters
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Old 11-16-2009, 06:44 PM   #383
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Well...we all know your effort was much more than the "also ran" conclusion and attention.

Really sucks to know that you have a faster car and better skills, but didn't get the opportunity to prove it.

I can only wish you better luck next time, and ask that you never lose the motivation that got you so close Sav.
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Old 11-16-2009, 06:58 PM   #384
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Well...we all know your effort was much more than the "also ran" conclusion and attention.

Really sucks to know that you have a faster car and better skills, but didn't get the opportunity to prove it.

I can only wish you better luck next time, and ask that you never lose the motivation that got you so close Sav.
I'd like to trade cars with Savingaids and see what we can do...and see who is making the test and who's biting the pillow. I'm prepared to bite the pillow but not without a few cracks on Savinghomo's *** with my riding crop.
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you are talking about driver here, not the machine. not a correct argument.
ok, show me a LS1 Miata lap faster than VegaXT, TrackdayHookey, Bbundy, Emilio949racing's Miata think of it, has any LS1 Miata lapped faster than Spec Miata record yet ? pretty sure the potential is huge. but no one has built a fast one yet. when they do go fast, I believe parts will also start to break.

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Put Sav in a ls1 miata and compare his times to a turbo car. We still haven't had a same driver comparison of the two breeds.
not so sure Sav know how to drive a LS1. he will be fiddling down the straight, trying to find that boost ****
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Old 11-16-2009, 07:12 PM   #386
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Now that I've gotten some real sleep:

First, thanks to everyone here. All your comments and appreciation really helped me push through these last couple of weeks. It's a tough end to the effort, but we showed our face and hopefully rustled some feathers out there. Our times in morning practice had us 3rd in the M-RWD field on Sunday.

Second, thanks to 949Racing. Emilio supplied a litany of super bitchin' parts to make sure my car had the hardware to run with the big dogs, and supplied his knowledge to help us get the chassis totally dialed on Saturday. The car is really easy to drive, even with 320whp and 300tq, which says a lot for the suspension, the diff, and the setup in general.

Third, a HUGE thanks to Kraftwerks and Oscar Jackson Sr. We blew a silicone coupler on Saturday and not only was he able to provide the part to fix it (at 7pm on a Saturday), he also let us jump on his dyno to get the power we knew we'd need to compete. Thanks to Matt Andrews for loaning us his flatbed on Saturday night to get over there as well. Matt is a genuinely nice guy, the kind of person I wish all competitors were modeled after, and I wish him luck next year.

Fourth, Tim Fodor at ABUSRDflow. For all the sleepness nights I had, he's probably had just as many thinking about how his manifold is going to hold up. Even under the foolish abuse, his hardware never skipped a beat all weekend - and the car makes 21psi at 4500rpm. On the street, I'd estimate we'd be seeing 20+psi under 4k.

Fifth, thanks to my business partners and friends Nick (crashnscar) and Sean (Carthusiast). They supplied the crew support a car like this essentially requires at the event, and some good photography to boot. We had a couple of test parts in the car, including a new MASSIVE triple-pass dual-core 3" thick radiator that will be on the market soon. My coolant temps never ventured over 200 degrees the entire weekend.

Now, the motor: The symptoms are no compression in cylinder 3, and massive blowby (popped the dipstick up and threw a quart of oil all over the engine bay when it blew). It popped coming out of turn 2 (off the banking), and I'm coming through there at nearly 7000rpm in 6th gear. Oil starve exiting 2 is pretty well documented at this point, so the rebuild will include an auto-firing Accusump. We will pull it apart this week and post our findings. Unfortunately the next Miata Challenge event at Calspeed is off our calendar at this point, but we'll be back in December at Buttonwillow to try and wrap up the Unlimited championship.
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Holy **** sav, sounds like your ready to jump right back in.. by december?!. So.. oil starvation may be the culprit? What a bitch.


Gl keep us updated on the rebuild rebuild.
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Old 11-16-2009, 07:46 PM   #388
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hell a stock miata will slosh oil enough to change oil pressure under heavy braking.
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Sav, let's see a proper accusump kit from trackspeed and I'll buy one.
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ok, show me a LS1 Miata lap faster than VegaXT, TrackdayHookey, Bbundy, Emilio949racing's Miata think of it, has any LS1 Miata lapped faster than Spec Miata record yet ? pretty sure the potential is huge. but no one has built a fast one yet. when they do go fast, I believe parts will also start to break.


not so sure Sav know how to drive a LS1. he will be fiddling down the straight, trying to find that boost ****
The point is the LSX motor will be less stressed because its running no forced induction and will be basically stock with cams, headers, intake. Your right though, the potentail is super huge. A mild L33 can make 340-350whp, for cheap like under $1500 including the engine. Can we start a new thread on the merits/downfalls of the LS motors?


Good job Sav, way to represent the Turbo Miata community!
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Sorry to hear about the engine Sav, I have faith you'll rebuild it again, you've come this far after all.

Good luck in December man.
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Sorry to hear about the engine Sav, I have faith you'll rebuild it again, you've come this far after all.

Good luck in December man.
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Old 11-16-2009, 10:26 PM   #393
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Unfortunately the next Miata Challenge event at Calspeed is off our calendar at this point, but we'll be back in December at Buttonwillow to try and wrap up the Unlimited championship.
This guy is my hero. I wish I had that type of support
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Damn, sorry to hear about your bad luck Andrew.


Has anyone on here used those type of plugs before?

I spent some time searching for info on these plugs and it seems they are common on boating engines.

Bill, do you have any links to info/discussions of these plugs and practical applications for us? Would the typical COP setup be sufficient to fire them?

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I don't actually have any further info... I'll do some checking around tonight and see what I can find. I'd imagine a COP setup would be overkill for firing them if a 40yr old Lucas CD box will fire them at 10k rpm on a V8.
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Andrew, if you need any assistance assembling the engine again (assuming the bottom end comes apart) I'll be happy to give you a hand.

I'd also strongly push you towards a dry sump rather than an Accusump. I realize the startup cost is higher but it's a better solution. Call me to discuss it if you'd like.
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Sav, let's see a proper accusump kit from trackspeed and I'll buy one.
Not too hard to do, right? All you need is the normal oil cooler plumbing and then you tee the Accusump into that, and maybe add a check valve.
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think of it, has any LS1 Miata lapped faster than Spec Miata record yet ?
If I had an LS1 miata and ran over the SM lap record...I'd get out of the car and put a gun in my mouth.
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Old 11-17-2009, 12:53 AM   #398
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Andrew-

Good luck on the rebuild. I too was dealing with oil starvation issues. I tried to drive around it and simply didn't hammer the car but a couple laps in turn 2 the whole weekend. We ran with an additional half quart of oil and we seemed to be ok until oil temps got over 225. Not the best solution. When looking at solutions, have you thought of baffling the oil pan and fabbing a pick up that sits lower in the pan?

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yeah a decent sized oil cooler in addition to what you run might help as well, say 1/2 a quart. A drysump system would be baller but it seems damn hard to do.
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yeah a decent sized oil cooler in addition to what you run might help as well, say 1/2 a quart. A drysump system would be baller but it seems damn hard to do.
Biggest problem is cost of the components. If anyone would like a dry sump, I'd be glad to design a setup for you.
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