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Old 10-04-2012, 03:29 PM   #241
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pump gas?

sounds like a recipe for winning
no, e85.
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Well, e85 may actually mask this moron's tuning strategies and it may hold up for a while actually.
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Old 10-04-2012, 03:39 PM   #243
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E85 must be magic. I need to see what availability is like around here.
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E85 must be magic. I need to see what availability is like around here.
It is magic, a bolt on NB engine is looking at a 10-15 HP gain from it.
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E85 must be magic. I need to see what availability is like around here.
E85 is magic. Magic enough that a stock mazdaspeed turbo and motor can make enough power to make rods fail. Or so I've heard, not allowed to say numbers
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e10 is magic. the car drives the same everyday, makes pretty good mpg, and i dont need any special sensors/lines/pumps/inejctors to run it.

i also dont need to run in the upper limits of insanity to impress all my friends and pull out 5 more hp on a setup that's already pushing the limits.
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It is magic, a bolt on NB engine is looking at a 10-15 HP gain from it.
Show me these results please. I want to see them. Becuase yet again I think you're pulling this outa your ***.

Even bolt-on/cammed K series honda engines don't gain more than 5-7hp from e85, let alone a lowly BP.

With boost of course, totally different story. With boost, it really is magic.
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Show me these results please. I want to see them. Becuase yet again I think you're pulling this outa your ***.

Even bolt-on/cammed K series honda engines don't gain more than 5-7hp from e85, let alone a lowly BP.

With boost of course, totally different story.
Ask a national level csp driver.
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e10 is magic. the car drives the same everyday, makes pretty good mpg, and i dont need any special sensors/lines/pumps/inejctors to run it.
you jelly brah?

all of those statements are highly debateable:

-all my cars drive the same every day on e85.
-it is so much cheaper that even after the mpg difference the mile/$$ is the same or very close
-id550's are the same price as id1000's
-no other special stuff is required

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Ask a national level csp driver.
I'm asking you, because you're the one talking outa your ***.
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there's only even 1 pump near me, and iirc it's not public. and it's over 25 miles away and i dont care.

it is .50c a gallon cheaper however.
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Skyactiv E85 and we're in business. The cx5 will blow your doors off. Just you wait.
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I'm asking you, because you're the one talking outa your ***.
Whats the point. With race gas banned, guys went to e85 if they could and made more power on e then ms109. My sister car is going to be going to it. But I dont think I'll be tuning it until the spring.
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there's only even 1 pump near me, and iirc it's not public. and it's over 25 miles away and i dont care.

it is .50c a gallon cheaper however.
It is truly awesome stuffs I tell ya.

I picked ~50whp/60wtq on the FXT on the stuff. Identical setup and boost level
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My comment was meant to be slightly sarcastic. However, I would not run E85 because the only close pump is inside MacDill AFB which is obviously not public.
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Whats the point. With race gas banned, guys went to e85 if they could and made more power on e then ms109. My sister car is going to be going to it. But I dont think I'll be tuning it until the spring.
The point is you keep posting bullshit in every thread and have no experience with it.

I make a point of calling you on it because I think you're full of it.

I know its beneficial, I love the stuff, and I know its becoming popular faster than pusha got aids, I'm just saying a n/a NB with just bolt ons won't gain 10-15hp on top from e85.

It takes ultra high compression or boost for e85 to be beneficial

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CSP guys will do anything for 3 more HP.
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While the real advantage of e85 shows up in high compression conditions, there is extra power to be had on a relatively low compression engine as well with the use of a good stand alone. While it burns hotter, the burn rate of e85 is slower and allows for quite a bit more timing which can translate into identifiable increases on the dyno if you know your tuning.
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While the real advantage of e85 shows up in high compression conditions, there is extra power to be had on a relatively low compression engine as well with the use of a good stand alone. While it burns hotter, the burn rate of e85 is slower and allows for quite a bit more timing which can translate into identifiable increases on the dyno if you know your tuning.
This requires standalone, or the ability to tune the factory ecu. IE, beyond the scope of a FFS customers skill set
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While the real advantage of e85 shows up in high compression conditions, there is extra power to be had on a relatively low compression engine as well with the use of a good stand alone. While it burns hotter, the burn rate of e85 is slower and allows for quite a bit more timing which can translate into identifiable increases on the dyno if you know your tuning.
it burns cooler
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