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Old 12-14-2014, 04:32 AM   #321
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Looks like fun times. Need moar LS in my life.
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CSTG LS swap?
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Old 12-14-2014, 08:00 PM   #323
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How was the 944? Love that car.
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oh wow looks like this build is happening asap? very cool
I too need moar LS in my life
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Old 12-15-2014, 12:22 AM   #325
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944 apparently felt underpowered compared to Laz.

And yes, it's happening very ASAP.



VVT is basically torn down, need to rip the oil pan off, then tear down Laz's so two oil pans, one block, and the vvt valve cover can go to the machinists to get cleaned.
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Old 12-17-2014, 10:45 PM   #326
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Everyone, please welcome Martin to the world of turbo Miatas...



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Old 12-17-2014, 11:10 PM   #327
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WTF didn't this thing run just fine before you pulled it down?? I didn't remember hearing about any issues, thought you guys just wanted more power.
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Old 12-17-2014, 11:49 PM   #328
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yep, now I completely believe that dyno plot

And Ed, many if not most of the noodle rod'ed bp's run just fine for a long time.
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Old 12-18-2014, 12:33 AM   #329
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All of the torque. I'm so proud, wish I could have gone 4 for 4. Just wait till the motor is built and we actually make the tune slightly less conservative

Out of curiosity why does this make the dyno plot more believable? Mind you I drove the **** out if this car on the track
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Old 12-18-2014, 12:42 AM   #330
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All of the torque. I'm so proud, wish I could have gone 4 for 4. Just wait till the motor is built and we actually make the tune slightly less conservative

Out of curiosity why does this make the dyno plot more believable? Mind you I drove the **** out if this car on the track
Because the little msm baby turbo is even weaker than a t25, and you made about as much as I've ever seen made on one, and with almost no timing.
I wasn't calling bs, but it was really impressive and kinda hard to believe.

The one thing that you have over other msm's is you have really smooth fmic routing and a really free flowing exhaust, so maybe that's what helped, or just a really healthy msm setup, or both.
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Old 12-18-2014, 03:15 AM   #331
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I guess that makes sense, I think I'll be around 250whp if all goes well with the even better flowing exhaust and 2 more psi and a tune that actually has some timing in it.
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And results



Red is the new msm motor with turbo setup, blue is the old NA 1.6. Numbers are uncorrected to prevent forum drama.



Mods are as follows

stock msm long block/manifold/turbo

Protuning lab 2.5 inch catless downpipe

OEM MSM catback with muffler delete

OEM Evo 8 intercooler, piping, and BOV

MBC set at 12psi

Gen 1 PNP with curly tune



Needless to say I'm quite pleased with the results, I hope to do rods in the future and shoot for 250whp with a better exhaust and perhaps 2 more psi.
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Congrats/bummer on your bent rods. That said, it looks like that torque spike at midrange RPM is likely the primary contributor. Best of luck on rebuilding the engine and then flattening the torque curve for more longevity.
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Thank you, I think with the new motor and EBC we will have a smoother curve with more torque everywhere
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Old 12-18-2014, 01:13 PM   #335
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This thread: https://www.miataturbo.net/miata-par...spacers-81861/

They're all sold, but he needs to make more. They're absolutely gorgeous.
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Ouch. I missed that one. I guess I ignored it, thinking it was more info on the -10AN design and I was not interested in that one. If he doesn't do another run, I'm still on Schuyler's list for a more conventional style.
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Old 12-18-2014, 04:35 PM   #337
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I almost got one as well, but I FINALLY after so much blood and tear and different types of rtv managed to make my begi one seal I think.
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This thread: https://www.miataturbo.net/miata-par...spacers-81861/

They're all sold, but he needs to make more. They're absolutely gorgeous.
No problem having some more made, so long as there is demand.

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Old 12-19-2014, 10:06 AM   #339
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Martin any chance you are willing to part with one of those bent rods to go in my lamp?
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Shoot me a PM I'll hang onto the worst one but the others are up for grabs.
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